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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) gg2003 you want to be a mod?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) You have to go through your initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) Gg03 would be a terrif
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) what is the "initiation"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:10 PM

With Mark Sanchez locked in as the starting quarterback and Mark Brunell secure as the No. 2, the New York Jets don't have much use for Kellen Clemens.

So Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com reports that when the Jets gave Clemens ample playing time in the preseason opener, it wasn't about getting him reps with the Jets' receivers. It was about showcasing him for a trade.

The Jets tried to trade Clemens before the draft and couldn't find a team that wanted him, and they're still trying. Clemens understands that all he can be as long as he's with the Jets is a third-stringer.

"As far as I know, the No. 1 and 2 spots are pretty locked up," Clemens said.

And the trade talk is the latest sign that the No. 3 spot may go to Kevin O'Connell, and that the Jets' 2006 second-round pick is on the way out.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:29 PM

Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:48 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 11:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Although Mangini's coached him before, I doubt he'd take him again - remember Mangini was in on the decision to get Favre rather than start Clemens. Plus Cleveland's got a stable of QBs - however uninspiring it is - with Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy. The Panthers might be interested but then again they drafted two, with Clausen receiving a lot of hype and are reportedly high on Matt Moore.
We'd get a late round pick at best for him.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:50 PM

why would anyone trade for him when hes going to be cut in a few weeks anyway?
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 03:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Oakland is always possible, so is minn (they wanted him in the draft when we took him and they settled on jackson), he could compete in carolina as well
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:20 PM

why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:29 PM

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why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Makes more sense to keep O'Connel because his cap hit is smaller I'm sure.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:45 PM

Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='18 August 2010 - 09:45 PM' timestamp='1282193110' post='308185']
Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 03:11 AM

I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:18 AM

Exactly.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 12:10 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 02:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.
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I agree with you on this one Dubb! Shouldnt we have 3 QBs anyway?
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:02 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 04:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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If you don't think Clemens would need a scaled back offense, you're crazy.

Like most teams in the league, if our star QB goes down, we are fucked.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:13 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM' timestamp='1282193955' post='308187']
keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.

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I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1282256015' post='308224']
A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.



Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:27 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='19 August 2010 - 06:24 PM' timestamp='1282256647' post='308225']
Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

I don't think we'd be as bad off with Brunell as everyone seems to think. Of course the offense would need to be scaled back BUT we did just fine with old greybeard in there with a scaled down offense as well.

I think Clemens will just end up getting cut and we get nothing for him.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:01 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1282256647' post='308225']
Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:03 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1282266108' post='308229']
Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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maybe they do want him for this season, but figure if they can get a decent pick they'd be willing to part with him?
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 07:47 AM

Ummm... OUR TEAM WENT TO A COLOR CODED SYSTEM BECAUSE SANCHEZ COULDN'T READ DEFENSES FOR SHIT!!!! We only started winning once Schotty cut the field in half and Rex screamed "Green... RED!! RED!!!" before every snap. OUR OFFENSE IS SCALED BACK!!!!
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