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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:10 PM

With Mark Sanchez locked in as the starting quarterback and Mark Brunell secure as the No. 2, the New York Jets don't have much use for Kellen Clemens.

So Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com reports that when the Jets gave Clemens ample playing time in the preseason opener, it wasn't about getting him reps with the Jets' receivers. It was about showcasing him for a trade.

The Jets tried to trade Clemens before the draft and couldn't find a team that wanted him, and they're still trying. Clemens understands that all he can be as long as he's with the Jets is a third-stringer.

"As far as I know, the No. 1 and 2 spots are pretty locked up," Clemens said.

And the trade talk is the latest sign that the No. 3 spot may go to Kevin O'Connell, and that the Jets' 2006 second-round pick is on the way out.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:29 PM

Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:48 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 11:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Although Mangini's coached him before, I doubt he'd take him again - remember Mangini was in on the decision to get Favre rather than start Clemens. Plus Cleveland's got a stable of QBs - however uninspiring it is - with Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy. The Panthers might be interested but then again they drafted two, with Clausen receiving a lot of hype and are reportedly high on Matt Moore.
We'd get a late round pick at best for him.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:50 PM

why would anyone trade for him when hes going to be cut in a few weeks anyway?
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 03:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Oakland is always possible, so is minn (they wanted him in the draft when we took him and they settled on jackson), he could compete in carolina as well
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:20 PM

why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:29 PM

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why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Makes more sense to keep O'Connel because his cap hit is smaller I'm sure.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:45 PM

Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='18 August 2010 - 09:45 PM' timestamp='1282193110' post='308185']
Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 03:11 AM

I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:18 AM

Exactly.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 12:10 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 02:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.
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I agree with you on this one Dubb! Shouldnt we have 3 QBs anyway?
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:02 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 04:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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If you don't think Clemens would need a scaled back offense, you're crazy.

Like most teams in the league, if our star QB goes down, we are fucked.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:13 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM' timestamp='1282193955' post='308187']
keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.

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I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1282256015' post='308224']
A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.



Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:27 PM

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Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

I don't think we'd be as bad off with Brunell as everyone seems to think. Of course the offense would need to be scaled back BUT we did just fine with old greybeard in there with a scaled down offense as well.

I think Clemens will just end up getting cut and we get nothing for him.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:01 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1282256647' post='308225']
Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:03 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1282266108' post='308229']
Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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maybe they do want him for this season, but figure if they can get a decent pick they'd be willing to part with him?
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 07:47 AM

Ummm... OUR TEAM WENT TO A COLOR CODED SYSTEM BECAUSE SANCHEZ COULDN'T READ DEFENSES FOR SHIT!!!! We only started winning once Schotty cut the field in half and Rex screamed "Green... RED!! RED!!!" before every snap. OUR OFFENSE IS SCALED BACK!!!!
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