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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:10 PM

With Mark Sanchez locked in as the starting quarterback and Mark Brunell secure as the No. 2, the New York Jets don't have much use for Kellen Clemens.

So Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com reports that when the Jets gave Clemens ample playing time in the preseason opener, it wasn't about getting him reps with the Jets' receivers. It was about showcasing him for a trade.

The Jets tried to trade Clemens before the draft and couldn't find a team that wanted him, and they're still trying. Clemens understands that all he can be as long as he's with the Jets is a third-stringer.

"As far as I know, the No. 1 and 2 spots are pretty locked up," Clemens said.

And the trade talk is the latest sign that the No. 3 spot may go to Kevin O'Connell, and that the Jets' 2006 second-round pick is on the way out.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:29 PM

Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:48 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 11:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Although Mangini's coached him before, I doubt he'd take him again - remember Mangini was in on the decision to get Favre rather than start Clemens. Plus Cleveland's got a stable of QBs - however uninspiring it is - with Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy. The Panthers might be interested but then again they drafted two, with Clausen receiving a lot of hype and are reportedly high on Matt Moore.
We'd get a late round pick at best for him.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:50 PM

why would anyone trade for him when hes going to be cut in a few weeks anyway?
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 03:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Oakland is always possible, so is minn (they wanted him in the draft when we took him and they settled on jackson), he could compete in carolina as well
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:20 PM

why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:29 PM

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why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Makes more sense to keep O'Connel because his cap hit is smaller I'm sure.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:45 PM

Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='18 August 2010 - 09:45 PM' timestamp='1282193110' post='308185']
Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 03:11 AM

I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:18 AM

Exactly.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 12:10 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 02:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.
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I agree with you on this one Dubb! Shouldnt we have 3 QBs anyway?
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:02 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 04:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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If you don't think Clemens would need a scaled back offense, you're crazy.

Like most teams in the league, if our star QB goes down, we are fucked.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:13 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM' timestamp='1282193955' post='308187']
keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.

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I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1282256015' post='308224']
A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.



Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:27 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='19 August 2010 - 06:24 PM' timestamp='1282256647' post='308225']
Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

I don't think we'd be as bad off with Brunell as everyone seems to think. Of course the offense would need to be scaled back BUT we did just fine with old greybeard in there with a scaled down offense as well.

I think Clemens will just end up getting cut and we get nothing for him.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:01 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1282256647' post='308225']
Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:03 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1282266108' post='308229']
Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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maybe they do want him for this season, but figure if they can get a decent pick they'd be willing to part with him?
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 07:47 AM

Ummm... OUR TEAM WENT TO A COLOR CODED SYSTEM BECAUSE SANCHEZ COULDN'T READ DEFENSES FOR SHIT!!!! We only started winning once Schotty cut the field in half and Rex screamed "Green... RED!! RED!!!" before every snap. OUR OFFENSE IS SCALED BACK!!!!
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