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ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) If someone calls me an idiot or moron or stupid over a football debate it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But when you make things personal like with racist things or family crap its a whole different level
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) I felt my FLiHi remark was as "harmless" as you did calling another person a Moron and stupid because they didn't agree with your opinion
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:38 PM) my friends and I call each other morons and stupid an laugh at each other when we do something stupid like when we are drinking. It means nothing. and we laugh about it because its harmless. I'm trying to tell you this is a big difference between what you say to people and what others do.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:40 PM) Heck 115 rags me a lot and it doesnt bother me in the least. i rag him too. Same with GG2003 and SHJ. There is a difference between friendly banter and disagreements and crossing the line
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:44 PM) So your opinion of the line is right and my opinion is wrong? Is that what your saying? I don't know you. I'm not a drinking buddy of yours. Maybe you should learn some social tact.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) you felt it was harmless but you were the only one. Everyone else understood why I got was extremely offended about it the first time because you cross the line with what you say to people. Apparently you realized it enough to send me a long pm apologizing and having communication problems that get you in trouble sometimes. But now you cant understand the difference?
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:48 PM) I understand why. What I'm saying is if you take a jab people will jab back. Have you heard that saying " dont throw rocks when you live in a glass house?"
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:49 PM) The way you understand things if I call you an idiot about not wanting to trade for a high end qb its no different from me disrespecting your family. Thats what Im getting from you. So the way you see things everything is equally personal
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:50 PM) From complete strangers on an Internet forum? Yes. Man up
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM) Nod the debate was if he is a "high end" player. I thought he was well above average but not worth a 6th overall pick
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:55 PM) Not worth my time to even acknowledge anymore. Just going to ignore you like I do Mr. Jet. You have a lot of mental growing up to do.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) That's funny coming from a guy who went butt f*** crazy a couple hours ago
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) Meanwhile you can't seem to respect that others opinions are different than yours
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:59 PM) You are emotionally weak. You went through some serious shit growing up and you can't adjust. You take it out on your keyboard.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) When someone challenges your immaturity you have a complete crazy freak out and act like a girl on her first period
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) Hence the "go wipe your pussy and man up comment
Mr_Jet Icon : (15 April 2015 - 10:16 PM) Please Rob, leave my name out of your little bitchfest.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 11:46 PM) My bad. You have been respecting my request to you I had a while backI made to you by us not commenting to each other to keep peace between us. I was totally in the wrong for bringing your name up at all and into an argument with member that has issues. I got furious furious with a child. I should've just ignored him like I do the other immature kids on some game forums and sites I belong to. Wont happen again. My apologies for bringing your name into it Mr. Jet.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:04 AM) Dude.... Get back on your meds.
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:47 AM) WTF? Really???
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:48 AM) Now back to our regular scheduled program......
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Lol that escalated quickly
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:24 AM) Rex is chirping again.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) He said he is going to try and kick the Shit out of the Jets
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) http://sports.yahoo....l8xBHNlYwNzcg--
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I still like the guy. He's entertaining
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:25 PM) i miss rex. love his demeanor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:26 PM) i'd be happy if he kicks the shit out of miami and NE every year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I'm excited for the new coaching staff
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) Rex wsa fun, but he was too much with the defense instead of the entire football team
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:57 PM) also he didn't always hold players accountable. I think Bowles will make the team more disciplined.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:50 AM) I don't have any faith in bowles
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) “San Diego Chargers will ultimately make a deal with the Tennessee Titans for the number two overall pick. As part of that trade, the Chargers will send the number 17 overall pick and Philip Rivers, just as a start, for the number two pick.”
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) Damn... Who called it? This guy.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 AM) http://national.sunt...s-mariota-trade
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) So we would now lose out on maroita and rivers
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) Ain't that super
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:39 PM) do we make a trade for AP?
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:41 PM) I believe the rivers stuff is all speculation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) So a top ten qb and the 17th pick for the 2nd overall as a start? Makes sense
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) So Many smokescreens this time of year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:08 PM) only 2 more weeks before we find out. draft day will be exciting
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:09 PM) my money is we'll take a pass rushing OLB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) Yup, unless they trade up.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:10 PM

With Mark Sanchez locked in as the starting quarterback and Mark Brunell secure as the No. 2, the New York Jets don't have much use for Kellen Clemens.

So Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com reports that when the Jets gave Clemens ample playing time in the preseason opener, it wasn't about getting him reps with the Jets' receivers. It was about showcasing him for a trade.

The Jets tried to trade Clemens before the draft and couldn't find a team that wanted him, and they're still trying. Clemens understands that all he can be as long as he's with the Jets is a third-stringer.

"As far as I know, the No. 1 and 2 spots are pretty locked up," Clemens said.

And the trade talk is the latest sign that the No. 3 spot may go to Kevin O'Connell, and that the Jets' 2006 second-round pick is on the way out.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:29 PM

Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:48 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 11:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Although Mangini's coached him before, I doubt he'd take him again - remember Mangini was in on the decision to get Favre rather than start Clemens. Plus Cleveland's got a stable of QBs - however uninspiring it is - with Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy. The Panthers might be interested but then again they drafted two, with Clausen receiving a lot of hype and are reportedly high on Matt Moore.
We'd get a late round pick at best for him.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:50 PM

why would anyone trade for him when hes going to be cut in a few weeks anyway?
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

[quote name='theanalogkid' date='18 August 2010 - 03:29 PM' timestamp='1282170552' post='308159']
Why would any team want him.

Only teams I could see taking him are Cleveland or Carolina. I doubt Mike Holmgreen would trade for him though.
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Oakland is always possible, so is minn (they wanted him in the draft when we took him and they settled on jackson), he could compete in carolina as well
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:20 PM

why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 10:29 PM

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why keep O'Donnell he didn't impress anybody either.
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Makes more sense to keep O'Connel because his cap hit is smaller I'm sure.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:45 PM

Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='18 August 2010 - 09:45 PM' timestamp='1282193110' post='308185']
Very few teams in the league have room on their roster for someone who is one of the worst backups in the league, or at least one of the poorer. Panthers and Browns both have iffy overall lineups, but Wallace is a better sub than people think and was in Seattle with Holmgren and Moore played well last year and the Panthers drafted two QBs that played well for rookies in that first preseason game. The Vikings have Favre and two decent backups. Jason Campell is miles better than Clemens and Gradkowski played better last season than Clemens ever has.

What teams might be so desperate? I can't think of any team whose starter isn't clearly better and honestly, most teams have better seconds. Curtis Painter might be worse, but maybe not.
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keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 03:11 AM

I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:18 AM

Exactly.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 12:10 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 02:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.
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I agree with you on this one Dubb! Shouldnt we have 3 QBs anyway?
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:02 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 04:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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If you don't think Clemens would need a scaled back offense, you're crazy.

Like most teams in the league, if our star QB goes down, we are fucked.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:13 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='18 August 2010 - 11:59 PM' timestamp='1282193955' post='308187']
keep in mind the lions grabbed o'connell and we gave up a 7th rounder for him. somebody will give something for clemens, even if its a 7th
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A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='19 August 2010 - 03:11 AM' timestamp='1282205501' post='308191']
I still can't figure out why they would trade him. I hope to God that Mark stays healthy because Brunell knows nadda right now. Clemens can come in and keep the offense "a float" at least. Brunell will need the offense scaled back. Man, I just don't like this right now. I don't mind having him on the team to mentor Sanchez but Jesus Christ. I know where f*cked either way if Mark goes down but we are MORE f*cked with Brunell is there.

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Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 03:13 PM' timestamp='1282256015' post='308224']
A seventh is as good as a undrafted FA signing. I'd take it, but there isn't any reason to cling ot the hope of getting one. If they don't want him, they should just cut him rather than hold out for nothing.



Brunell has been in the league for years and played all over in different offenses. I'd be more comfortable with an pass-his-prime vet than with a never was who knows our offense "inside and out."
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Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:27 PM

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Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:52 PM

I don't think we'd be as bad off with Brunell as everyone seems to think. Of course the offense would need to be scaled back BUT we did just fine with old greybeard in there with a scaled down offense as well.

I think Clemens will just end up getting cut and we get nothing for him.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:01 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='19 August 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1282256647' post='308225']
Colston was a 7th rounder, as was stucky, you can find a decent player in the 7th
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[quote name='Jetsman05' date='19 August 2010 - 05:27 PM' timestamp='1282256853' post='308226']
Bart Scott and James Harrison were UDFA.

You can also find them undrafted as well.
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Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:03 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='19 August 2010 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1282266108' post='308229']
Exactly, it isn't like it is worth sitting on a guy we don't want in the hopes we can dredge out the possibility of a player. Either the team wants Clemens around or they don't, or they think they can get at least a fifth out of him. You don't hold on to guys in the hopes you can draft Mr. Irrelevant.
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maybe they do want him for this season, but figure if they can get a decent pick they'd be willing to part with him?
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 07:47 AM

Ummm... OUR TEAM WENT TO A COLOR CODED SYSTEM BECAUSE SANCHEZ COULDN'T READ DEFENSES FOR SHIT!!!! We only started winning once Schotty cut the field in half and Rex screamed "Green... RED!! RED!!!" before every snap. OUR OFFENSE IS SCALED BACK!!!!
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