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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 21 August 2010 - 12:16 PM

CHARLOTTE -- Pre-game thoughts on Saturday night’s pre-season game, New York Jets at Carolina Panthers:

1. Rex Ryan says he wants to see better play from his backups. I say, “Relax, coach.” There are 29 or 30 other teams looking for better play from their starters.

2. Mark Sanchez responded nicely last week after that early interception, receiving plenty of pats on the back, but let’s not ignore that mistake. It was straight out of last season, as he forced a ball into double coverage and cost his team seven points. Sanchez will play only a quarter against the Panthers; let’s see if he can avoid any killer mistakes.

3. Speaking of Sanchez, that scene in “Hard Knocks” – ignoring QB coach Matt Cavanaugh as he unpacks his knapsack – doesn’t help his image. He comes across as pouty, and it was uncomfortable to watch. You half expected him to cover his ears and start repeating, “Na, na, na, na!” Let's give him a break and say he was having a bad day.

4. This will be a key outing for QB Mark Brunell, who was handed the No. 2 job after a competition that was over before it began. That tells us what the coaching staff thinks of Kellen Clemens, who, by the way, played well last week. If Brunell has a bad game, how can the Jets consider trading Clemens?

5. Too bad Panthers WR Steve Smith, coming back from a broken arm, is unlikely to play. I’d like to see rookie CB Kyle Wilson in man-to-man on Smith, one of the best in the business. Wilson was targeted only twice by the New York Giants, allowing a short completion. It’s not much to go on.

6. The Jets-Darrelle Revis staredown is starting to reach the, “Who’s going to blink?” stage. Unless he reports by Tuesday, there’s little chance he will play against the Washington Redskins next Friday – the most important pre-season game because the starters play about three quarters. The final game is a glorified walk-through, at Philadelphia, hardly the ideal tune up. In other words, the preseason is going ... going ... almost gone.

7. Subsplot to the Revis negotiations: Revis’ uncle and confidante, former NFL defensive lineman Sean Gilbert, lives in the Charlotte area. Hmmm.

8. Young players I’ll be watching: Wilson, RB Joe McKnight, FB John Conner, LG Matt Slauson and LG Vladimir Ducasse.

9. Older players I’ll be watching: Brunell, WR Laveranues Coles, DE Vernon Gholston, OLB Jason Taylor, PK Nick Folk and S Brodney Pool.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:21 PM


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August, 22, 2010 Aug 22 2:13 AM ET [list][*][url="http://sendtofriend.espn.go.com/sendtofriend/SendToFriend?URL=/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/1289/final-thoughts-on-jets-9-panthers-3&title=Final%20thoughts%20on%20Jets%209,%20Panthers%203"]Email[/url][*][url="http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/print?id=1289"]Print[/url][*][url="http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yorkjets/post/_/id/1289/final-thoughts-on-jets-9-panthers-3?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#comments"]Comments[/url][/list] By Rich Cimini Thoughts and observations on an ugly pre-season game:

[b]Really bad offense.[/b] Yeah, it was dreadful, but this is no time to panic. It was a short week and the Jets did very little in the way of game planning for the Carolina Panthers -- at least that was the buzz in the locker room. So we'll give them the benefit of the doubt, for now. One more stinker, though, and we will have an issue.

[b]Sanchez growing pains.[/b] [b]Mark Sanchez[/b] almost threw an interception on the Jets' first possession; that would've been two weeks in a row. That is troubling. Sanchez was out of sync. His ball placement on screen passes was off the mark, and he admitted he should've done a better job of unloading the ball instead of taking those two sacks. This was a step back, but don't put too much emphasis on one bad pre-season performance.

[b]Opportunistic special teams[/b]. A week ago, the Jets blocked a punt. This week, the special teams produced three takeaways, almost unheard of. Were they great plays by the Jets' coverage units or lousy jobs by the Panthers' return specialists? Probably more of the latter, but the Jets can be confident in knowing their special teams have big-play potential.

[b]In the Nick of Time.[/b] PK [b]Nick Folk[/b] all but locked up the kicking job, making field goals of 43, 36 and 49 yards. He was 3-for-3. Folk is proving that last season's train wreck with the Dallas Cowboys was injury-related (a surgically repaired hip) and not due to an erosion of his Pro Bowl skills.

[b]Can't blame the defense[/b]. Ryan praised his defense, especially his backups -- the same group that got roughed up last week against the New York Giants. Two of last week's goats, [b]Dwight Lowery[/b] and [b]Drew Coleman[/b], came back with strong performances. Lowery made two pass break-ups and Coleman made the game-saving interceptions. Ryan said he challenged the No. 2 group. Consider the challenge met.

[b]VG is OK.[/b] Strange, but true: [b]Vernon Gholson[/b] posted a team-high five tackles, including two behind the line of scrimmage. Give him credit; he was aggressive at the point of attack, shed his blocks well and made a couple of hustle plays. They will need Gholston to contribute on the D-line now that [b]Ropati Pitoitua[/b] (Achilles' tendon) is out for the season.

[b]Praise for Washington.[/b] Even though he lost a fumble inside the Panthers' 10, RB [b]Chauncey Washington[/b] (eight carries for 19 yards) received praise from Ryan. Washington, resembling a poor man's [b]Shonn Greene[/b] on a couple of runs, showed power and some burst. He's a bubble player who now has to be considered a legitimate candidate.

[b]Busy leg[/b]. P [b]Steve Weatherford[/b] may need a couple of days off. He punted 11 times for 481 yards. The Panthers punted nine times for 458 yards. More than 900 yards in punting. Oh, brother.

[b]Crown the left guard[/b]. Let's face it, the so-called battle between [b]Matt Slauson[/b] and rookie [b]Vladimir Ducasse[/b] is over. For the second straight game, Slauson took all the first-team reps. Ducasse is struggling at left guard, a new position. Slauson got beat once on a pass rush, according to Ryan, but the job belongs to him.

[b]A backup QB controversy?[/b] [b]Mark Brunell's[/b] numbers after two games -- 4-for-10, 16 yards. Face it, [b]Kellen Clemens[/b] has outplayed Brunell, but Ryan appears set on Brunell as his No. 2 QB. Does that make you feel safe and protected? Didn't think so.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:31 PM

sanchez is only 23 so expect him to act 23 at times. and brunell well get some game time next week say 3rd qtr with starters vs the skins and let see if he can remain the #2 otherwise it should fall to #11.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:44 PM

I don't know why Marc is getting questioned about taking the sacks. I'd rather him take the sack than just throw it up trying to get rid of it and risk a turnover. 11 punts? That's not very confidence building but it's still the preseason. Let's see how week 3 goes.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:59 PM

not to worry the Oline didn't give much effort and i think they went through the motions .
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:15 PM

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I don't know why Marc is getting questioned about taking the sacks. I'd rather him take the sack than just throw it up trying to get rid of it and risk a turnover. 11 punts? That's not very confidence building but it's still the preseason. Let's see how week 3 goes.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:29 PM

Okay. You got me. I mis-spelled his name.....lol
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