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SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 10:17 AM

1. Let's start with Dallas linebacker Keith Brooking.

According to a recent radio interview Brooking says he's not a "big fan of all that chatter" coming from Rex. Why? Because, Brooking says, Rex and the Jets haven't really accomplished all that much.

I guess taking a team to the AFC title game with a rookie quarterback and building the No. 1 defense in the NFL and winning a Super Bowl in 2000 with the Ravens and being the D-line coach for one of the game's most dominant defenses ever doesn't qualify in Brooking's mind as big enough accomplishments. [b]Brooking, who finished tied for 108th in sacks and 41st in solo tackles last season, said he's "more of a show-me guy."[/b]

Right. Got it. This coming from the guy who, while playing for the Cowboys last season -- a team that hadn't won a playoff game in 13 years -- would work himself into a spastic, bug-eyed, incoherent lather before kickoff while shouting stuff like "We're gonna hit 'em in the mouth! We're gonna bloody their nose! We're gonna knock 'em to the ground!"

I haven't heard this kind of hypocrisy since Bama coach Nick Saban called player agents "pimps." Both Brooking and Ryan talk a lot of junk. Nothing wrong with that. But, it seems to me, only one of them backs it up.

2. How can you hate a guy who loves M&M's Pretzels so much?

Have you tried them?

3. I'll take a loud mouth over a phony any day.

One big reason longtime coordinators who become head coaches tend to fail at such a high rate in the NFL is that when they finally get promoted they change who they are to fit some silly antiquated ideal of what they think a head coach should be. (See also: Eric Mangini.) And[b] there is nothing players tune out quicker in the NFL than a guy they perceive as a phony[/b]. I spent a lot of time with Rex when he was the defensive coordinator in Baltimore and most of the time I went into his office two things happened: I learned something new about football and I laughed so hard my gum would fall out of my mouth. He hasn't changed a bit. That's a lot harder to do than most people think.

4. He's more than paid his dues.

Eastern Kentucky? New Mexico Highlands? (I thought that was a casino at first.) Morehead State? Cincinnati? Rex had done an amazing job as the D-line coach with the Ravens for several seasons, yet when former defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis left to take the Bengals' head coaching job Ryan was passed over for Mike Nolan, the Ravens' receivers coach. After that Rex lost weight, cut his hair and whitened his teeth and still got passed over for the head job in Baltimore, Miami and Atlanta before landing in New York.

5. He had me at 'shirt fine.'

Rex fines members of the Jets who get caught working out without a shirt. This annoying trend has long been a pet peeve of mine and, even though we probably won't be able to make it a law, I applaud Rex for doing his part to rid his small part of the world of the preening, spray-on-ab K-Fed posers of the world. Now, if only he could do something about the doughy weekend warrior bicyclers -- pssst: you're going 6 mph down a side street next to a Quiznos and a Build-A-Bear workshop, plus it's not the Tour de France! -- who dress from head-to-toe in faux sponsorship spandex.

6. You think your dad casts a long shadow?

What's the saying? All sons are either trying to make up for, or live up to, their father's legacy. Try being a defensive coach in the NFL following in Buddy Ryan's footsteps. With the 46 scheme, the guy basically reinvented defensive football with the Super Bowl champion Bears in 1985-86. Not too terribly far behind on the list of best, nastiest defenses in NFL history is Baltimore's from 2000, a unit, anchored by Rex's D-line, that set the NFL record for fewest points allowed in a season. And while Buddy never managed to win a playoff game as a head coach in Arizona or Philly, Rex leap-frogged the old man after one season in New York.

7. Rex can laugh at himself.

My favorite part of the HBO series "Hard Knocks" so far was when Rex giggled his way through the caption contest for a photo of him launching his girth all of six inches off the ground to do a chest bump at practice. I spend most of my time covering a league that fines people for wearing the wrong socks, so you can understand why I appreciate a coach who doesn't take himself too seriously.

8. When it comes to profanity, face it, Rex has a gift.

Some people use paint. Or words. Others use marble. Rex is the Picasso of profanity. Like the wedding singer in "Old School" or my buddy who is so smooth with the phrase he once dropped it into his request for more stuffing during Thanksgiving dinner, Rex is a maestro of the f-bomb. That kind of genius should be nurtured, not censored. Besides, on a serious note,[b] I love how the NFL owes a good deal of its popularity and earnings to the way it caters to our society's insatiable cravings for uber violence, meanwhile everyone's up in arms over a few potty words.[/b]

9. He has an excellent, well-developed, selective memory.

We've all heard the swear words, but you know the one thing I haven't heard Rex say? That the only reason the Jets even made it into the playoffs last year was that both the Colts (on purpose) and the Bengals (not on purpose) tanked big time down the stretch.

10. He listens to his mom -- sort of -- and not Tony Dungy.

After dropping more f-bombs in episode one of "Hard Knocks" than in the first 20 minutes of "Hot Tub Time Machine" (rent it now, you'll thank me later), Ryan got called out by both Dungy and his mom. His response to Dungy overstepping his moral bounds was spot on: don't judge me. [b]But I especially loved the fact that Ryan interpreted the advice from his mom as meaning he should exchange his rampant use of the f-bomb with the even more disturbing (and awesome) phrase "nuts dropped."[/b]

11. In the end, all the players -- or anyone else -- should really care about is that he's an amazing coach and teacher.

It's safe to say that, in a whole different manner, Bill Belichick severely rubs people the wrong way, too. You know why people put up with his occasionally draconian personality? Same reason they used to put up with Bill Parcells' bullying and Paul Brown's strict rules. Because, in the end, players care about only one thing: Can you, as a coach, put me in the best possible position to succeed and achieve? And no one's better at that right now than Belichick and Rex.

12. 2007

After earning Assistant Coach of the Year honors the season before, Rex's defense in Baltimore lost several Pro Bowl players to injury but still ranked second in the NFL against the rush (2.8 yards per carry allowed) while becoming the only team in the league to not allow a 100-yard rusher the entire season.

Rex's performance that year leaves me with two final thoughts:

1. [b]The only person in the NFL who got more done in 2007 was Antonio Cromartie.[/b]

2. Thanks to Rex, the Jets might just be capable of moving on without Darrelle Revis. If the Jets can pull that off, a lot of folks are gonna owe Ryan a big 'ole apology.

Starting with Keith Brooking.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 11:10 AM

Are you going to follow up with Dungy's visit to the Home of the Jets . most people can only say what have you won ? or the season hasn't started . guess what the head game has started already and forcing Teams & players to see what all the talk is about which is right were Rex wants them .Rex wants to Be King of the Hill .
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:54 PM

[quote]

[size="5"]12 things: Defending Rex Ryan[/size]
Time for the world to respect and embrace the Jets' embattled head coach

By David Fleming
ESPN The Magazine

[img]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0820/insider_a_rryan_sy_576.jpg[/img]

Every Friday through the Super Bowl, David Fleming will check in with 12 things about the NFL. This week, he shares his responses to all the ill will generated toward outspoken Jets coach Rex Ryan.

[b]1. Let's start with Dallas linebacker Keith Brooking.[/b]

According to a recent radio interview Brooking says he's not a "big fan of all that chatter" coming from Rex. Why? Because, Brooking says, Rex and the Jets haven't really accomplished all that much.

I guess taking a team to the AFC title game with a rookie quarterback and building the No. 1 defense in the NFL and winning a Super Bowl in 2000 with the Ravens and being the D-line coach for one of the game's most dominant defenses ever doesn't qualify in Brooking's mind as big enough accomplishments. Brooking, who finished tied for 108th in sacks and 41st in solo tackles last season, said he's "more of a show-me guy."

Right. Got it. This coming from the guy who, while playing for the Cowboys last season -- a team that hadn't won a playoff game in 13 years -- would work himself into a spastic, bug-eyed, incoherent lather before kickoff while shouting stuff like "We're gonna hit 'em in the mouth! We're gonna bloody their nose! We're gonna knock 'em to the ground!"

I haven't heard this kind of hypocrisy since Bama coach Nick Saban called player agents "pimps." Both Brooking and Ryan talk a lot of junk. Nothing wrong with that. But, it seems to me, only one of them backs it up.

[b]2. How can you hate a guy who loves M&M's Pretzels so much?[/b]

Have you tried them?

[b]3. I'll take a loud mouth over a phony any day.[/b]

One big reason longtime coordinators who become head coaches tend to fail at such a high rate in the NFL is that when they finally get promoted they change who they are to fit some silly antiquated ideal of what they think a head coach should be. (See also: Eric Mangini.) And there is nothing players tune out quicker in the NFL than a guy they perceive as a phony. I spent a lot of time with Rex when he was the defensive coordinator in Baltimore and most of the time I went into his office two things happened: I learned something new about football and I laughed so hard my gum would fall out of my mouth. He hasn't changed a bit. That's a lot harder to do than most people think.

[b]4. He's more than paid his dues.[/b]

Eastern Kentucky? New Mexico Highlands? (I thought that was a casino at first.) Morehead State? Cincinnati? Rex had done an amazing job as the D-line coach with the Ravens for several seasons, yet when former defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis left to take the Bengals' head coaching job Ryan was passed over for Mike Nolan, the Ravens' receivers coach. After that Rex lost weight, cut his hair and whitened his teeth and still got passed over for the head job in Baltimore, Miami and Atlanta before landing in New York.

[b]5. He had me at 'shirt fine.'[/b]

Rex fines members of the Jets who get caught working out without a shirt. This annoying trend has long been a pet peeve of mine and, even though we probably won't be able to make it a law, I applaud Rex for doing his part to rid his small part of the world of the preening, spray-on-ab K-Fed posers of the world. Now, if only he could do something about the doughy weekend warrior bicyclers -- pssst: you're going 6 mph down a side street next to a Quiznos and a Build-A-Bear workshop, plus it's not the Tour de France! -- who dress from head-to-toe in faux sponsorship spandex.

[b]6. You think your dad casts a long shadow?[/b]

What's the saying? All sons are either trying to make up for, or live up to, their father's legacy. Try being a defensive coach in the NFL following in Buddy Ryan's footsteps. With the 46 scheme, the guy basically reinvented defensive football with the Super Bowl champion Bears in 1985-86. Not too terribly far behind on the list of best, nastiest defenses in NFL history is Baltimore's from 2000, a unit, anchored by Rex's D-line, that set the NFL record for fewest points allowed in a season. And while Buddy never managed to win a playoff game as a head coach in Arizona or Philly, Rex leap-frogged the old man after one season in New York.
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7. Rex can laugh at himself.[/b]

My favorite part of the HBO series "Hard Knocks" so far was when Rex giggled his way through the caption contest for a photo of him launching his girth all of six inches off the ground to do a chest bump at practice. I spend most of my time covering a league that fines people for wearing the wrong socks, so you can understand why I appreciate a coach who doesn't take himself too seriously.

Buddy Ryan
Ronald C. Modra/Sports Imagery/Getty ImagesFollowing the legacy of Buddy Ryan is no easy feat.

[b]8. When it comes to profanity, face it, Rex has a gift.
[/b]
Some people use paint. Or words. Others use marble. Rex is the Picasso of profanity. Like the wedding singer in "Old School" or my buddy who is so smooth with the phrase he once dropped it into his request for more stuffing during Thanksgiving dinner, Rex is a maestro of the f-bomb. That kind of genius should be nurtured, not censored. Besides, on a serious note, I love how the NFL owes a good deal of its popularity and earnings to the way it caters to our society's insatiable cravings for uber violence, meanwhile everyone's up in arms over a few potty words.
[b]
9. He has an excellent, well-developed, selective memory.
[/b]
We've all heard the swear words, but you know the one thing I haven't heard Rex say? That the only reason the Jets even made it into the playoffs last year was that both the Colts (on purpose) and the Bengals (not on purpose) tanked big time down the stretch.
[b]
10. He listens to his mom -- sort of -- and not Tony Dungy.[/b]

After dropping more f-bombs in episode one of "Hard Knocks" than in the first 20 minutes of "Hot Tub Time Machine" (rent it now, you'll thank me later), Ryan got called out by both Dungy and his mom. His response to Dungy overstepping his moral bounds was spot on: don't judge me. But I especially loved the fact that Ryan interpreted the advice from his mom as meaning he should exchange his rampant use of the f-bomb with the even more disturbing (and awesome) phrase "nuts dropped."

[b]11. In the end, all the players -- or anyone else -- should really care about is that he's an amazing coach and teacher.[/b]

It's safe to say that, in a whole different manner, Bill Belichick severely rubs people the wrong way, too. You know why people put up with his occasionally draconian personality? Same reason they used to put up with Bill Parcells' bullying and Paul Brown's strict rules. Because, in the end, players care about only one thing: Can you, as a coach, put me in the best possible position to succeed and achieve? And no one's better at that right now than Belichick and Rex.

[b]12. 2007[/b]

After earning Assistant Coach of the Year honors the season before, Rex's defense in Baltimore lost several Pro Bowl players to injury but still ranked second in the NFL against the rush (2.8 yards per carry allowed) while becoming the only team in the league to not allow a 100-yard rusher the entire season.

Rex's performance that year leaves me with two final thoughts:

1. The only person in the NFL who got more done in 2007 was Antonio Cromartie.

2. Thanks to Rex, the Jets might just be capable of moving on without Darrelle Revis. If the Jets can pull that off, a lot of folks are gonna owe Ryan a big 'ole apology.

Starting with Keith Brooking.[/quote]

"I'm glad that the Gillette field was soft and messy
since I spent so much time down on it."-Tom Brady


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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:07 PM

Cracking article topped off by that line about Cromartie at the end. Good fiind Leon and thanks for posting it.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:10 PM

ahhh...guess this was already posted. if one of the mods want to scrap it...please go ahead and do so.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:38 PM

Rex is BOSS. That is all.

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