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Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 10:17 AM

1. Let's start with Dallas linebacker Keith Brooking.

According to a recent radio interview Brooking says he's not a "big fan of all that chatter" coming from Rex. Why? Because, Brooking says, Rex and the Jets haven't really accomplished all that much.

I guess taking a team to the AFC title game with a rookie quarterback and building the No. 1 defense in the NFL and winning a Super Bowl in 2000 with the Ravens and being the D-line coach for one of the game's most dominant defenses ever doesn't qualify in Brooking's mind as big enough accomplishments. [b]Brooking, who finished tied for 108th in sacks and 41st in solo tackles last season, said he's "more of a show-me guy."[/b]

Right. Got it. This coming from the guy who, while playing for the Cowboys last season -- a team that hadn't won a playoff game in 13 years -- would work himself into a spastic, bug-eyed, incoherent lather before kickoff while shouting stuff like "We're gonna hit 'em in the mouth! We're gonna bloody their nose! We're gonna knock 'em to the ground!"

I haven't heard this kind of hypocrisy since Bama coach Nick Saban called player agents "pimps." Both Brooking and Ryan talk a lot of junk. Nothing wrong with that. But, it seems to me, only one of them backs it up.

2. How can you hate a guy who loves M&M's Pretzels so much?

Have you tried them?

3. I'll take a loud mouth over a phony any day.

One big reason longtime coordinators who become head coaches tend to fail at such a high rate in the NFL is that when they finally get promoted they change who they are to fit some silly antiquated ideal of what they think a head coach should be. (See also: Eric Mangini.) And[b] there is nothing players tune out quicker in the NFL than a guy they perceive as a phony[/b]. I spent a lot of time with Rex when he was the defensive coordinator in Baltimore and most of the time I went into his office two things happened: I learned something new about football and I laughed so hard my gum would fall out of my mouth. He hasn't changed a bit. That's a lot harder to do than most people think.

4. He's more than paid his dues.

Eastern Kentucky? New Mexico Highlands? (I thought that was a casino at first.) Morehead State? Cincinnati? Rex had done an amazing job as the D-line coach with the Ravens for several seasons, yet when former defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis left to take the Bengals' head coaching job Ryan was passed over for Mike Nolan, the Ravens' receivers coach. After that Rex lost weight, cut his hair and whitened his teeth and still got passed over for the head job in Baltimore, Miami and Atlanta before landing in New York.

5. He had me at 'shirt fine.'

Rex fines members of the Jets who get caught working out without a shirt. This annoying trend has long been a pet peeve of mine and, even though we probably won't be able to make it a law, I applaud Rex for doing his part to rid his small part of the world of the preening, spray-on-ab K-Fed posers of the world. Now, if only he could do something about the doughy weekend warrior bicyclers -- pssst: you're going 6 mph down a side street next to a Quiznos and a Build-A-Bear workshop, plus it's not the Tour de France! -- who dress from head-to-toe in faux sponsorship spandex.

6. You think your dad casts a long shadow?

What's the saying? All sons are either trying to make up for, or live up to, their father's legacy. Try being a defensive coach in the NFL following in Buddy Ryan's footsteps. With the 46 scheme, the guy basically reinvented defensive football with the Super Bowl champion Bears in 1985-86. Not too terribly far behind on the list of best, nastiest defenses in NFL history is Baltimore's from 2000, a unit, anchored by Rex's D-line, that set the NFL record for fewest points allowed in a season. And while Buddy never managed to win a playoff game as a head coach in Arizona or Philly, Rex leap-frogged the old man after one season in New York.

7. Rex can laugh at himself.

My favorite part of the HBO series "Hard Knocks" so far was when Rex giggled his way through the caption contest for a photo of him launching his girth all of six inches off the ground to do a chest bump at practice. I spend most of my time covering a league that fines people for wearing the wrong socks, so you can understand why I appreciate a coach who doesn't take himself too seriously.

8. When it comes to profanity, face it, Rex has a gift.

Some people use paint. Or words. Others use marble. Rex is the Picasso of profanity. Like the wedding singer in "Old School" or my buddy who is so smooth with the phrase he once dropped it into his request for more stuffing during Thanksgiving dinner, Rex is a maestro of the f-bomb. That kind of genius should be nurtured, not censored. Besides, on a serious note,[b] I love how the NFL owes a good deal of its popularity and earnings to the way it caters to our society's insatiable cravings for uber violence, meanwhile everyone's up in arms over a few potty words.[/b]

9. He has an excellent, well-developed, selective memory.

We've all heard the swear words, but you know the one thing I haven't heard Rex say? That the only reason the Jets even made it into the playoffs last year was that both the Colts (on purpose) and the Bengals (not on purpose) tanked big time down the stretch.

10. He listens to his mom -- sort of -- and not Tony Dungy.

After dropping more f-bombs in episode one of "Hard Knocks" than in the first 20 minutes of "Hot Tub Time Machine" (rent it now, you'll thank me later), Ryan got called out by both Dungy and his mom. His response to Dungy overstepping his moral bounds was spot on: don't judge me. [b]But I especially loved the fact that Ryan interpreted the advice from his mom as meaning he should exchange his rampant use of the f-bomb with the even more disturbing (and awesome) phrase "nuts dropped."[/b]

11. In the end, all the players -- or anyone else -- should really care about is that he's an amazing coach and teacher.

It's safe to say that, in a whole different manner, Bill Belichick severely rubs people the wrong way, too. You know why people put up with his occasionally draconian personality? Same reason they used to put up with Bill Parcells' bullying and Paul Brown's strict rules. Because, in the end, players care about only one thing: Can you, as a coach, put me in the best possible position to succeed and achieve? And no one's better at that right now than Belichick and Rex.

12. 2007

After earning Assistant Coach of the Year honors the season before, Rex's defense in Baltimore lost several Pro Bowl players to injury but still ranked second in the NFL against the rush (2.8 yards per carry allowed) while becoming the only team in the league to not allow a 100-yard rusher the entire season.

Rex's performance that year leaves me with two final thoughts:

1. [b]The only person in the NFL who got more done in 2007 was Antonio Cromartie.[/b]

2. Thanks to Rex, the Jets might just be capable of moving on without Darrelle Revis. If the Jets can pull that off, a lot of folks are gonna owe Ryan a big 'ole apology.

Starting with Keith Brooking.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 11:10 AM

Are you going to follow up with Dungy's visit to the Home of the Jets . most people can only say what have you won ? or the season hasn't started . guess what the head game has started already and forcing Teams & players to see what all the talk is about which is right were Rex wants them .Rex wants to Be King of the Hill .
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:54 PM

[quote]

[size="5"]12 things: Defending Rex Ryan[/size]
Time for the world to respect and embrace the Jets' embattled head coach

By David Fleming
ESPN The Magazine

[img]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0820/insider_a_rryan_sy_576.jpg[/img]

Every Friday through the Super Bowl, David Fleming will check in with 12 things about the NFL. This week, he shares his responses to all the ill will generated toward outspoken Jets coach Rex Ryan.

[b]1. Let's start with Dallas linebacker Keith Brooking.[/b]

According to a recent radio interview Brooking says he's not a "big fan of all that chatter" coming from Rex. Why? Because, Brooking says, Rex and the Jets haven't really accomplished all that much.

I guess taking a team to the AFC title game with a rookie quarterback and building the No. 1 defense in the NFL and winning a Super Bowl in 2000 with the Ravens and being the D-line coach for one of the game's most dominant defenses ever doesn't qualify in Brooking's mind as big enough accomplishments. Brooking, who finished tied for 108th in sacks and 41st in solo tackles last season, said he's "more of a show-me guy."

Right. Got it. This coming from the guy who, while playing for the Cowboys last season -- a team that hadn't won a playoff game in 13 years -- would work himself into a spastic, bug-eyed, incoherent lather before kickoff while shouting stuff like "We're gonna hit 'em in the mouth! We're gonna bloody their nose! We're gonna knock 'em to the ground!"

I haven't heard this kind of hypocrisy since Bama coach Nick Saban called player agents "pimps." Both Brooking and Ryan talk a lot of junk. Nothing wrong with that. But, it seems to me, only one of them backs it up.

[b]2. How can you hate a guy who loves M&M's Pretzels so much?[/b]

Have you tried them?

[b]3. I'll take a loud mouth over a phony any day.[/b]

One big reason longtime coordinators who become head coaches tend to fail at such a high rate in the NFL is that when they finally get promoted they change who they are to fit some silly antiquated ideal of what they think a head coach should be. (See also: Eric Mangini.) And there is nothing players tune out quicker in the NFL than a guy they perceive as a phony. I spent a lot of time with Rex when he was the defensive coordinator in Baltimore and most of the time I went into his office two things happened: I learned something new about football and I laughed so hard my gum would fall out of my mouth. He hasn't changed a bit. That's a lot harder to do than most people think.

[b]4. He's more than paid his dues.[/b]

Eastern Kentucky? New Mexico Highlands? (I thought that was a casino at first.) Morehead State? Cincinnati? Rex had done an amazing job as the D-line coach with the Ravens for several seasons, yet when former defensive coordinator Marvin Lewis left to take the Bengals' head coaching job Ryan was passed over for Mike Nolan, the Ravens' receivers coach. After that Rex lost weight, cut his hair and whitened his teeth and still got passed over for the head job in Baltimore, Miami and Atlanta before landing in New York.

[b]5. He had me at 'shirt fine.'[/b]

Rex fines members of the Jets who get caught working out without a shirt. This annoying trend has long been a pet peeve of mine and, even though we probably won't be able to make it a law, I applaud Rex for doing his part to rid his small part of the world of the preening, spray-on-ab K-Fed posers of the world. Now, if only he could do something about the doughy weekend warrior bicyclers -- pssst: you're going 6 mph down a side street next to a Quiznos and a Build-A-Bear workshop, plus it's not the Tour de France! -- who dress from head-to-toe in faux sponsorship spandex.

[b]6. You think your dad casts a long shadow?[/b]

What's the saying? All sons are either trying to make up for, or live up to, their father's legacy. Try being a defensive coach in the NFL following in Buddy Ryan's footsteps. With the 46 scheme, the guy basically reinvented defensive football with the Super Bowl champion Bears in 1985-86. Not too terribly far behind on the list of best, nastiest defenses in NFL history is Baltimore's from 2000, a unit, anchored by Rex's D-line, that set the NFL record for fewest points allowed in a season. And while Buddy never managed to win a playoff game as a head coach in Arizona or Philly, Rex leap-frogged the old man after one season in New York.
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7. Rex can laugh at himself.[/b]

My favorite part of the HBO series "Hard Knocks" so far was when Rex giggled his way through the caption contest for a photo of him launching his girth all of six inches off the ground to do a chest bump at practice. I spend most of my time covering a league that fines people for wearing the wrong socks, so you can understand why I appreciate a coach who doesn't take himself too seriously.

Buddy Ryan
Ronald C. Modra/Sports Imagery/Getty ImagesFollowing the legacy of Buddy Ryan is no easy feat.

[b]8. When it comes to profanity, face it, Rex has a gift.
[/b]
Some people use paint. Or words. Others use marble. Rex is the Picasso of profanity. Like the wedding singer in "Old School" or my buddy who is so smooth with the phrase he once dropped it into his request for more stuffing during Thanksgiving dinner, Rex is a maestro of the f-bomb. That kind of genius should be nurtured, not censored. Besides, on a serious note, I love how the NFL owes a good deal of its popularity and earnings to the way it caters to our society's insatiable cravings for uber violence, meanwhile everyone's up in arms over a few potty words.
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9. He has an excellent, well-developed, selective memory.
[/b]
We've all heard the swear words, but you know the one thing I haven't heard Rex say? That the only reason the Jets even made it into the playoffs last year was that both the Colts (on purpose) and the Bengals (not on purpose) tanked big time down the stretch.
[b]
10. He listens to his mom -- sort of -- and not Tony Dungy.[/b]

After dropping more f-bombs in episode one of "Hard Knocks" than in the first 20 minutes of "Hot Tub Time Machine" (rent it now, you'll thank me later), Ryan got called out by both Dungy and his mom. His response to Dungy overstepping his moral bounds was spot on: don't judge me. But I especially loved the fact that Ryan interpreted the advice from his mom as meaning he should exchange his rampant use of the f-bomb with the even more disturbing (and awesome) phrase "nuts dropped."

[b]11. In the end, all the players -- or anyone else -- should really care about is that he's an amazing coach and teacher.[/b]

It's safe to say that, in a whole different manner, Bill Belichick severely rubs people the wrong way, too. You know why people put up with his occasionally draconian personality? Same reason they used to put up with Bill Parcells' bullying and Paul Brown's strict rules. Because, in the end, players care about only one thing: Can you, as a coach, put me in the best possible position to succeed and achieve? And no one's better at that right now than Belichick and Rex.

[b]12. 2007[/b]

After earning Assistant Coach of the Year honors the season before, Rex's defense in Baltimore lost several Pro Bowl players to injury but still ranked second in the NFL against the rush (2.8 yards per carry allowed) while becoming the only team in the league to not allow a 100-yard rusher the entire season.

Rex's performance that year leaves me with two final thoughts:

1. The only person in the NFL who got more done in 2007 was Antonio Cromartie.

2. Thanks to Rex, the Jets might just be capable of moving on without Darrelle Revis. If the Jets can pull that off, a lot of folks are gonna owe Ryan a big 'ole apology.

Starting with Keith Brooking.[/quote]

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since I spent so much time down on it."-Tom Brady


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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:07 PM

Cracking article topped off by that line about Cromartie at the end. Good fiind Leon and thanks for posting it.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:10 PM

ahhh...guess this was already posted. if one of the mods want to scrap it...please go ahead and do so.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:38 PM

Rex is BOSS. That is all.

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