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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Mangold Gets New Deal 7 year / 55 mill

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 06:45 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5484723

With the Darrelle Revis holdout dominating headlines for three weeks, the New York Jets quietly have been negotiating a long-term extension for All-Pro center Nick Mangold.

The two sides are close to a new deal that likely will make Mangold the highest-paid center in the league, league sources told ESPN.com.

"It should be any day now," a source close to Mangold said Sunday night.

A Jets spokesman would not confirm the deal.

Mangold, a first-round pick in 2006, is entering the final year of his rookie contract. Because of an escalator, he's due to make $3.3 million. In the spring and leading into training camp, Mangold expressed his displeasure with his contract, saying the two sides had barely spoken to each other. At one point, Mangold hinted that he might not show up for training camp.

GM Mike Tannenbaum, in a stalemate with the Revis camp, turned his attention toward Mangold, one of the team's core veterans. Details of the contract weren't immediately available, but the benchmark is believed to be Jason Brown of the St. Louis Rams. In 2009, Brown signed a five-year, $37.5 million deal that included $20 million in guarantees.

Mangold's deal has been complicated by the 30 percent rule in the CBA, but the two sides evidently found common ground and worked around the restrictions. The 30 percent rule states that, in an uncapped year, a player's salary in an extension can't be more than 30 percent of his previous year's salary.

John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com. Rich Cimini covers the Jets for ESPNNewYork.com.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:10 PM

An undisclosed source (within the Jets organization) requesting annonymity has told SNY that the Mangold deal could be completed by this tuesday: 5 years 37.5 mil (highest paid C in the league)

[b]Also, the same source told Jets Nation on SNY that the Mangold deal might get Revis to the signing table as early as [u]NEXT WEEK



[/u][/b]Good for Nick. He did it the right way. Total class all the way through. Thank you Tanny for realizing Nick's loyalty to the team and paying him accordingly.


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Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:21 PM

Going to be honest, this signifies to me that the Jets know that the Revis deal might not get done anytime soon... if ever.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:34 PM

I don't think this has anything to do with Revis, they always wanted Mangold long term and was a priority to get signed but difficult because of the rules, they always had a open line of communication, but all it takes is 1 call to spark the fire.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 07:41 PM

By Manish Mehta

Nick Mangold is about to land a hefty payday.

The All-Pro center is close to signing a new deal, according to multiple sources. The extension is expected to be finalized in the next few days.

Although Darrelle Revis’ three-week long holdout has grabbed the headlines, Mangold appears to be the next member of the Jets’ “Core Four” to get a contract extension. Left tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson signed a 6-year, $60 million extension last month.

Mangold, who is scheduled to earn $3.3 million in the final year of his five-year rookie deal, will likely get a contract comparable to St. Louis Rams center Jason Brown’s five-year, $37.5 million deal signed last year.

Revis and linebacker David Harris, who is entering the final year of his rookie deal, are still looking for new deals.

Mangold, of course, made no secret that he wasn’t happy with the slow pace of negotiations this offseason. Despite the stalled contract talks, Mangold recently admitted that he decided after the team’s June mini-camp that he wasn't going to hold out of training camp.

His desire to help second-year pro Matt Slauson and rookie Vlad Ducasse in their competition for vacant left guard spot factored into his decision to show up to Cortland.

"They need all the help they can get," Mangold said earlier this month. “As a team, we're only as good as our weakest link. There's no reason we should have a weak link at offensive line."

In the end, the Jets rewarded him.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2010/08/all-pro-center-nick-mangold-cl.html#ixzz0xNwfQsmm
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:06 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='22 August 2010 - 08:34 PM' timestamp='1282523648' post='308390']
I don't think this has anything to do with Revis, they always wanted Mangold long term and was a priority to get signed but difficult because of the rules, they always had a open line of communication, but all it takes is 1 call to spark the fire.
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Wait, difficult because of the rules? You serious? There was nothign holding back, obviously the found a way to do it if he's going to be the highest paid center in the league.

I think they are starting to look at the loyal players, as players they need to pay and keep around. I wouldn't be surprised if after this deal is announced, we hear Jets and Harris talk... even if it isn't true.

It's gutcheck time on Revis and his camp.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:15 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='22 August 2010 - 09:06 PM' timestamp='1282525617' post='308394']
Wait, difficult because of the rules? You serious? There was nothign holding back, obviously the found a way to do it if he's going to be the highest paid center in the league.

I think they are starting to look at the loyal players, as players they need to pay and keep around. I wouldn't be surprised if after this deal is announced, we hear Jets and Harris talk... even if it isn't true.

It's gutcheck time on Revis and his camp.
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The rules and why it was difficult to sign Mangold and Harris are not new news so I am not going to explain them, but yes it was making it tougher to extend Mangold. Tannenbaum has been clear with that for a while, it wasn't impossible to get done but more difficult than the usual contract. He has said that if his agent called with something creative they would talk and obviously that may of happened.

This doesn't mean they aren't extending Revis or that Revis is now on the outs, Mangold was always a guy they wanted extended. So if they had extended Revis did that mean that Mangold was a goner? Anyways there is still a chance Revis is signed this week, this guy is sticking with his story that Revis announcement will be this week.




Also from what I heard, Mangold's deal is largely not upfront so that is probably how they figured to get by the rule. Also speculates that its good for Revis since he wants large upfront money.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:21 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='22 August 2010 - 09:15 PM' timestamp='1282526105' post='308395']
The rules and why it was difficult to sign Mangold and Harris are not new news so I am not going to explain them, but yes it was making it tougher to extend Mangold. Tannenbaum has been clear with that for a while, it wasn't impossible to get done but more difficult than the usual contract. He has said that if his agent called with something creative they would talk and obviously that may of happened.

This doesn't mean they aren't extending Revis or that Revis is now on the outs, Mangold was always a guy they wanted extended. So if they had extended Revis did that mean that Mangold was a goner? Anyways there is still a chance Revis is signed this week, this guy is sticking with his story that Revis announcement will be this week.




Also from what I heard, Mangold's deal is largely not upfront so that is probably how they figured to get by the rule. Also speculates that its good for Revis since he wants large upfront money.
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My point is, from Day 1 MT knew that he could get a deal done with Mangold to make him the highest paid C in the league. Period. Don't think he didn't do his homework and have this deal mapped out, he wanted to wait until he either A) Signed Revis B) Decided to hold off on the Revis deal, IMO.

So right now, we're looking at it differently. You think Revis is going to be signed shortly, and I think they are sticking to their guns on the Revis deal.

And no, I don't think that Revis or Mangold were ever going to be goners... I just think this Revis ordeal is far from over.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:30 PM

PS: 0099, after reading those tweets you showed, if it's true and Mangold isn't getting too much money upfront then there is alot of hope for the Revis deal. The Jets could be caving in a little, especially after locking up Mangold and still having the tag available for next year.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 08:34 PM

I am happy to see us moving on from the Revis situation. Lets get the good guys signed. I would be suprised to see Revis b-4 week 1. Possibly not until during the season. Both sides are ready to wait this out.
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Posted 22 August 2010 - 10:06 PM

Good jon by the jets. see mangold did teh right thing and ddin't holdout as did brick, and both got deals. revis coulda gotten what he wanted w/o holding out
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 12:07 AM

Revis most likely would have been signed to a new deal by now had his greedy ass actually shown up for camp. Given that Revis hasn't shown up online even since God knows when, even on his Twitter, one has to wonder where he's been. Could all of this be a ploy and he's actually in a rehab somewhere? I know that's pure speculation on my part but the boy has disappeared off the face of the planet apparently since mini camp.

Its good to see Nick getting paid for doing what's right though. He actually cares about his teammates while caring about himself. Unlike Darelle MEvis.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 06:30 AM

revis is dedicated to football I still think he will be signed soon. Mangold.... All I can say is he took the crap in stride and hopefully gets what he deserves. Was unhappy but played his contract out like a man and is getting rewarded.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:09 AM

[quote name='XvNukemHighvX' date='23 August 2010 - 07:30 AM' timestamp='1282563003' post='308410']
revis is dedicated to football I still think he will be signed soon. Mangold.... All I can say is he took the crap in stride and hopefully gets what he deserves. Was unhappy but played his contract out like a man and is getting rewarded.
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Between Ferguson and Mangold it shows that if you keep your mouth shut and play you will be taken care of.

This will send a message to the Revis camp I think.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 01:26 PM

$55 mil $23 mil guaranteed I"m hearing.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 03:18 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='23 August 2010 - 07:26 PM' timestamp='1282588003' post='308430']
$55 mil $23 mil guaranteed I"m hearing.
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That's quite a bit more than the Jason Brown deal, but Mangold arguably deserves it as he is the best center currently in the league. I'm glad he handled things the way he did too as it showed not only Revis, but the other guys around the league who holdout a lesson.

Hopefully news on a new deal for Revis will follow shortly too, but I wouldn't put my mortgage on it at all.
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 06:50 PM

7 year 55 mil for Mangold
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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:56 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5490830


[size="5"]Source: Nick Mangold deal is done[/size]

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets and All-Pro center Nick Mangold have agreed on a new seven-year deal worth a maximum of $55 million, a league source told ESPNNewYork.com Monday. The new contract could be signed as early as Tuesday.

Mangold decided to participate in training camp while awaiting a new deal, unlike cornerback Darrelle Revis, who did not join the team in Cortland, N.Y., on Aug. 1 and whose negotiations became frayed. When Jets coach Rex Ryan was asked Monday if there was any word on any other contract negotiations, he sounded skeptical.

"That'd be news to me," Ryan said.

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Earlier on Monday, Mangold said he had discussed the contract situation with Revis, who will make roughly $1 million if he plays this season under his current deal. But he didn't think it was ultimately fruitful on anything but a personal level.

"We talked," Mangold said. "I would say being in the same situation I didn't feel that we should be taking advice from each other."

Mangold declined to talk about the negotiations, based on advice he got from his agents, but he did talk about his decision to come to camp after considering a holdout as early as minicamp.

"[Holding out] didn't fit my personality," Mangold said. "It's not me, it's not who I am, and it's not what I do."

Mangold ultimately decided he needed to be in camp for the starting left guard battle, and his teammates respected him for it.

"He treated it like a professional," said fellow lineman Brandon Moore. "He could've easily made a stink about it, did some things here even when he was here. You wouldn't have known. A lot of guys didn't even know it was an issue. I think that's a testament of how professional he is, able to put that aside, and just come to work."

In theory, since he wasn't talking about football, Mangold said he'd be happy to play center long-term for the Jets, which is something Ryan can get behind.

"He's a tremendous player obviously and that would be a huge thing for our franchise," Ryan said.

Ryan has referred to Mangold as the best center in the NFL.

"He can handle nose tackles, and that's where it starts now with all these 3-4 teams I think," Ryan said. "It could be every team in our division playing a 3-4 and you better have a center who can match up with these nose tackles."

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 01:18 AM

there is no way that this doesn't influence darelle revis.

everybody knows Mangold is the best center in the NFL right now. Revis knows Mangold is the best center in the NFL right now. if the Jets could work a deal w. the NFL's best center, they could work a deal with the NFL's best cornerback.

...does that logic make any sense? it'd be naive to think that Revis isn't affected by this. Mangold was his other 'contract dispute' buddy, and now thats over and he's all alone.




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