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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) jets and giants players hang out all the time
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) i'm sure they dont care lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:24 AM) well bills won, we need a win this week to stay inn 2nd
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) at least miami is pretty much done but we have to compete with NE and buffalo still
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) as santana said, it's probably all in fun. most of these guys in the NFL are friends with players form other teams. I'm sure some jets/giants players are friends with each other
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:31 PM) Vick = $$
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Revis - Tied for 3rd - Grade: 93

Comment: Revis is arguably the best cover corner in the league. After his rookie season in 2007, Revis has put two excellent seasons together. Revis has good size and excellent athleticism for the corner position. He has excellent quickness, balance and burst to play in man coverage. He is at his best in press man coverage, where he can use his long arms to get an effective jam on his opponent off the line of scrimmage. He has good vision and instincts. Revis is a solid run-support player who shows decent pop as a tackler. He doesn't have outstanding pure speed on the perimeter, but understands angles and leverage. He's a natural runner with the ball in his hands. Revis is an impressive young athlete who should continue to improve in 2010.

Mangold - tied for 14th - Grade: 91

Commen: Mangold is considered one of the better centers in the league after four consistent seasons with the Jets. Mangold has good size and strength and can handle the shotgun snap. He's a smart, competitive player with toughness, awareness and foot quickness. He has average speed and body control in space. He has decent pop and punch initially to stymie defenders but doesn't have great natural strength to anchor versus powerful bull-rushers. Overall, Mangold has the physical tools and mental makeup to have a long career as a frontline center.

Kris Jenkins - Tied for 46th - Grade: 86

Comment: Jenkins was a high-profile acquisition for the Jets in 2008. After a solid first season in New York, Jenkins was banged up most of 2009 and had limited production. Jenkins plays with power and strength. He can locate the ball in traffic with good block recognition. He displays good anticipation but can be late off the ball at times. He gives inconsistent effort in pursuit. He can split double-team blocks and be disruptive in the backfield. As a pass-rusher, he is a powerful player who has the strength to push the inside pocket. He can get his hands up in the throwing lanes. When healthy, Jenkins has the size and power to be one of the top interior defenders in the league.

Davis Harris - 112th - Grade: 81

Comment: Harris had another outstanding season for the Jets' defense. Harris has size and athletic skills. He's a competitive player with toughness. He has good functional playing speed with acceleration and closing burst. Harris displays good explosion in his hips to take on blockers. He has good run and pass-recognition skills. He's capable of making plays in space. Harris has good instincts and can locate the ball in traffic. As a blitzer, he has great power to collapse the pocket. Harris had great production in 2009 as an inside linebacker in the 3-4 and likely will continue to improve with more experience under Rex Ryan.

Cromartie - 120th - Grade: 80

Comment: Cromartie is five-year veteran who was acquired in a trade this offseason. He an excellent athlete who was hindered by a hip injury for a good portion of the 2008 season but bounced back well in 2009. He has the size and speed to be a shut down CB in the league and can make plays on the ball like few other players in the league. He is very fluid through hips. He has exceptional recovery skills when healthy and he uses his long arms well to intercept or break up plays. He has enough size and strength to match up well with big and physical receivers, but he is also quick enough mirror routes of quick players. Cromartie is considered one of the leagues better cover corners and bolsters and already excellent Jets defense in 2010.

Holmes - Tied 122nd - Grade: 79

Comment: Holmes should be an excellent acquisition for the Jets giving their young signal-caller another effective perimeter target. Holmes had his best season statistically in 2009 racking up over 1,200 yards receiving. He has good burst out of his cuts is outstanding, and when he sticks his foot in the ground and explodes out of it, few can keep up. His deep speed and body control are also top notch. Holmes is not the biggest or strongest wide out around and probably does his best work outside the numbers. Holmes is a good football player that could have an impact in the New York passing game if he can stay out of trouble

Bart Scott - Tied 157 - Grade: 78

Comment: Scott made the transition in the Jets' scheme easy for the head coach Rex Ryan in 2009. He was a key acquisition for New York as a leader as well as providing valuable experience in the defensive front seven. Scott has good size and strength as an inside linebacker to be an effective run-stopper between the tackles. He uses his hands well to shed or slip blockers with good lateral agility and a burst inside-out to the ball. He has good pop and power as a tackler and also uses his strength to separate quickly from larger blockers. He understands leverage and angles to the ball, while also attacking the line of scrimmage with great run fits. He is solid reading and reacting as a pass-defender, but has had more success as a blitzer than in coverage. Scott is better in underneath zone coverage and can get exposed in pure man schemes. He is good at timing his blitzes up and shows good power and agility to beat his opponent.

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