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ROBJETS Icon : (22 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (22 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 August 2014 - 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (23 August 2014 - 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
santana Icon : (23 August 2014 - 10:14 AM) http://youtu.be/2X0H709cJkA
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 August 2014 - 02:46 PM) Sam Bradford tears ACL and out for the season
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) Dimitri Patterson is MISSING
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 August 2014 - 10:28 PM) Rams want Sanchez
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 August 2014 - 10:28 PM) Shotty and Sanchez again
FlyHiJets Icon : (25 August 2014 - 01:04 PM) Champ Bailey to be released by Denver. Considering how busted up we are and Patterson now being suspended, do we take a look?
FlyHiJets Icon : (25 August 2014 - 01:05 PM) Cro rumored to be gettin released from Arizona. We should definitely bring him in since he already knows the system and he's bett erhtan our 3rd/4th stringers which is where we're at at this point.
FlyHiJets Icon : (25 August 2014 - 01:06 PM) *better than
Chaos Icon : (25 August 2014 - 01:58 PM) Cro may get released?!
Chaos Icon : (25 August 2014 - 02:07 PM) /announcement
Jetsfan115 Icon : (25 August 2014 - 04:54 PM) patterson suspended indefinatly by idzik. were fucked at CB right now
azjetfan Icon : (25 August 2014 - 08:35 PM) Do the Rams have a CB worth trading for?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) Saunders had a seizure, that is why he got into a car crash. He returned to practice, weird/
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 07:00 AM) ‏@AdamSchefter 4m
Jets tried trading WR Stepehen Hill this summer. No takers. Let's see if final cuts today and Saturday change that equation.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 11:15 AM) i hate izdik
azjetfan Icon : (26 August 2014 - 12:32 PM) Our starting CB Walls working in rehab area
Jetsfan115 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 02:52 PM) any CBs that are decent on the trade block or facing salary cuts?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:00 PM) I wouldnt cut Hill watch him go to NE and turn into Randy Moss
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) I'm just glad there aren't anymore greedy bastards on the team to deal with
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) Or street thugs
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) f*** a CB problem
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:49 PM) need 1 more in the fantasy league
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:33 PM) Dimitri suspended for the rest of preseason. I'm sorry, I know we are bone dry at corner these days but they should have cut this prick on the spot . He's going to get torched regardless this year and I'd rather cut ties with any potential cancerous attitutudes before the season even starts.
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:34 PM) Where I come from you take responsibility for your actions. Not showing up for a game is cowardly and selfish. f*** him
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:36 PM) Also he doesn't know what the acronym AWOL means so he's also an idiot. No wonder he's never been anything but a journeyman corner is this league.
azjetfan Icon : (26 August 2014 - 09:11 PM) So how do you really feel?
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 11:18 PM) I think my last three posts pretty much summarize how I feel haha. He's making 1.5 mill this year and no call no shows because his feeling are hurt. Would rather you play corner azjetfan than this guy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:12 AM) Need 1 more for FFB!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) Stephen Hill is going to get cut, guy sucks. Greg Salas is a better football player and deserves a spot over him
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:27 AM) So when do we show up to 115s house with pitchforks, tar and feathers?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 PM) i'd rather see idzik go then hill. fire idzik
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 12:21 PM) Hill is such a disappointment. I really was hopping for so much when he scored 2 TDs his first game
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:13 PM) idk if any of u guys went to any of the games last year[Im sure some of u did] but im not a fan of the drumline leading the chant
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:14 PM) its not the same as 70,000 people doing it during every kickoff and after every score
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:43 PM) injuries and poor QB play aren't good for a WR to develop
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:08 PM) 115 and Hill. Lol!
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Nfl Moving Forward On 18 Game Season In 2012 Owners are targeting 2012

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:26 PM

[url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13819943/nfl-moving-forward-tageting-18game-season-for-2012"]18 Game Season in 2012?[/url]

CBSSports.com wire reports
Aug. 25, 2010 ATLANTA -- NFL owners have shown widespread support for going to an 18-game schedule but want to implement the change as part of a new labor agreement.

Commissioner Roger Goodell says owners see two more regular-season games -- and two fewer preseason games -- as the most logical way to enhance revenues in a difficult economic environment. He says it will be one of the main issues in talks on reaching a new collective bargaining agreement.

The current deal runs out after this season. Players are eager to see how much of the additional revenue they will receive with an expanded schedule, especially since it could increase the risk of injuries or health problems after they retire.

Goodell says the league is targeting 2012 for the 18-game season.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:34 PM

as much as i love football, i don't agree with expanding the schedule.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:38 PM

Anybody else think this clears the way for two more expansion teams in the very near future?
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:30 PM

It's funny that right after Goodell threw another one of his bitch fits about teams taking games "off" after clinching the playoffs he wants to expand to even more games. What happens when a team in a bad division is up by five games with a month in the season to go? What knee-jerk-reaction rule will he come up with to try and force teams that have no reason to risk injury to play out the season? Playoff seeding based on performance over the last four weeks! Fines, punishment for being good! Screw fans who can't appreciate their team winning twelve games a year for a decade, those people aren't fans anyway, they won't be there for the league when the team is down. Screw Indy's fair weather ass fans-punish them. How about Cleveland fans get rewarded for showing up to watch a turd on a cold day?

There is no reason to expand to so many games. I love football and miss it the months it is off, but I also know that the game can't afford much expansion and that part of the reason I don't like the other sports as much is that there are so many meaningless games. Get ready for the fun of being a Rams fan as they go 1-17. Woo!

I don't really like the term "hypocrite" because I think what it really means is not just someone contradicting themselves, but just that the "hypocrite" has a good ($$$$) reason to change their mind. Roger Goodell either hates football, or is so willing to subvert his small amount of love for the game for money that he can't be trusted to make important changes in the game. His BS excuse about player safety that he uses to change the rules to increase offense, his knee-jerk reaction to a small portion of the audience's whining about Indy and other's surrendering games, and so many of his other money-induced blunders should get his ass fired. Install someone who both wants the game to be great and to make money so the fans, players, and owners get what they want.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:49 PM

This just opens up more questions for me...

How will scheduling change? Will we have "interleague" games like baseball where the Jets play the Giants every year?
How will roster sizes changes to adjust to two more games?
What about all the records that were set that will now be blown open because Chris Johnson gets 2 more game per year to run the ball?
With the added punishment, will RBs over 28 be considered "Done"? How many fewer years per player is the avg NFL career going to be? How will rookie adjust to playing basically twice the collegian schedule (for much less money at that)?
With two fewer games to evaluate player, will there be a farm system within or independent of the NFL?
Is Goodell the new Gary Bettman?
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 10:58 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='25 August 2010 - 07:38 PM' timestamp='1282779508' post='308558']
Anybody else think this clears the way for two more expansion teams in the very near future?
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I wouldn't mind seeing another team in the Midwest. I would say, lets stick a team in Louisville, KY and another in Central Texas, right in the middle of Austin and San Antonio. That would be tits.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 02:18 AM

Instead of having 4 preseason games we'll have 2. The other 2 will get added on to the sched (I believe). I can see some problems. The owners are definitely happy with this. 2 more games to charge people out the ass.

I can't really say I'm against it tho. How will the playoff and wildcard standings be like?..

I really have a lot of question marks. At first glance it doesn't seem that bad.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:39 AM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='26 August 2010 - 12:18 AM' timestamp='1282807100' post='308569']
Instead of having 4 preseason games we'll have 2. The other 2 will get added on to the sched (I believe). I can see some problems. The owners are definitely happy with this. 2 more games to charge people out the ass.

I can't really say I'm against it tho. How will the playoff and wildcard standings be like?..

I really have a lot of question marks. At first glance it doesn't seem that bad.
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My concerns are this

#1 are they going to inflate each players contract by 2 extra games> for instance if a player is making 16 mil a year now will it automatically be moved to 18 mil?

#2 Injuries and wear and tear on RBs. I mean how can you expect someone to have fresh legs after 18 games? Expanded rosters? Sure but that just water downs the overall talent level

#3 Records, they will all be broken probably
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:56 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='26 August 2010 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1282833585' post='308574']
My concerns are this

#1 are they going to inflate each players contract by 2 extra games> for instance if a player is making 16 mil a year now will it automatically be moved to 18 mil?

#2 Injuries and wear and tear on RBs. I mean how can you expect someone to have fresh legs after 18 games? Expanded rosters? Sure but that just water downs the overall talent level

#3 Records, they will all be broken probably
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1)They won't want to anyway.

2)There will be even more of a back-by-committee approach. In fact, it is almost a lock that rosters would have to expand. After they went to sixteen games the roster sizes went up by six men within six years. I don't doubt that the same would happen again, as teams would have to pad their rosters because of wear and tear.

The ramifications of this would be hard to determine, although I think you'd see more teams running plays out of oddball formations (i.e. the Wildcat) and also you'd probably find teams treating early season games as preseason games in the past. If the Colts are up by three touchdowns going into the fourth against a "bad" team, expect their bubble players to come in, watering down the product just like if nothing had changed. In fact, I'm of the opinion teams will play backups so much more in the regular season that it we'll still see two preseason games a year from just about every team.

Teams will probably have a "pitch count" system for most positions, even quarterbacks. Who wants to watch Mark Sanchez throw the ball twenty-five times and get yanked to protect his arm, only to see Clemens running the offense down three in the two minute drill.

3)Yeah, passing records will go out the door since quarterbacks will still stay on the field quite a bit. I'd imagine less rushing records going down, since backs have always hit a wall once they roll up to a certain amount. It's never been good to go over four-hundred (unless you ask Herm Edwards, then that is the goal), and nothing is going to change there.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:21 AM

The Commissar is the Owners Guy running the league for the owners but appearing to be the white knight for the benefit of all , just not the case. this is a plantation run business
" as the most logical way to enhance revenues in a difficult economic environment." they don't need more money but they want to dominate the world of sports and dilute your minds from the evil perpetration afflicted in human kind. why not ask the fans and voted like they do on American idol seems to work.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:50 AM

Wow. I wonder if there was so much opposition to expanding from a 13-14 game season to 16. It's not like this is the first time this has happened guys. As for the players wanting more money, I wouldn't give it to them. It's still a total of 20 games per season no matter how you look at it. The fact that the starters will be playing longer doesnt justify anything because they could be called upon to play in the preseason too although we know the norm is that they typically dont.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:55 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='26 August 2010 - 10:50 AM' timestamp='1282837811' post='308582']
Wow. I wonder if there was so much opposition to expanding from a 13-14 game season to 16. It's not like this is the first time this has happened guys. As for the players wanting more money, I wouldn't give it to them. It's still a total of 20 games per season no matter how you look at it. The fact that the starters will be playing longer doesnt justify anything because they could be called upon to play in the preseason too although we know the norm is that they typically dont.
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I'm sure there was opposition, and maybe they were right. There has to be some sort of dividing line. I don't want to get to the point where it is like basketball where the second half of the season you have half the playoff locked, with seven or eight teams playing for the last five-ish spots and the rest of the league just sitting there getting their ass kicked.

The more games you play, the more games there are going to be that are irrelevant, and the more regular season games that look like preseason with teams working in backups to see how they do. I see this, not for everyone but for a lot, as basically making it certain that there are going to be multiple teams benching starters at the end of the year, which means instead of four exhibition games before the year, teams like the Colts will have preseason and two or more before the playoffs (pre-postseason).

As to the players in the preseason. The big pos(I'm really against this by the way)ition is clearly running back. Most teams with a locked in starter barely let them touch the ball more than four or five teams in the preseason. How is it going to translate to the regular season? Teams with workhorse backs will have to cut them off at some point. how will that work? In blowouts the player that is supposed to help run out the clock will have to come off the field. I imagine you'll see more teams bring on ground-and-pound backs to finish teams off. But in a season of close games, what will happen to featured backs? More wear and tear on linemen will mean more mixed-lines, which might lead to teams with good lines giving up more injuries. Even QBs will have to be careful how many passes they throw. Guys throwing forty plus times a game have shoulder wear.

There comes a time where between expansion and more games you dilute the product. I will have a much decreased interest in an NFL where Shonn Greene is limited to fifteen carries a game as a featured back and if the team is 13-2 Mark plays a series a game for the last three games. maybe eighteen will work, but at some point the NFL will have to stop growing, and I wonder how much more is necessary.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:01 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='25 August 2010 - 06:38 PM' timestamp='1282779508' post='308558']
Anybody else think this clears the way for two more expansion teams in the very near future?
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Los Angeles and Montreal or Ottawa
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:18 PM

There comes a time where between expansion and more games you dilute the product quote ALelbow . really that is the truth I was referring to in my comments . like when you go to the super market and it costs $5 for 13oz of coffee instead of 16 oz at $3 . or you pay more for them not putting poison in your food . this is my last sport in this evil world .
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 04:46 PM

Well this just made any of the existing records completely meaningless. The NFL is hungry for money and that's it.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 05:21 PM

I completely agree with A1Elbow on this. With 32 teams, a 16 game schedule is perfect. The only reason the owners want 18 is to increase their revenues - at the same time they are asking for the players to take a lower proportion of league revenues, which is completely hypocritical.
While I understand us fans aren't fond of watching third string guys loaf about clumsily for half an hour's worth of football for four weeks, the month long preseason is surely neccessary when it comes to evaluating players and making the right decision when it comes to cutting guys. Unless the league creates a development league - which you suspect the owners would not do given how important profit appears to be for them during these negotiation - then those diamonds in the rough won't be given time to showcase their talents. Perhaps the best way to get more fans through the door for preseason contests is to charge lower admission prices rather than make fans pay the cost of a regular season game?
Being an overseas based fan, obviously I appreciate the league bringing games to London, but having a week's worth of games played in places across the planet rather than just the one game they currently play would be overkill and gimmicky and could potentially alienate a team's core fanbase.
These CBA talks could make or break the NFL. Admittedly they're not in a position like the NHL before their lockout where interest was dwindling, but surely the league cannot risk losing their place as the preeminent sports league in the US after doing so much to become the top dog?
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Posted 28 August 2010 - 01:47 PM

This is how the owners are going to make their money back because the players union is going to take them to the woodshed after the next CBA is finalized. This is a perfect time for me to Blast unions but it doesn't belong in this forum.
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