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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (31 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (31 August 2014 - 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (31 August 2014 - 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (31 August 2014 - 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (31 August 2014 - 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (31 August 2014 - 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (31 August 2014 - 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) ^^^ agreed
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:17 PM) The Jets are fucked at CB, signing some bums now. We need Milliner to get healthy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 04:20 PM) We have signed CB Phillip Adams
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:55 PM) The Gayders are playing Derek Carr against the JETS
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:55 PM) our D Line better put him in a WORLD OF PAIN
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:11 PM) Rookie QB in our house...Rex do your thing!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:56 PM) with Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls as our starting CBs
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:00 PM) our offense should be better than last year, Geno looks more comfortable
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"knocks" Reveals Jets Internal Depth Chart

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:15 AM

Storylines for this week's episode of "Hard Knocks" focused on the New York Jets' fringe players, laying the groundwork for drama on final cutdown day in a couple weekends.

Most revealing from my perspective was the chance to eavesdrop on general manager Mike Tannenbaum and head coach Rex Ryan discussing their roster numbers. On a dry-erase board, Tannenbaum tried to do the math and gave a glimpse of what the 53-man roster will look like, more or less.

Next to the team's official depth chart, Tannenbaum scrawled out the number of players they plan to keep at each position, with the caveat they can adjust for special teams.

Offense (25 players):

* Three quarterbacks
* Five running backs
* Five wide receivers (including Santonio Holmes)
* Four tight ends
* Eight offensive linemen


Defense (23 players):

* Six defensive linemen
* Four outside linebackers
* Four inside linebackers
* Five cornerbacks (I think because I couldn't decipher the abbreviation)
* Four safeties (I think for the same reason)


Add a kicker, punter and long-snapper, and that's 51 players, leaving two special-teams spots for everybody else to fight over.

The show suggested the bubble players were running back Danny Woodhead, fullback Jason Davis, receivers David Clowney and Larry Taylor, tight end Matthew Mulligan and linebacker Lance Laury.

Injuries, of course, can impact the numbers. The breakdown was done before defensive end Ropati Pitoitua suffered a season-ending torn Achilles tendon in Saturday's preseason game against the Carolina Panthers.

Pitoitua's injury was significant for Rodrique Wright, who had an "X" next to his name on the depth chart, suggesting the Jets planned to cut him.

"Hey, you going to make this [expletive] team?" Ryan says to Wright on the sideline after learning of Pitoitua's injury. "This kid just tore his [expletive] Achilles. Or do I need to pick somebody else up?"

"Hard Knocks" revealed others with an "X" next to his name or a "PS" to indicate practice squad. A slow and up-close pan of all the unmarked name plates helped determine who had been designated in the shot of Tannenbaum sketching out the roster.

These were the other "X" players still on the roster I could decipher thanks to the high-def on my big-screen plasma: quarterback Kellen Clemens, running back Chauncey Washington, center Robby Felix, guard Marlon Davis and tackles Dan Gay and Michael Turkovich. An "X" also appeared next to a blank spot at fullback, suggesting Jason Davis.

These were the "PS" players: defensive linemen Matthew Kroul, Ty Steinkuhler and Martin Tevaseu and safety Emanuel Cook.

Also notable about the depth chart, rookie Vladimir Ducasse was above Matt Slauson at left guard. Shonn Greene was on top of LaDainian Tomlinson.

Not a lot of surprises, but interesting nevertheless.

Yet based on Ryan's comments about his third-stringers late in the 9-3 victory over the Panthers, there's plenty of room to make an impression over the final couple weeks.

"Guys, we're dead with this group. We have replacements?" Ryan says into his headset to his defensive assistants in the press box. Ryan's voice gets angrier. "Do we have any replacements? Get me the No. Twos out there! I'm not going to lose this [expletive] game! Give me the [expletive] Twos out there. Finish the [expletive] job!

"We're leaving the Twos out there if we have to. Finish the game. I don't give two [expletive]. Some of those guys can't play dead in a B western."

Washington, for example, went from having an "X" next to his name to receiving a game ball for a jarring hit on punt coverage and strong running.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/26612/knocks-reveals-jets-internal-depth-chart
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:24 AM

So I guess this is what it was.

QB-Mark Sanchez, Mark Brunell, Kevin O'Connell
RB-Shonn Greene, Ladainian Tomlinson, Joe McKnight
FB-Tony Richardson, John Conner
WR-Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laverneus Coles, Brad Smith
TE-Dustin Keller, Ben Hartsock, Jeff Cumberland, Matthew Mulligan
OT-D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Wayne Hunter
OG-Matthew Slauson, Vlad Ducasse, Brandon Moore
OC-Nick Mangold, Rob Turner

DE-Shaun Ellis, Mike Devito, Vernon Gholston, Ropato Pitutia(put on IR now)
NT-Kris Jenkins, Sione Pouha

OLB-Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas, Jason Taylor, Jamaal Westerman
ILB-David Harris, Bart Scott, Kenwin Cummings, Lance Laury
CB-Darrelle Revis,Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson, Dwight Lowery,Drew Coleman
S-Jim Leonhard, Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, James Ihedigbo



I think that was what the depth chart was of the guys they plan to keep, with 2 extra spots for ST guys. But now there is a open spot on the DL since Pituatia who they planned to be a part of the DL rotation is out for season.

2 extra spots for ST guys are a battle between Larry Taylor (Westhoff seems to be trying to get him to be a return specialist for us), Danny Woodhead, David Clowney, Marcus Cole.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:36 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='26 August 2010 - 07:24 AM' timestamp='1282832699' post='308572']
So I guess this is what it was.

QB-Mark Sanchez, Mark Brunell, Kevin O'Connell
RB-Shonn Greene, Ladainian Tomlinson, Joe McKnight
FB-Tony Richardson, John Conner
WR-Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laverneus Coles, Brad Smith
TE-Dustin Keller, Ben Hartsock, Jeff Cumberland, Matthew Mulligan
OT-D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Wayne Hunter
OG-Matthew Slauson, Vlad Ducasse, Brandon Moore
OC-Nick Mangold, Rob Turner

DE-Shaun Ellis, Mike Devito, Vernon Gholston, Ropato Pitutia(put on IR now)
NT-Kris Jenkins, Sione Pouha

OLB-Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas, Jason Taylor, Jamaal Westerman
ILB-David Harris, Bart Scott, Kenwin Cummings, Lance Laury
CB-Darrelle Revis,Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson, Dwight Lowery,Drew Coleman
S-Jim Leonhard, Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, James Ihedigbo



I think that was what the depth chart was of the guys they plan to keep, with 2 extra spots for ST guys. But now there is a open spot on the DL since Pituatia who they planned to be a part of the DL rotation is out for season.

2 extra spots for ST guys are a battle between Larry Taylor (Westhoff seems to be trying to get him to be a return specialist for us), Danny Woodhead, David Clowney, Marcus Cole.
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Good analysis, but when we signed coles we told him he might not be here once holmes comes back so i think that clowny will keep his spot with the WRs looking like this

1st 4 weeks
BE
Cochery
Coles
Smith
Clowney

after that
BE
Holmes
Cochery
Smith
Clowney

Unless coles really puts up big numbers i don't think he's gonna stay
Get it done MT
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:05 AM

Woodhead plays like a Jet and ryan loves this guy but in the end Ryan said he is still to short and so is larry taylor.to me clowney is a bust.marcus cole stays on this list. it may be that they all get cut so tanny can grab some players off the wires which we all know he will.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:06 AM

Kroul had a pretty good game against Carolina. I think he'll be given a chance to earn the backup DE spot. Keep in mind that Adelius Thomas is a FA, a Rex favorite and a guy that can play DE in some packages.
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