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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:15 AM

Storylines for this week's episode of "Hard Knocks" focused on the New York Jets' fringe players, laying the groundwork for drama on final cutdown day in a couple weekends.

Most revealing from my perspective was the chance to eavesdrop on general manager Mike Tannenbaum and head coach Rex Ryan discussing their roster numbers. On a dry-erase board, Tannenbaum tried to do the math and gave a glimpse of what the 53-man roster will look like, more or less.

Next to the team's official depth chart, Tannenbaum scrawled out the number of players they plan to keep at each position, with the caveat they can adjust for special teams.

Offense (25 players):

* Three quarterbacks
* Five running backs
* Five wide receivers (including Santonio Holmes)
* Four tight ends
* Eight offensive linemen


Defense (23 players):

* Six defensive linemen
* Four outside linebackers
* Four inside linebackers
* Five cornerbacks (I think because I couldn't decipher the abbreviation)
* Four safeties (I think for the same reason)


Add a kicker, punter and long-snapper, and that's 51 players, leaving two special-teams spots for everybody else to fight over.

The show suggested the bubble players were running back Danny Woodhead, fullback Jason Davis, receivers David Clowney and Larry Taylor, tight end Matthew Mulligan and linebacker Lance Laury.

Injuries, of course, can impact the numbers. The breakdown was done before defensive end Ropati Pitoitua suffered a season-ending torn Achilles tendon in Saturday's preseason game against the Carolina Panthers.

Pitoitua's injury was significant for Rodrique Wright, who had an "X" next to his name on the depth chart, suggesting the Jets planned to cut him.

"Hey, you going to make this [expletive] team?" Ryan says to Wright on the sideline after learning of Pitoitua's injury. "This kid just tore his [expletive] Achilles. Or do I need to pick somebody else up?"

"Hard Knocks" revealed others with an "X" next to his name or a "PS" to indicate practice squad. A slow and up-close pan of all the unmarked name plates helped determine who had been designated in the shot of Tannenbaum sketching out the roster.

These were the other "X" players still on the roster I could decipher thanks to the high-def on my big-screen plasma: quarterback Kellen Clemens, running back Chauncey Washington, center Robby Felix, guard Marlon Davis and tackles Dan Gay and Michael Turkovich. An "X" also appeared next to a blank spot at fullback, suggesting Jason Davis.

These were the "PS" players: defensive linemen Matthew Kroul, Ty Steinkuhler and Martin Tevaseu and safety Emanuel Cook.

Also notable about the depth chart, rookie Vladimir Ducasse was above Matt Slauson at left guard. Shonn Greene was on top of LaDainian Tomlinson.

Not a lot of surprises, but interesting nevertheless.

Yet based on Ryan's comments about his third-stringers late in the 9-3 victory over the Panthers, there's plenty of room to make an impression over the final couple weeks.

"Guys, we're dead with this group. We have replacements?" Ryan says into his headset to his defensive assistants in the press box. Ryan's voice gets angrier. "Do we have any replacements? Get me the No. Twos out there! I'm not going to lose this [expletive] game! Give me the [expletive] Twos out there. Finish the [expletive] job!

"We're leaving the Twos out there if we have to. Finish the game. I don't give two [expletive]. Some of those guys can't play dead in a B western."

Washington, for example, went from having an "X" next to his name to receiving a game ball for a jarring hit on punt coverage and strong running.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/26612/knocks-reveals-jets-internal-depth-chart
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:24 AM

So I guess this is what it was.

QB-Mark Sanchez, Mark Brunell, Kevin O'Connell
RB-Shonn Greene, Ladainian Tomlinson, Joe McKnight
FB-Tony Richardson, John Conner
WR-Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laverneus Coles, Brad Smith
TE-Dustin Keller, Ben Hartsock, Jeff Cumberland, Matthew Mulligan
OT-D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Wayne Hunter
OG-Matthew Slauson, Vlad Ducasse, Brandon Moore
OC-Nick Mangold, Rob Turner

DE-Shaun Ellis, Mike Devito, Vernon Gholston, Ropato Pitutia(put on IR now)
NT-Kris Jenkins, Sione Pouha

OLB-Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas, Jason Taylor, Jamaal Westerman
ILB-David Harris, Bart Scott, Kenwin Cummings, Lance Laury
CB-Darrelle Revis,Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson, Dwight Lowery,Drew Coleman
S-Jim Leonhard, Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, James Ihedigbo



I think that was what the depth chart was of the guys they plan to keep, with 2 extra spots for ST guys. But now there is a open spot on the DL since Pituatia who they planned to be a part of the DL rotation is out for season.

2 extra spots for ST guys are a battle between Larry Taylor (Westhoff seems to be trying to get him to be a return specialist for us), Danny Woodhead, David Clowney, Marcus Cole.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:36 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='26 August 2010 - 07:24 AM' timestamp='1282832699' post='308572']
So I guess this is what it was.

QB-Mark Sanchez, Mark Brunell, Kevin O'Connell
RB-Shonn Greene, Ladainian Tomlinson, Joe McKnight
FB-Tony Richardson, John Conner
WR-Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laverneus Coles, Brad Smith
TE-Dustin Keller, Ben Hartsock, Jeff Cumberland, Matthew Mulligan
OT-D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Wayne Hunter
OG-Matthew Slauson, Vlad Ducasse, Brandon Moore
OC-Nick Mangold, Rob Turner

DE-Shaun Ellis, Mike Devito, Vernon Gholston, Ropato Pitutia(put on IR now)
NT-Kris Jenkins, Sione Pouha

OLB-Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas, Jason Taylor, Jamaal Westerman
ILB-David Harris, Bart Scott, Kenwin Cummings, Lance Laury
CB-Darrelle Revis,Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson, Dwight Lowery,Drew Coleman
S-Jim Leonhard, Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, James Ihedigbo



I think that was what the depth chart was of the guys they plan to keep, with 2 extra spots for ST guys. But now there is a open spot on the DL since Pituatia who they planned to be a part of the DL rotation is out for season.

2 extra spots for ST guys are a battle between Larry Taylor (Westhoff seems to be trying to get him to be a return specialist for us), Danny Woodhead, David Clowney, Marcus Cole.
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Good analysis, but when we signed coles we told him he might not be here once holmes comes back so i think that clowny will keep his spot with the WRs looking like this

1st 4 weeks
BE
Cochery
Coles
Smith
Clowney

after that
BE
Holmes
Cochery
Smith
Clowney

Unless coles really puts up big numbers i don't think he's gonna stay
Get it done MT
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:05 AM

Woodhead plays like a Jet and ryan loves this guy but in the end Ryan said he is still to short and so is larry taylor.to me clowney is a bust.marcus cole stays on this list. it may be that they all get cut so tanny can grab some players off the wires which we all know he will.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:06 AM

Kroul had a pretty good game against Carolina. I think he'll be given a chance to earn the backup DE spot. Keep in mind that Adelius Thomas is a FA, a Rex favorite and a guy that can play DE in some packages.
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