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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:15 AM

Storylines for this week's episode of "Hard Knocks" focused on the New York Jets' fringe players, laying the groundwork for drama on final cutdown day in a couple weekends.

Most revealing from my perspective was the chance to eavesdrop on general manager Mike Tannenbaum and head coach Rex Ryan discussing their roster numbers. On a dry-erase board, Tannenbaum tried to do the math and gave a glimpse of what the 53-man roster will look like, more or less.

Next to the team's official depth chart, Tannenbaum scrawled out the number of players they plan to keep at each position, with the caveat they can adjust for special teams.

Offense (25 players):

* Three quarterbacks
* Five running backs
* Five wide receivers (including Santonio Holmes)
* Four tight ends
* Eight offensive linemen


Defense (23 players):

* Six defensive linemen
* Four outside linebackers
* Four inside linebackers
* Five cornerbacks (I think because I couldn't decipher the abbreviation)
* Four safeties (I think for the same reason)


Add a kicker, punter and long-snapper, and that's 51 players, leaving two special-teams spots for everybody else to fight over.

The show suggested the bubble players were running back Danny Woodhead, fullback Jason Davis, receivers David Clowney and Larry Taylor, tight end Matthew Mulligan and linebacker Lance Laury.

Injuries, of course, can impact the numbers. The breakdown was done before defensive end Ropati Pitoitua suffered a season-ending torn Achilles tendon in Saturday's preseason game against the Carolina Panthers.

Pitoitua's injury was significant for Rodrique Wright, who had an "X" next to his name on the depth chart, suggesting the Jets planned to cut him.

"Hey, you going to make this [expletive] team?" Ryan says to Wright on the sideline after learning of Pitoitua's injury. "This kid just tore his [expletive] Achilles. Or do I need to pick somebody else up?"

"Hard Knocks" revealed others with an "X" next to his name or a "PS" to indicate practice squad. A slow and up-close pan of all the unmarked name plates helped determine who had been designated in the shot of Tannenbaum sketching out the roster.

These were the other "X" players still on the roster I could decipher thanks to the high-def on my big-screen plasma: quarterback Kellen Clemens, running back Chauncey Washington, center Robby Felix, guard Marlon Davis and tackles Dan Gay and Michael Turkovich. An "X" also appeared next to a blank spot at fullback, suggesting Jason Davis.

These were the "PS" players: defensive linemen Matthew Kroul, Ty Steinkuhler and Martin Tevaseu and safety Emanuel Cook.

Also notable about the depth chart, rookie Vladimir Ducasse was above Matt Slauson at left guard. Shonn Greene was on top of LaDainian Tomlinson.

Not a lot of surprises, but interesting nevertheless.

Yet based on Ryan's comments about his third-stringers late in the 9-3 victory over the Panthers, there's plenty of room to make an impression over the final couple weeks.

"Guys, we're dead with this group. We have replacements?" Ryan says into his headset to his defensive assistants in the press box. Ryan's voice gets angrier. "Do we have any replacements? Get me the No. Twos out there! I'm not going to lose this [expletive] game! Give me the [expletive] Twos out there. Finish the [expletive] job!

"We're leaving the Twos out there if we have to. Finish the game. I don't give two [expletive]. Some of those guys can't play dead in a B western."

Washington, for example, went from having an "X" next to his name to receiving a game ball for a jarring hit on punt coverage and strong running.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/26612/knocks-reveals-jets-internal-depth-chart
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:24 AM

So I guess this is what it was.

QB-Mark Sanchez, Mark Brunell, Kevin O'Connell
RB-Shonn Greene, Ladainian Tomlinson, Joe McKnight
FB-Tony Richardson, John Conner
WR-Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laverneus Coles, Brad Smith
TE-Dustin Keller, Ben Hartsock, Jeff Cumberland, Matthew Mulligan
OT-D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Wayne Hunter
OG-Matthew Slauson, Vlad Ducasse, Brandon Moore
OC-Nick Mangold, Rob Turner

DE-Shaun Ellis, Mike Devito, Vernon Gholston, Ropato Pitutia(put on IR now)
NT-Kris Jenkins, Sione Pouha

OLB-Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas, Jason Taylor, Jamaal Westerman
ILB-David Harris, Bart Scott, Kenwin Cummings, Lance Laury
CB-Darrelle Revis,Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson, Dwight Lowery,Drew Coleman
S-Jim Leonhard, Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, James Ihedigbo



I think that was what the depth chart was of the guys they plan to keep, with 2 extra spots for ST guys. But now there is a open spot on the DL since Pituatia who they planned to be a part of the DL rotation is out for season.

2 extra spots for ST guys are a battle between Larry Taylor (Westhoff seems to be trying to get him to be a return specialist for us), Danny Woodhead, David Clowney, Marcus Cole.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 09:36 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='26 August 2010 - 07:24 AM' timestamp='1282832699' post='308572']
So I guess this is what it was.

QB-Mark Sanchez, Mark Brunell, Kevin O'Connell
RB-Shonn Greene, Ladainian Tomlinson, Joe McKnight
FB-Tony Richardson, John Conner
WR-Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laverneus Coles, Brad Smith
TE-Dustin Keller, Ben Hartsock, Jeff Cumberland, Matthew Mulligan
OT-D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Wayne Hunter
OG-Matthew Slauson, Vlad Ducasse, Brandon Moore
OC-Nick Mangold, Rob Turner

DE-Shaun Ellis, Mike Devito, Vernon Gholston, Ropato Pitutia(put on IR now)
NT-Kris Jenkins, Sione Pouha

OLB-Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas, Jason Taylor, Jamaal Westerman
ILB-David Harris, Bart Scott, Kenwin Cummings, Lance Laury
CB-Darrelle Revis,Antonio Cromartie, Kyle Wilson, Dwight Lowery,Drew Coleman
S-Jim Leonhard, Eric Smith, Brodney Pool, James Ihedigbo



I think that was what the depth chart was of the guys they plan to keep, with 2 extra spots for ST guys. But now there is a open spot on the DL since Pituatia who they planned to be a part of the DL rotation is out for season.

2 extra spots for ST guys are a battle between Larry Taylor (Westhoff seems to be trying to get him to be a return specialist for us), Danny Woodhead, David Clowney, Marcus Cole.
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Good analysis, but when we signed coles we told him he might not be here once holmes comes back so i think that clowny will keep his spot with the WRs looking like this

1st 4 weeks
BE
Cochery
Coles
Smith
Clowney

after that
BE
Holmes
Cochery
Smith
Clowney

Unless coles really puts up big numbers i don't think he's gonna stay
Get it done MT
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:05 AM

Woodhead plays like a Jet and ryan loves this guy but in the end Ryan said he is still to short and so is larry taylor.to me clowney is a bust.marcus cole stays on this list. it may be that they all get cut so tanny can grab some players off the wires which we all know he will.
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Posted 26 August 2010 - 10:06 AM

Kroul had a pretty good game against Carolina. I think he'll be given a chance to earn the backup DE spot. Keep in mind that Adelius Thomas is a FA, a Rex favorite and a guy that can play DE in some packages.
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