NYJetsFan.com Forums: Not Really Feeling To Good About This Season - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Not Really Feeling To Good About This Season

#1 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,145
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:10 PM

I've been away from the site for a few days. Getting in some much needed R&R. However I've watched the preseason games and have been keeping close watch on the team. I gotta tell ya, the dark reality of a mediocre season seems to be closing in. I'm really not sure what's happening but maybe all this hype and attention the Jets have been getting is making things worse. Lets cut right to it, the offense look absolutely disgusting (for the exception of L.T and Greene). The running game looks real good, L.T looks like the L.T of old and Greene always running with force. Unfortunately the offensive arieal attack is just in shambles. Mark looks lost out there. He's holding on to the ball, the pass pro has been leaky. This offense looks like it's going to be our downfall again this year. All 3 of these games have been absolutely atrocious. I'm almost in panic mode.

The defense has been playing well of course but the loss of Pace is going to hurt (maybe not as much as others think it will) but it will hurt. Not having Revis signed yet scares me. Although in the back of my mind I think Cro and Wilson can handle the job. Mind you, with Revis out there were clearly better but I think we can still kick ass without him. Rex's defense gets pressure quick and forces early throws, that helps the corners. It's a catch 22 back there really.

My concern is with Sanchez, B. Schott and this offense. Sanchez looks like he really hasn't improved. He looks the same as he did last year and I know he's trying and I know he wants to be great but the forseeable future doesn't look all that great.

I don't know what it is. Maybe the Jets are just out there playing around in the preseason and not wanting to show their hand (but I argue that thought because of how Pissed Rex gets when he loses preseason games) Rex wants to win at all times, makes me believe that "they" (the offense) is out there looking to really get after it. It looks bleak right now. These other teams out there are scoring points, their getting the ball in the endzone, we are struggling A LOT more then I would have thought.

I remain cautiously optimistic. However these problems

- Revis
- the offense
- Pace

are really simmering my excitement.

0

#2 User is offline   gmany3k Icon

  • Old Timer
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8,302
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:AUSTIN,TX MALE member 2000-01

  • NFL Team:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:18 PM

Go get more R&R . the players , the vets and most of the ex players are telling you to remember that its the preseason and everything is as you know vanilla . we will run the ball as planned and let the passing game complement the offense . Our defense and special teams will keep us in the game while the offense revs up. Revis is taking laps around the Island .
21ST CENTURY NEW YORK STATE OF MIND ."REST IN PEACE NIGHT OWL TOM"Use Caution when reading my comments>.Posted Image
0

#3 User is offline   Jetsman05 Icon

  • Patron Saint of ESPNU
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 7,049
  • Joined: 17-July 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Carolina
  • Interests:Jets, Gators, Liverpool, Lightning

  • NFL Team:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:56 PM

2 things...

We can still run the ball.

We can still play good defense.

So we might not win in great fashion, but we can still grind out football games until Sanchez gets it going.
0

#4 User is offline   gmany3k Icon

  • Old Timer
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8,302
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:AUSTIN,TX MALE member 2000-01

  • NFL Team:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:56 PM


[b]Specials Teams: 'Welcome to the Lion's Den'[/b]
By Nick Gallo

Posted Aug 28, 2010

[list][*][url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-1/Specials-Teams-Welcome-to-the-Lions-Den/19cc87f8-2d2c-4ee1-8e68-10ede19f7997#"]a[/url][*][url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-1/Specials-Teams-Welcome-to-the-Lions-Den/19cc87f8-2d2c-4ee1-8e68-10ede19f7997#"]a[/url][/list] As smoke filled the area in front of the New York Jets’ tunnel at New Meadowlands Stadium, Jets safety [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/james-ihedigbo/5ed3ff24-e850-4da2-bf21-ea7d95fc8b5f/"]James Ihedigbo[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] shot out like a bullet with the intensity and excitement that would be warranted for a playoff game, not the third preseason game. A key part of the Jets’ special teams unit, Ihedigbo raced to midfield and looked over to the [url="http://www.redskins.com/"]Washington Redskins[/url]’ sideline.

“It’s a mentality that you’re going to be begging for us to call the dogs off,” Ihedigbo said. “You’re walking into the lion's den. We’re the team you don’t want to play any Sunday. Just telling them they don’t know what they’ve gotten themselves into.”

Just minutes after that, Ihedigbo made the opening tackle of the game on the Redskins’ kickoff return.

Throughout the Jets' 16-11 loss to the Redskins on Friday night, while the Jets’ offense played inconsistently, the special teams were as impactful as the first defense. After another big tackle by Ihedigbo, [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/brad-smith/767d841f-fff8-4608-a22e-a42ba2fba78e/"]Brad Smith[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] and [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/marquice-cole/1396fed0-fa88-4e93-bb76-de280a41465b/"]Marquice Cole[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] caused Redskins punt returner Brandon Banks to fumble.

“I feel like we played pretty well today,” Cole said. “We had our assignments down and executed pretty well. That’s the plan, that’s what you go out there for. You try to make plays, and I think we’ve been doing a pretty good job of making plays.”

Cole, a cornerback who will be looking to make an impact both in dime packages on defense and as a flyer on the punt coverage unit, was all over the place. He got down the field and downed punter [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/steve-weatherford/70de394a-f910-423a-a67b-37a806410f90/"]Steve Weatherford[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url]’s Aussie-rules-style drop punt inside the 10-yard line, and came from behind to help knock the ball away from Banks on the fumble. Third-year defensive lineman [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/vernon-gholston/be5e85d7-6072-403c-ae16-191f755f0bf3/"]Vernon Gholston[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] was there to recover the fumble and give the Jets offense great field position.

“When we’re out there on the punt return we have to work together,” Gholston said. “I saw they were going with a wall return and I was trying to get to the outside of the wall. The rest of the guys came in swarming, they got to the ballcarrier and he dropped it out and at that point I was in position to scoop it up.”

That fumble recovery is one of five turnovers that the Jets special teams have caused in three games, and the rest of their unit has been hemming in the opposition as well. Against the Redskins the Jets held kickoff returners to 13.3 yards per return. Weatherford had two inside-the-10 punts and almost had a third if Cole had been able to corral one of his difficult wobblers. Regardless, the special teams is forming an identity of its own.

“We have this high-powered offense, high-powered defense,” Ihedigbo said. “How’s special teams going to be? We’re proving that this preseason. The regular season hasn’t even started and we’re only going to get better. Guys are going to go down and make plays and set the tone for the game.”

Many of the players on special teams will make an impact for the offense and defense, including wide receiver Brad Smith and running back [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/joe-mcknight/82f0bb7b-4bae-4c62-973f-0a7a0667d2f4/"]Joe McKnight[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url]. Smith returned four kickoffs for an average of 23 yards on each return and a long of 29, while McKnight took a punt return 27 yards, all the way to the Washington 31.

“We played OK,” Smith said. “There’s a certain level that we expect from ourselves as far as intensity and making plays. We were able to do a few things but there are things we need to clean up. But overall I think we had a pretty good day. I’m sure Coach Westhoff is going to find some things for us to correct when we get in the film room.”

All of these players have ways in which they can improve. In the locker room McKnight was more focused on a fumble he had on offense than the exciting punt return he had. There are highs and lows for all aspects of the game but especially on special teams, where players are in the spotlight for only a few plays each game. It’s the special teams’ job to put a stamp on each contest early and often.

“This game is an emotional rollercoaster, it’s a physical game,” Ihedigbo said. “It's coming out and setting the tone of the game. It’s intimidating when you see a group of guys that gather together, are motivated together and are ready to go to bat for each other. That can be intimidating to another team. We strive for that, to be a dominant force.”



21ST CENTURY NEW YORK STATE OF MIND ."REST IN PEACE NIGHT OWL TOM"Use Caution when reading my comments>.Posted Image
0

#5 User is offline   gmany3k Icon

  • Old Timer
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8,302
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:AUSTIN,TX MALE member 2000-01

  • NFL Team:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:57 PM

Hope this lifts your spirits Shane.
21ST CENTURY NEW YORK STATE OF MIND ."REST IN PEACE NIGHT OWL TOM"Use Caution when reading my comments>.Posted Image
0

#6 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,113
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:12 PM

I don't panic based on preseason games, sure it would of been nice if the offense did good passing the ball, but it doesn't mean they will be the same as last year. They might start off slow, but once week 5 comes and Holmes is back ,this offense has too many passing weapons to be AS bad as last year.

Tim Hasselbeck says he sees improvements with Sanchez, but also sees him reverting to bad things he did last year, he wants Mark to be more consistent.

Another thing, our OL protection hasn't been great. The hope with that is when they do start game planning they will be putting protection schemes based on the team we are playing against.

Oh and the Redskins/Panthers both had top 10 defenses last year. Vs the Redskins they were moving the ball on them, just kept making mistakes.

2 weeks until the Ravens game, hopefully they can get better and execute the game plan enough to win the ball game.
Posted Image
0

#7 User is offline   reg83ny Icon

  • TMZ Correspondent
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 4,578
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Beantown...I missed NY

  • MLB:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:49 PM

[b]The only thing to cheer about was the Manning hit. Ever since then, its been a boring team. I'm starting blame HBO now. It wouldn't bother one bit if the jets didn't get the show. Just Hope they don't all catch the Kerry Rhodes disease. [/b]
0

#8 User is offline   ken Icon

  • Free Agent
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 13
  • Joined: 29-August 10

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:46 PM

well i dont worry too much about it after all, the jets according to rex, dont game plan in the preseason. We can be in trouble however if revis doesn't return because the defense have to adjust from playing half the field to playing the whole field.


0

#9 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,314
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 03:14 AM

[quote name='ken' date='29 August 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1283136401' post='308736']
well i dont worry too much about it after all, [b]the jets according to rex, dont game plan in the preseason[/b]. We can be in trouble however if revis doesn't return because the defense have to adjust from playing half the field to playing the whole field.
[/quote]

That there is why I'm not worried. There is no game plan for the offense and I don't want them to give any of our first couple of opponents (the Ravens, and Patriots) an early preview of anything Shotty and Sanchez plan on doing early in the season. Plus Sanchez hasn't been [i]that[/i] bad in this preseason. In his last drive in the Redskins game he did drive the team down the field for a touchdown. There were a few times last season when Sanchez played bad in the first half and then played much better in the second half. So I'm not that worried. I just hope the o-line holds up and stays healthy.

The most important parts of this team has played very well in the preseason, the defense and running game. That's our bread and butter and that is what we're going to need to play well especially late in the season and hopefully through the playoffs. When the air is colder and the winds are stronger it's the defense and running attack that's going to matter the most.

I'm more worried about the team staying relatively healthy and the kicking game. I still don't trust Folk and I don't buy the "he was injured last year" excuse for his bad play in Dallas. I'm really worried about the kicking game.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
0

#10 User is offline   Goodfellaz Icon

  • Special Teams
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 348
  • Joined: 28-September 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NJ

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:34 AM

Preseason doesn't mean much. 1st team defense gets a chance to hit people and the rest of it is just to see where our depth is good or a problem. The Colts haven't won more than 1 preseason game a year since 2005. They're actually 4-21 since '05. Worked out pretty good for them during the regular season though.
Posted Image
0

#11 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,145
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:41 AM

[quote name='gmany3k' date='29 August 2010 - 08:18 PM' timestamp='1283127514' post='308724']
Go get more R&R . the players ,[size="4"] the vets and most of the ex players are telling you to remember that its the preseason and everything is as you know vanilla[/size] . we will run the ball as planned and let the passing game complement the offense . Our defense and special teams will keep us in the game while the offense revs up. Revis is taking laps around the Island .
[/quote]

See this is what scares me. If Mark is facing Vanilla coverages now in the preseason and he's struggling then whats going to happen in the reg season?.. I know it's preseason and I know everyone is saying "well it's all good, it's just the preseason" but if your a coach or player on this team you have to a little uneasy from what you've seen so far.

0

#12 User is offline   Goodfellaz Icon

  • Special Teams
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 348
  • Joined: 28-September 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NJ

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:04 AM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='30 August 2010 - 10:41 AM' timestamp='1283179299' post='308751']
See this is what scares me. If Mark is facing Vanilla coverages now in the preseason and he's struggling then whats going to happen in the reg season?.. I know it's preseason and I know everyone is saying "well it's all good, it's just the preseason" but if your a coach or player on this team you have to a little uneasy from what you've seen so far.
[/quote]

Remember what Namath was talking to Sanchez about on Hard Knocks? That Santonio wasn't running the route hard in the film they were watching? He said there's a speed difference between practice and games. Preseason is basically practice so I doubt all of our receivers that have made the squad are running perfect routes. Mark has been playing with the 1's, not the guys busting their ass to try and grab a roster spot. None of the Giants core receivers did anything in the game with Eli. Then Victor Cruz comes out and looks like Jerry Rice. Mark hasn't had many open receivers to throw to....I think that'll change when games mean something.
Posted Image
0

#13 User is offline   Camenzind Icon

  • Pro Bowl
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 442
  • Joined: 19-October 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:40 PM

[quote name='S-Dubb' date='30 August 2010 - 10:41 AM' timestamp='1283179299' post='308751']
See this is what scares me. If Mark is facing Vanilla coverages now in the preseason and he's struggling then whats going to happen in the reg season?.. I know it's preseason and I know everyone is saying "well it's all good, it's just the preseason" but if your a coach or player on this team you have to a little uneasy from what you've seen so far.
[/quote]
I concur. Sanchez is flat out indecisive. Watch Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers. Watch them go through their progressions. They know EXACTLY where to go with the ball.

Sanchez does not. While I do not expect him to ever be as good as one of the aforementioned quarterbacks, he needs to demonstrate some growth and maturity. Look at the interception he threw against the Redskins. Come on! If you want to be a playoff caliber quarterback, you need to make better decisions than that. And I don't want to read, "it's only preseason."
0

#14 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,145
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:00 PM

I mean I don't care if it's in warm-ups, you don't throw into double coverage (see DeAngelo Hall interception) no matter how important or unimportant the game is. In the Giants game Mark looked really good, you saw signs of growth. Now maybe there is something we don't know. Maybe they were working on something. I don't have the answers but I know when things aren't right. I definitely don't want to go through the same problems he went through last year, especially in year 2.

0

#15 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,489
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:04 PM

[quote name='Camenzind' date='30 August 2010 - 06:40 PM' timestamp='1283208025' post='308791']
I concur. Sanchez is flat out indecisive. Watch Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers. Watch them go through their progressions. They know EXACTLY where to go with the ball.

Sanchez does not. While I do not expect him to ever be as good as one of the aforementioned quarterbacks, he needs to demonstrate some growth and maturity. Look at the interception he threw against the Redskins. Come on! If you want to be a playoff caliber quarterback, you need to make better decisions than that. And I don't want to read, "it's only preseason."
[/quote]

Cmon man. The 4 QBs you mentioned are the pinnacle of their profession. Remember, Sanchez left USC after only a year of playing. Last year was basically his SR college year. He's still very very raw. Also, his role on this team is basically a "care taker". Our defense is our better unit. The offense's job is to dominate the TOP, grind out 14 points per game, and not turn the ball over. That's it. Sanchez won't have to shoulder the load until the playoffs.
0

#16 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,113
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:17 PM

It took Brees and Rivers years to get to where they are. Rivers sat on the bench for 2 years and Brees struggled his first 3 years enough for them to draft Rivers before he broke out.

Peyton Manning is not someone you want to compare with, hes maybe the best QB of all time.

Brady sat year 1 and came in year 2 and managed the game. He played within the system but wasn't a spectacular QB until a few years in his career.

It takes time for a QB to develop, which sucks for Mark as he doesn't have time, hes the LEAST experienced QB to come and start day 1 in NFL history. He was thrown onto a playoff team and is expected to play like a veteran. He has more pressure on him than the other rookie QB drafted, they are allowed to have struggles since their teams aren't good, Mark is considered a bust by a lot of people because he threw 20 INTs while on a team that had the #1 rushing attack and defense. He is not a experienced QB, it will take years for him to reach his potential and he doesn't have time to get his game down.


Basically we need to get Revis on this team because our defense has to be good enough to win games for this team and be special. Mark needs to cut his turnovers down and play within the system. Our WRs once Holmes comes back are great, he'll have opportunites with these guys to make plays.

I will wait until the season to judge him, I hate judging things based on preseason.
Posted Image
0

#17 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,314
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:41 PM

I really believe you guys are looking for problems where there are no problems. Even with the addition of LT and Holmes I never expected this offense to suddenly look like the 1999 Rams. f*** what Mr. Dome and Gloom said. This is preseason. Again, this is preseason. Look at what Sam Bradford did against the Patriots. Either Belicheat's defense is really going to suck this year or Sam Bradford is already one of the top 5 QBs in the NFL.

Once there is a GAMEPLAN and the offense develops a PLAN to attack their opponent with for that week's game, the offense (in this case the passing game) will look much better. Football is a game all about strategy. There is no strategy in a preseason game. Preseason is basically a game of Madden with real people.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
0

#18 User is offline   C l u t c H 385 Icon

  • Line Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 712
  • Joined: 21-February 07

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:28 PM

[quote name='ken' date='29 August 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1283136401' post='308736']
the jets . . . dont game plan in the preseason.
[/quote]

Nor do the other teams.
Posted Image
0

#19 User is offline   gmany3k Icon

  • Old Timer
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8,302
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:AUSTIN,TX MALE member 2000-01

  • NFL Team:

Posted 31 August 2010 - 09:10 AM

I agree with my Foe Mr. Jet .
21ST CENTURY NEW YORK STATE OF MIND ."REST IN PEACE NIGHT OWL TOM"Use Caution when reading my comments>.Posted Image
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users