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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Gholston Is Confident The Wait Is Finally Over

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:56 AM

[size="4"][quote]Gholston Is Confident the Wait Is Finally Over

By GREG BISHOP
Published: August 28, 2010


EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — At the beginning of his third N.F.L. season, Vernon Gholston has never felt so comfortable, aggressive, primed. When he acknowledged that late Friday, though, he leaned forward, eyes on his locker. He spoke firmly, but also sheepishly, as if he wanted to knock on wood.

This is not Gholston’s first trip down the avenue of expectations so far unfilled. He was the sixth overall pick in the 2008 N.F.L. draft, a nonfactor through two seasons, a college defensive end turned outside linebacker turned back into a defensive lineman in the spring.

Each year, the Jets predicted Gholston would break out — including this one. He has rewarded the franchise with 30 tackles — in two seasons.

Still, all parties think (again) that this year will be different, that the beast that seems so obvious in Gholston’s frame, with biceps that look like swollen grapefruit and a torso that resembles an oversize V, will finally emerge.

“I’ve got momentum,” Gholston said. “Now, it’s about putting it all together.”

The Jets had just lost, 16-11, to visiting Washington in their third preseason game when Gholston exited the showers behind most of his teammates. Earlier Friday, he recorded a quarterback hit and recovered a muffed punt, and added two tackles for good measure.

All preseason, HBO had featured Gholston as a story line on “Hard Knocks,” and this performance surely provided more fodder for next week’s episode. But it also came with a disclaimer in that the Jets, Coach Rex Ryan and Gholston have all claimed progress in seasons past. Yet here they are again, perhaps for the final time.

Gholston calmly traced the problems in his first two seasons. In his rookie year, he struggled adapting to the N.F.L. At Ohio State, he had dominated rushing quarterbacks from the end position, but the Jets preferred to work Gholston as a pass-rush specialist from outside linebacker.

In his second season, Ryan made Gholston his pet project, but even with Ryan’s defensive acumen, Gholston had little impact. Gholston said the new system and the new coaching staff delayed his progress.

In the spring, Ryan moved Gholston back to defensive end, which made sense for both parties. The Jets’ depth at that position remains thin, and Gholston seems to be more comfortable there.

“This year, I’m familiar with the system,” he said. “I know what’s going on. I’m playing with more confidence.”

Gholston said that started with a change in mind-set. He felt that he was still learning in previous seasons, which prohibited him from playing at full speed. This year, he decided to attack, no matter what.

Shaun Ellis, the longest-tenured Jet and the player Gholston sits behind on the depth chart, provided advice on different types of blocks by offensive tackles. Jason Taylor mentored Gholston on pass-rushing techniques, which is like getting a computer lesson from Paul Allen. Coaches helped, too, Ryan in particular.

The better Gholston played, the more people he heard from. They called him after “Hard Knocks” revealed that Ryan had engineered the fight between him and offensive lineman Rob Turner, the resident hockey goon. In that practice, the mild-mannered Gholston threw Turner to the ground like a paperweight. Gholston guessed Friday that his “super strength” had kicked in.

He remains an intriguing figure. Because of the bulging biceps. Because of the signs of progress. Because of Ryan’s influence. Because of the possibilities, as always.

Gholston approached the Jets this off-season and volunteered to take a pay cut. Now, with linebacker Calvin Pace expected to miss what Ryan predicted would be a few weeks with a foot injury, Gholston could see time at his old position and his new one.

Regardless, he does not plan to back down. Not to Turner, not to increased expectations, not to anyone. Again.[/quote][/size]
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:59 AM

This will be the year that Gholston finally gets a sack?
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:02 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='30 August 2010 - 11:59 AM' timestamp='1283183959' post='308757']
This will be the year that Gholston finally gets a sack?
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Lets start with contributing.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:25 AM

Gholston will have more sacks than Misi.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:45 AM

[quote name='SecondHandJets' date='30 August 2010 - 12:25 PM' timestamp='1283185500' post='308759']
Gholston will have more sacks than Misi.
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"If Misi goes in the 2nd round, I'll kill myself"

Why are you still posting, SHJ?
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:54 AM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='30 August 2010 - 12:45 PM' timestamp='1283186725' post='308763']
"If Misi goes in the 2nd round, I'll kill myself"

Why are you still posting, SHJ?
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I wrote that? I don't remember writing that... I remember being shocked about him going that early but killing myself? Sounds a little screwy.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 12:11 PM

[quote name='SecondHandJets' date='30 August 2010 - 12:54 PM' timestamp='1283187274' post='308764']
I wrote that? I don't remember writing that... I remember being shocked about him going that early but killing myself? Sounds a little screwy.
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Eh... it was something along those lines.

Maybe it was wishful thinking on my part, though.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:22 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='30 August 2010 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1283184131' post='308758']
Lets start with contributing.
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LOL, no doubt. Contribute and contribute often please......The Jets need no slackers.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 02:36 PM

Year 3. Gee it's like I've been saying that the past 3 years...

If Gholston does not produce while on the field this year he's officially a bust. Nothing he's done prior to this year matters. He's overpaid and was over hyped. Doesn't matter if he continues to make plays like he has been and even picks up a few sacks. I will greatly enjoy being right.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 02:52 PM

By the way, I'm pretty sure he isn't over paid anymore (although his play in the past makes any paycheck going his way make him seem overpaid)
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:33 PM

[quote name='CoachasaurusREX' date='30 August 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1283197005' post='308776']
Year 3. Gee it's like I've been saying that the past 3 years...

If Gholston does not produce while on the field this year he's officially a bust. Nothing he's done prior to this year matters. He's overpaid and was over hyped. Doesn't matter if he continues to make plays like he has been and even picks up a few sacks. [b]I will greatly enjoy being right.[/b]
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maybe i'm not reading this post properly, but to clarify, you'll enjoy being right about Gholston not being good this year?

if anything, that should make you NOT enjoy being right. douche. way to stick by your team you fairweather turd.

i'll enjoy you being wrong.




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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:53 PM

[quote name='Swissle' date='30 August 2010 - 06:33 PM' timestamp='1283207610' post='308790']
maybe i'm not reading this post properly, but to clarify, you'll enjoy being right about Gholston not being good this year?

if anything, that should make you NOT enjoy being right. douche. way to stick by your team you fairweather turd.

i'll enjoy you being wrong.
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WTF? He's saying that all this time, he knew that Gholston would start contributing in Year 3. He'll enjoy being right about Gholston finally being something more than a punchline. While most of us had Gholston written off, this dude kept on and on about Year 3. Now he's trying to say that we were all Chicken Little, and he was the voice of reason.
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 04:18 AM

[quote name='SecondHandJets' date='30 August 2010 - 08:53 PM' timestamp='1283216035' post='308794']
WTF? He's saying that all this time, he knew that Gholston would start contributing in Year 3. He'll enjoy being right about Gholston finally being something more than a punchline. While most of us had Gholston written off, this dude kept on and on about Year 3. Now he's trying to say that we were all Chicken Little, and he was the voice of reason.
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whoops...my bad. after further review, i retract my previous statement, apologize for the lil jab there...and will completely agree with what he said about Gholston.

ma bad bro namath.




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Posted 31 August 2010 - 08:34 AM

[quote name='Swissle' date='31 August 2010 - 04:18 AM' timestamp='1283246323' post='308812']
whoops...my bad. after further review, i retract my previous statement, apologize for the lil jab there...and will completely agree with what he said about Gholston.

ma bad bro namath.
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Lol I was like "is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?"

It's all good man, I'm not really sure if I was 100% clear, but my point was made. Seriously though all I've done this preseason was follow him while on the field and he definitely is making plays, pushing the line, following the play, and most importantly is not completely lost in his assignments. I'm not saying he is a beast, but he will make some plays for this team: I believe it.
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