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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:29 AM

Slauson is clearly better than vlad right now. But is he good enough? If sanchez goes down because our LG ole's someone bye, we got even more serious issues. Brunell vs Clemens (we'll tackle that when it happens). Every is worried about the offense , how bout the offense without sanchez?
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:58 AM

were fine, 1 "weak link" between an all pro LT and an all pro C isn't gonna kill us.
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:25 AM

heh sounds like someone is letting hard knocks get to their head
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:49 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='02 September 2010 - 11:58 AM' timestamp='1283443103' post='308834']
were fine, 1 "weak link" between an all pro LT and an all pro C isn't gonna kill us.
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Really? Are you not a fan of the team that had a revolving door at LG not too long ago?

Remember Adrien Clarke stepping in for the eerily similar to Faneca, Pete Kendall?

If memory serves, didn't Adrien Clarke play turnstile for Richard Seymour and get one of our QB's smacked into the turf? Pennington or Clemens I can't remember...

I don't think having Slauson there is as bad as Clarke, but really? You're really going to say that?
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:58 PM

[i]I think he meant " one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch Girl"[/i]
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:07 PM

[quote name='HurricaneJet32' date='02 September 2010 - 01:49 PM' timestamp='1283449773' post='308841']
Really? Are you not a fan of the team that had a revolving door at LG not too long ago?

Remember Adrien Clarke stepping in for the eerily similar to Faneca, Pete Kendall?

If memory serves, didn't Adrien Clarke play turnstile for Richard Seymour and get one of our QB's smacked into the turf? Pennington or Clemens I can't remember...

I don't think having Slauson there is as bad as Clarke, but really? You're really going to say that?
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Uh, I think Adrien Clarke was lined up next to Brick (only his 2nd season I think) and Mangold (only second season, too I think) and I also think on the other side was a younger Moore and Anthony Clement? I could be completely wrong but I think that's how it was in 2007.

I tend to agree with 115 here. Playing next to someone like Brick and Mangold, two outstanding pass blockers will help him. Whoever wins the guard job (Slausen) is going to be good against the run and need to catch up against the pass... no one better to do that with then Mangold and Brick.

I think offensive guard is the most overrated position in football, only recently with schemes like we've used with Faneca have they really become known/needed.

I don't have any worries with our left guard position. None. It isn't a make or break position on the offensive line at all.
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:37 PM

Here is the thing about the OL, can't go too much into the preseason with pass protection because they didn't game plan. They will game plan their protection based on how teams attack.

Slauson had some nice blocks in the run game, his pass protection could use work but we will see how this plays out over the season.


BTW I watched the Cardinals game and Faneca looked TERRIBLE. He was really getting owned out there. The thing we need is Slauson being able to do that pull blocking that Faneca was GREAT at, from the little I saw in preseason he made some nice blocks at it, we'll see.
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:40 PM

probable we will run left to give the kid confidence and also have protection help from conner./ richardson
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:47 PM

[quote name='HurricaneJet32' date='02 September 2010 - 10:49 AM' timestamp='1283449773' post='308841']
Really? Are you not a fan of the team that had a revolving door at LG not too long ago?

Remember Adrien Clarke stepping in for the eerily similar to Faneca, Pete Kendall?

If memory serves, didn't Adrien Clarke play turnstile for Richard Seymour and get one of our QB's smacked into the turf? Pennington or Clemens I can't remember...

I don't think having Slauson there is as bad as Clarke, but really? You're really going to say that?
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I'm 25 and been a jet fan all my life lol, with that said clarke didn't play next to a top 3 LT and best C in the game. He was next to 2 up and coming players in the 2nd year. and brick was struggling his 1st two years don't forget. plus on the right side we had clement at RT and he sucked too. so we had a bad RT, Bad LG, 2nd year C, 2nd year struggling LT, and solid RG. Moore was probably our best o-lineman at that point.

Now we have Best C, top 3 LT, Solid RG and RT and moore is our 4th best lineman Huge diference

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 September 2010 - 11:07 AM' timestamp='1283450867' post='308846']
Uh, I think Adrien Clarke was lined up next to Brick (only his 2nd season I think) and Mangold (only second season, too I think) and I also think on the other side was a younger Moore and Anthony Clement? I could be completely wrong but I think that's how it was in 2007.

I tend to agree with 115 here. Playing next to someone like Brick and Mangold, two outstanding pass blockers will help him. Whoever wins the guard job (Slausen) is going to be good against the run and need to catch up against the pass... no one better to do that with then Mangold and Brick.

I think offensive guard is the most overrated position in football, only recently with schemes like we've used with Faneca have they really become known/needed.

I don't have any worries with our left guard position. None. It isn't a make or break position on the offensive line at all.
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Exactly. Moore was a undrafted free agent DT that we converted into a G through the practice squad and NFL europe. The most importnat o-line positions are LT and C and were set there for the next 6 years barring injury, then RT , then the guards.
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:56 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan0099' date='02 September 2010 - 02:37 PM' timestamp='1283452678' post='308850']
Here is the thing about the OL, can't go too much into the preseason with pass protection because they didn't game plan. They will game plan their protection based on how teams attack.

Slauson had some nice blocks in the run game, his pass protection could use work but we will see how this plays out over the season.


BTW I watched the Cardinals game and Faneca looked TERRIBLE. He was really getting owned out there. The thing we need is Slauson being able to do that pull blocking that Faneca was GREAT at, from the little I saw in preseason he made some nice blocks at it, we'll see.
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Yeah. Faneca's athleticism and ability to pull and really get out there and block was second to none. Slauson won't be asked to do that as much, but he's more adept to it then big Vlad, that's for sure.
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:19 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 September 2010 - 12:56 PM' timestamp='1283457369' post='308856']
Yeah. Faneca's athleticism and ability to pull and really get out there and block was second to none. Slauson won't be asked to do that as much, but he's more adept to it then big Vlad, that's for sure.
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Faneca had a great career, but he was declining and were short on money. even though there is no cap, all the teams are acting like there is a cap in place. Its why gholston took a pay cut, and why coles got cut, and clemens took a pay cut. We just shelled out 18 million a year to brick and mangold for the next 6 years and we offered revis 12.2 mil a year too.
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 04:01 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='02 September 2010 - 04:19 PM' timestamp='1283458756' post='308857']
Faneca had a great career, but he was declining and were short on money. even though there is no cap, all the teams are acting like there is a cap in place. Its why gholston took a pay cut, and why coles got cut, and clemens took a pay cut. We just shelled out 18 million a year to brick and mangold for the next 6 years and we offered revis 12.2 mil a year too.
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I don't need the Faneca thing to be explained to me. I actually mentioned it around here well before he was released and I was in complete favor of releasing him. I'm not sold on what we replaced with, but as I have said numerous times (something SHJ can't understand) I do not rate guards. I'd never pay one big money, I'd never draft one in the top 3 rounds either. I want two bookend tackles, a good center who can keep the offensive line together and I'll be fine.
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Posted 02 September 2010 - 04:22 PM

[quote name='Jetsman05' date='02 September 2010 - 02:01 PM' timestamp='1283461292' post='308860']
I don't need the Faneca thing to be explained to me. I actually mentioned it around here well before he was released and I was in complete favor of releasing him. I'm not sold on what we replaced with, but as I have said numerous times (something SHJ can't understand) I do not rate guards. I'd never pay one big money, I'd never draft one in the top 3 rounds either. I want two bookend tackles, a good center who can keep the offensive line together and I'll be fine.
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Guards aren't that important in comparison i agree. if you look at our line it was built the right way

LT - drafted 4th overall
LG - drafted 6th round
C - drafted 26th overall
RG - undrafted free agent
RT - Free agent signing (former 1st rounder)

Thats the ideal way to build your line right there
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