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azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (09 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (09 October 2015 - 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) jets and giants players hang out all the time
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 AM) i'm sure they dont care lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:24 AM) well bills won, we need a win this week to stay inn 2nd
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) at least miami is pretty much done but we have to compete with NE and buffalo still
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) as santana said, it's probably all in fun. most of these guys in the NFL are friends with players form other teams. I'm sure some jets/giants players are friends with each other
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Posted 05 September 2010 - 05:34 PM

[b]Szott's There to Help Jets Young and Old[/b]
By Nick Gallo

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[list][*][url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-1/Szotts-There-to-Help-Jets-Young-and-Old/718f4b36-12a9-40c1-ae95-64bedb1a9d4a#"]a[/url][*][url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-1/Szotts-There-to-Help-Jets-Young-and-Old/718f4b36-12a9-40c1-ae95-64bedb1a9d4a#"]a[/url][/list] The rain was pouring down outside the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center, so the Jets were holding practice on the turf inside their fieldhouse. As pads clashed and helmets crunched during running drills, suddenly the action stopped as rookie guard Charlie Tanner crashed to the ground — with a teammate or two accidentally falling on top of him.

It was clear Tanner was hurt, and no one moved to his aid faster than Dave Szott.

“I spend a tremendous amount of time with each rookie class,” said Szott, the Jets' director of player development. “We spend literally every day from the time they show up in mid-May to the time they leave in July, about seven or eight weeks there, where every day we have some type of programing. So I know these guys really, really well.”

Szott has the gameballs he received during his 14-year NFL career displayed in his office to remind the players he mentors that he, too, was in the same position as they. From getting rookies set up with their first apartments to advising older veterans when and how to retire, Szott has a major impact on the lives of each player who steps through the Jets’ doors in Florham Park, N.J.

“Szott is a great guy,” tight end [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/dustin-keller/32815cea-99f2-4f61-8b67-c6ca04e4612c/"]Dustin Keller[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] said. “He’s kind of the jack of all trades around here. Anything you need, he’s there to help you out. No matter what time it is, he’s always there. It doesn’t matter if you’re Sanchez being the fifth pick or an undrafted guy. He treats everybody the same and he’ll go above and beyond to do anything for these guys.”

Tanner’s pain is something Szott could understand, since he suffered injuries during his career as well, including during his time as a Jet from 2002-03. After spending 11 highly productive seasons with the [url="http://www.kcchiefs.com/"]Kansas City Chiefs[/url], Szott played one year with the [url="http://www.redskins.com/"]Washington Redskins[/url] before joining the Jets. The Clifton, N.J., native and Penn State product was a two-time Ed Block Courage Award winner and started 160 of the 177 games he played in his career.

During his time in Kansas City, Szott made an indelible impression on current Jets fullback [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/tony-richardson/37339d35-8bcc-4e51-bc9f-e567fafaf067/"]Tony Richardson[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url].

“He was a tremendous leader for us in Kansas City both on the field and off the field,” Richardson said. “Now being here and having the opportunity to work with him has been the icing on the cake for my career. He’s an awesome guy.”

In fact, Richardson and Szott once lived together during the offseason and Richardson credits Szott with being the catalyst for a serious and lasting recommitment to his faith. Szott has the versatility to work with all aspects of players lives. Current Jets trust him because he goes extra lengths to be there, including visiting injured players. Szott dropped in on DE [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/ropati-pitoitua/edb0350f-148a-4795-ad32-26ddd5aba8d9/"]Ropati Pitoitua[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] after the Jets’ second preseason game against the [url="http://www.panthers.com/"]Carolina Panthers[/url] to get a gauge of where Pitoitua, who suffered a season-ending Achilles' injury, was emotionally, physically and mentally.

“I help guys sift through their thoughts, their feelings, where they’re at in their career,” Szott said. “What you can be and what can you give to us on the field and in the locker room. The leadership is definitely instrumental in success because you have to bring these young players along and conveying those things to the older guys. Sometimes you just think of football, football, football. How can you add in other areas?”

In a sense, Szott creates a personal continuing education program, encouraging players to mature and grow in a variety of ways. Through taking the players to the NFL's Rookie Symposium to going fishing to simply spending time with them, Szott gets a pulse on every player at the facility and has a chance to connect with them.

One player he's become extremely close with is DT [url="http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/roster/kris-jenkins/e09dfe2e-16f8-44ab-a2f8-97fec4152b4d/"]Kris Jenkins[img]http://www.newyorkjets.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url], who did a lot of soul-searching this offseason. Szott said that Jenkins has plenty of football left in his career and Jenkins spoke highly of the man to whom he can turn for advice.

“Szott is like the 13th apostle,” Jenkins said. “He got dropped into this locker room by the Lord himself just for the sake of helping guys out with anything they need. I’m talking about as far as emotional stuff, family things. Szott is here to make sure players develop.”

Each player on the New York Jets is different, which is why Szott needs to get to know them all personally to figure out the best course of action for each. It takes a lot of time and effort, and it seems as though Szott is all at once focused on his responsibilities but calm and generous with his time. It’s rare to see him without a smile on his face, even as he’s juggling various duties.

“In my role,” Szott said, “not every player development director has the support and resources that the Jets have allowed and given me. From Mr. Johnson to Mr. Tannenbaum to Rex Ryan, they allow me to really maximize this role with what the league intended it to be. With that regard, a lot of the success I do have in this position is due to the support they give me.”

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