NYJetsFan.com Forums: The Bright Side - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:28 PM) RIOT
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 09:16 PM) Fuck the rangers!
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:22 PM) f*** RAUL
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:22 PM) LETS GO RANGERS
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:22 PM) #LGR
santana Icon : (Today, 12:56 AM) Harlem supports Lesbian Gay Rights
santana Icon : (Today, 12:56 AM) good for him... Good for him
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

The Bright Side Revis' Holdout

#1 User is offline   Merenguito Icon

  • 2008 Best Sig Award
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,148
  • Joined: 24-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Passaic, NJ

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 06 September 2010 - 01:14 AM

I think I have a bright side, albeit small but still a bright side to Revis holding out. Assuming he did remain training and continues to play at a high level, his absence allowed Wilson and Cromartie to face top receivers in a new defensive scheme to them. Now when the season starts, shit should seem easier for them because they now are gonna face talent a notch below, thus making them better corners which is pretty f***ing scary if you ask me.
Posted Image
0

#2 User is offline   Mr_Jet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,314
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth

  • NFL Team:

Posted 06 September 2010 - 02:44 AM

Very true. I can't wait to see how well those three play against Tom Brady and the Pats recievers in week 2.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
0

#3 User is offline   HurricaneJet32 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 6,703
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Location:New York

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 06 September 2010 - 08:53 AM

Yes...and no. Now Wilson has to step into the slot. Which is a whole different animal from playing on the outside. There you can use the sideline as a extra defender...in the slot the WR can go either direction and you can't force him into the sideline. It's no easy task...the Jets had no choice but to get Wilson ready to start and play the outside in case Revis never showed up...but now that Revis is here Wilson is going to be behind a bit on his nickel skills.
Posted Image
0

#4 User is offline   RetireChrebet Icon

  • Line Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 596
  • Joined: 30-March 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NV
  • Interests:Football, mma, yanks, basketball

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 06 September 2010 - 11:55 AM

[quote name='HurricaneJet32' date='06 September 2010 - 09:53 AM' timestamp='1283781224' post='309064']
Yes...and no. Now Wilson has to step into the slot. Which is a whole different animal from playing on the outside. There you can use the sideline as a extra defender...in the slot the WR can go either direction and you can't force him into the sideline. It's no easy task...the Jets had no choice but to get Wilson ready to start and play the outside in case Revis never showed up...but now that Revis is here Wilson is going to be behind a bit on his nickel skills.
[/quote]

I can see why you would say this but I think he'll be fine. There is a reason all teams play their #3 and #4 corner in the slot, your dealing with slower and most of the time shorter recievers. Wilson's natural athleticism and knowledge for the game will help him in this matter.
0

#5 User is offline   santana Icon

  • I'm batman
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 7,928
  • Joined: 03-June 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Washington DC
  • Interests:Keeping this place from breaking... and titties.

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 06 September 2010 - 12:12 PM

[quote name='RetireChrebet' date='06 September 2010 - 12:55 PM' timestamp='1283792143' post='309087']
I can see why you would say this but I think he'll be fine. There is a reason all teams play their #3 and #4 corner in the slot, your dealing with slower and most of the time shorter recievers. Wilson's natural athleticism and knowledge for the game will help him in this matter.
[/quote]

Heh this is pro ball man

Slot wrs aren't slower they are just less favored
Shorter? Maybe but slower rarely
Nyjetsfan.com Jets Fan Forum and Chat
0

#6 User is offline   MoMilk1991 Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,946
  • Joined: 10-March 07
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

Posted 06 September 2010 - 02:00 PM

[quote name='HurricaneJet32' date='06 September 2010 - 09:53 AM' timestamp='1283781224' post='309064']
Yes...and no. Now Wilson has to step into the slot. Which is a whole different animal from playing on the outside. There you can use the sideline as a extra defender...in the slot the WR can go either direction and you can't force him into the sideline. It's no easy task...the Jets had no choice but to get Wilson ready to start and play the outside in case Revis never showed up...but now that Revis is here Wilson is going to be behind a bit on his nickel skills.
[/quote]

I was thinking this exact same thing earlier today. With the Ravens signing Housh, I imagine he will be their slot guy, so that will be some work for Wilson. I hope he has a great week of practice against J-Co.
Posted Image
0

#7 User is offline   Jetsfan115 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 23,753
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cali

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 06 September 2010 - 02:02 PM

[quote name='santana' date='06 September 2010 - 10:12 AM' timestamp='1283793178' post='309091']
Heh this is pro ball man

Slot wrs aren't slower they are just less favored
Shorter? Maybe but slower rarely
[/quote]

it depends. in general the slot WR is the 3rd best reciever on the team. somtimes their fast but lack the route running ability or hands or both. sometimes they run good routes and have good hands but lack elite speed. look at us. cochery will be the slot guy cause he doesn't have the speed of holmes or the size and speed of BE, but he is a great route runner and has great hands. look at a team like the saints whose slot guy is henderson who lacks consistant hands or route running ability but is a burner.
Get it done MT
Posted Image
0

#8 User is offline   Tebow15 Icon

  • I <3 Stephen Hill
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,143
  • Joined: 25-July 07
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:21 AM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='06 September 2010 - 03:02 PM' timestamp='1283799749' post='309106']
it depends. in general the slot WR is the 3rd best reciever on the team. somtimes their fast but lack the route running ability or hands or both. sometimes they run good routes and have good hands but lack elite speed. look at us. cochery will be the slot guy cause he doesn't have the speed of holmes or the size and speed of BE, but he is a great route runner and has great hands. look at a team like the saints whose slot guy is henderson who lacks consistant hands or route running ability but is a burner.
[/quote]

Ok, so yea you talk about Cotchery so you are sorta fixing what you said, but the slot receiver isnt always the 3rd best receiver on the team, with bad route running ability and slower. It all depends on the offense.

Look at the Patriots. Wes Welker is the best OVERALL receiver they have and he is in the slot, why? because he works best in the slot working on lbs and safties and he is the best at reading coverages. Yes welker is on the slower side, but his quickness more than makes up for it. A slot receiver needs to be very good at reading what the defense is going to do and adjusting based on that. And some

Also, Henderson is NOT a slot receiver, he is the #2. Meachem is the slot. On top of that Henderson USED TO have inconsistant hands. Last year he was very sure handed and reliable. He is still a burner though.

So the slot is not just where u stick your 3rd best receiver who cant run routes, its where you put your guy who can make tough catches over the middle, read zones well, and HAS to run good routes otherwise he is ineffective.
Posted Image
0

#9 User is offline   Jetsfan115 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 23,753
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cali

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:42 AM

[quote name='Clemens11' date='07 September 2010 - 07:21 AM' timestamp='1283869300' post='309152']
Ok, so yea you talk about Cotchery so you are sorta fixing what you said, but the slot receiver isnt always the 3rd best receiver on the team, with bad route running ability and slower. It all depends on the offense.

Look at the Patriots. Wes Welker is the best OVERALL receiver they have and he is in the slot, why? because he works best in the slot working on lbs and safties and he is the best at reading coverages. Yes welker is on the slower side, but his quickness more than makes up for it. A slot receiver needs to be very good at reading what the defense is going to do and adjusting based on that. And some

Also, Henderson is NOT a slot receiver, he is the #2. Meachem is the slot. On top of that Henderson USED TO have inconsistant hands. Last year he was very sure handed and reliable. He is still a burner though.

So the slot is not just where u stick your 3rd best receiver who cant run routes, its where you put your guy who can make tough catches over the middle, read zones well, and HAS to run good routes otherwise he is ineffective.
[/quote]

once again i said IN GENERAL its your 3rd best WR. i never said always. the gianbst did it alot with the other Steve smith last year. he was their number 1 but they used in him the slot alot to give him favorable match-ups. the colts use all their WRs in the slot at one time or another including reggie wayne. and henderson is the number 2 but in 3 wide sets he usually played the slot with meachem and colston on the outside.
Get it done MT
Posted Image
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users