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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Who Won: Jets Or Revis?

Poll: Who Won: Jets Or Revis? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Which side got the best of the negotiations?

  1. Jets (19 votes [79.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 79.17%

  2. Revis (5 votes [20.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.83%

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:09 AM

I wonder what everyone thinks. Who won the negotiations between the Jets and Revis?

Obviously Revis got more money but the Jets didn't give in and make him the highest paid corner in the league. So, who won?

Revis got a 4-year deal worth $46 mill with $32 in guarantees.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:15 AM

I guess the Jets in the fact they aren't paying him the crazy 16 mil a year, but the fair 11.5 mil a year.


I think it worked out for both sides though, he gets a deal that doesn't cripple the team and also will hit FA before hes 30, basically he added another year to his current deal and raised his pay. Went from 1 mil this year to 11.5. Hes also getting 32 mil guaranteed, which is more than Asomugha got in his deal.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:16 AM

All this time, He wanted 16, we wanted to give him 12. He got 11.5. I think that says it all.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:19 AM

We won . Jets get short term deal . far less money was spent while DRevis gets good money and another chance at more guaranteed money as a free agent at 28 yrs in 4yrs.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:23 AM

In a fair deal, both parties come away from the negotiating table feeling like they got fucked a little. The Jets gave Revis less money than he wanted, but 70% of it is guaranteed. Both parties caved a little and a fair outcome was reached.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 10:34 AM

This is one of those rare instances where I think both sides got a good deal. The Jets dont have to pay insane money and Revis gets his guaranteed money. Its a win win. I voted the Jets because now our f***ing defense is going to kick serious ass.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 11:22 AM

[quote name='gojets3393' date='06 September 2010 - 04:16 PM' timestamp='1283786209' post='309071']
All this time, He wanted 16, we wanted to give him 12. He got 11.5. I think that says it all.
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But as 0099 pointed out, he's getting more money guaranteed than Asomugha did.

Both sides though are winners, but I chose the Jets in the poll considering they were able to get him back in a week before the season opener. At one point I saw this saga dragging on, perhaps like Emmitt Smith's holdout when he missed the first two games of the year. But thankfully both sides were pragmatic enough to reach a solution.

Despite not having him in camp, it has been a good offseason for Tannenbaum in terms of locking down the team's star players to long term deals prior to the regular season beginning, meaning there will be less hassle next summer. Now there is just David Harris to go.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 11:46 AM

revis won. he held out and got an extra 28 million added to his existing contract and only had to add 1 year on it meaning he will be a free agent at 29 and primed for another contract. plus 32 million is guarenteed
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 12:50 PM

Like SHJ said, both sides got jobbed. Revis got his but also it's only a 4 year meaning we'll be back at it sooner rather then later.

Revis didn't get the contract he wanted and the Jets didn't cave. I think it's fair.

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 01:19 PM

Id say the Jets won all around Revis does get alot of guaranteed money.

The thing we are missing is that Revis being out Wilson got alot of first team defense time. this had to help him tremedously.
I just hope Revis is in game shape and game mentality for Monday. We will need him to be in peak against Flacco`s nasty arm.Revis is bound to be tested from holding out and not practicing and playing with the team.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 01:37 PM

Yea for sure Kyle got a lot of really good reps against 1's. He's played well too. This will only bolster his growth. Our secondary is looking really good right now. LET'S GO BABY!
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 01:59 PM

wilson looks real good. cro and wilson is a huge upgrade from lito and lowery our #2 and #3 last year. our defense is gonna be hard to pass on, plus with jenks back its gonna be hard to run on too. we really don't have a weak link on D and our only weak links on O is QB and LG
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 02:51 PM

Revis wins, he doesn't have to go to training camp, gets a raise, and still starts the first game of the season. I don't know about you guys but thats a victory in my book

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 03:03 PM

Jets ultimately are the winners. They needed Revis back badly. Even if he's 50% for week one that's better than not having him. Revis screwed his reputation I think. Sitting out would have only worsened that and also let him languish in his prime.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 03:53 PM

[quote name='Fatman' date='06 September 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1283802674' post='309114']
Revis wins, he doesn't have to go to training camp, gets a raise, and still starts the first game of the season. I don't know about you guys but thats a victory in my book
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Or you can say that Revis got nothing extra. He was guaranteed $21 mil for 3 years before this whole thing and then he would've been tagged for the 4th year ($18 mil guaranteed). That's $39 mil guaranteed as opposed to the $32 he got now.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 04:24 PM

[quote name='Fatman' date='06 September 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1283802674' post='309114']
Revis wins, he doesn't have to go to training camp, gets a raise, and still starts the first game of the season. I don't know about you guys but thats a victory in my book
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GREAT point.


still though, i didn't vote bc it wasn't Revis won or the Jets won or yada yada. Both sides got what they wanted, and the Jets fans get what they wanted. BOTH sides came out victorious. I think it's kind of rediculous to say Revis won and the Jets didn't or vice versa. EVERYBODY WINS!!!!


LETS START THE FUCKIN SEASON!!!! OH MY GOD WHOS JUICED UP!?!?!?!?!

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 04:26 PM

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 05:07 PM

Sanchez won.

Revis and the D can bail him out all year again. :banana019:
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 06:48 PM

I voted that the Jets won but they both won though the Jets more so. Like SecondHand said both probably walked away from the table feeling like they gave up too much, but it's like that old saying the truth is usually somewhere in the middle and that's where they met. Revis got his guaranteed money and the Jets didn't have to make him the highest paid CB in the league. Hopefully come February we'll all be winners when Woody Johnson and Revis hold the Lombardi trophy.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 08:49 PM

I think both sides got what they wanted. the jets and revis both were never gonna cave 40 million so they worked out the band aid deal. revis is a jet for 4 more years and revis is guarenteed 32 million and will make 32+ his 1st 2 season on the deal.
Get it done MT
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