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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Randy Moss Aint Happy

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:29 AM

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Randy Moss expressed frustration Monday that the Patriots have failed to extend his contract.
"When you have done so much and put so much work in, it kind of feels like I am not wanted," he said. "I am taking that in stride and playing my final year out ... but it is kind of a bad feeling -- feeling not wanted. It is not like my production has gone down." Moss admitted that it's "the nature of the business." The 33-year-old will earn $6.4 million this season.[b]Source:[/b] [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13894020/patriots-moss-feels-not-wanted-without-contract-offer"]CBS Sports [/url]
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:33 AM

Tee hee. And we all thought hte Jets were low balling their players. The Pats just don't even consider it- Mankins being out will hurt them considerably, and Randy Moss is chirping about a contract now? Never good. How can anyone pick them for anything? It's just lazy to not pay attention to how bad things are there.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:17 AM

[quote name='CoachasaurusREX' date='07 September 2010 - 09:33 AM' timestamp='1283866386' post='309150']
Tee hee. And we all thought hte Jets were low balling their players. The Pats just don't even consider it- Mankins being out will hurt them considerably, and Randy Moss is chirping about a contract now? Never good. How can anyone pick them for anything? It's just lazy to not pay attention to how bad things are there.
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Mankins will be a bigger loss than an un-happy Moss, he is at the point where he makes one or two big plays a game. As it stands I'd rather have Revis on Welker instead of Moss.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 09:23 AM

[quote name='TheFuture' date='07 September 2010 - 10:17 AM' timestamp='1283869065' post='309151']
Mankins will be a bigger loss than an un-happy Moss, he is at the point where he makes one or two big plays a game. As it stands I'd rather have Revis on Welker instead of Moss.
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Cro's height and athleticism would match up well against Moss. Revis on Welker would be better because you can't really stop Welker from getting some catches over the middle - but Revis is a hell of a tackler.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 10:32 AM

Wrong we beat the Pats because we made them throw to welker exclusively and all we had to do is tackle him at that point of reception and it worked like a charm.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 10:58 AM

[quote name='gmany3k' date='07 September 2010 - 11:32 AM' timestamp='1283873576' post='309168']
Wrong we beat the Pats because we made them throw to welker exclusively and all we had to do is tackle him at that point of reception and it worked like a charm.
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Yea except the second time Welker put up 150+ yrds receiving. Even though he had no TD's he was making our D look silly. Yes Sanchez had 4 picks but only 1 was returned for a score.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:09 AM

[quote name='TheFuture' date='07 September 2010 - 08:58 AM' timestamp='1283875105' post='309172']
Yea except the second time Welker put up 150+ yrds receiving. Even though he had no TD's he was making our D look silly. Yes Sanchez had 4 picks but only 1 was returned for a score.
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he destroyed lito and lowery. now with cromartie and wilson we shold be better off. and cro cna play him tight and sue his size cause he knows welker can't burn him
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:41 AM

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he destroyed lito and lowery. now with cromartie and wilson we shold be better off. and cro cna play him tight and sue his size cause he knows welker can't burn him
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Good point about Cro's speed. He might not be as good a tackler as Revis, but he is definitely faster. If Cro can keep Welker close and keep Welker from easy catches, and thus more defenders to take him down, then he might be effectively neutralized. We already know what Revis can do against Moss, keep it that way.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 11:52 AM

I'd rather see Revis start off on Welker since he is better at jamming receivers at the line and Welker is near impossible recover after a release. On the other hand, Moss usually struggles with physical corners, so I gues I'd like to see Revis on both of them.

I'm glad Revis is back.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 12:14 PM

[quote name='A1elbow' date='07 September 2010 - 09:52 AM' timestamp='1283878347' post='309178']
I'd rather see Revis start off on Welker since he is better at jamming receivers at the line and Welker is near impossible recover after a release. On the other hand, Moss usually struggles with physical corners, so I gues I'd like to see Revis on both of them.

I'm glad Revis is back.
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We need to find a way to clone revis
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:13 PM

[quote name='Goodfellaz' date='07 September 2010 - 09:23 AM' timestamp='1283869435' post='309154']
Cro's height and athleticism would match up well against Moss. Revis on Welker would be better because you can't really stop Welker from getting some catches over the middle - but Revis is a hell of a tackler.
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to be honest man, i think welker is probably the ONLY reciever out there that i am afraid of even if revis was on him, he is small, extremely quick and most of all a SLOT. i know he took out steve smith but that's outside not slot, i prefer wilson to be on him.. that is a much better match
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 04:32 PM

This is THE year we finally smack the pats around!!! :banana019:
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 04:35 PM

[quote name='Jetsfan115' date='07 September 2010 - 05:09 PM' timestamp='1283875774' post='309174']
he destroyed lito and lowery. now with cromartie and wilson we shold be better off. and cro cna play him tight and sue his size cause he knows welker can't burn him
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I'd rather have Revis covering Welker and Cromartie on Moss. Cro doesn't have that same discipline as Revis does to stay with a guy, whereas with his height, speed and athleticism - in my opinion at least - he is better spent locking down Moss, who isn't really used on option or underneath routes that much.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 05:24 PM

[quote name='TheFuture' date='07 September 2010 - 11:58 AM' timestamp='1283875105' post='309172']
Yea except the second time Welker put up 150+ yrds receiving. Even though he had no TD's he was making our D look silly. Yes Sanchez had 4 picks but only 1 was returned for a score.
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I think we are good with the coverage this year....Lets just hope Sanchez doesnt throw two picks in a game let alone four.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 05:38 PM

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I think we are good with the coverage this year....Lets just hope Sanchez doesnt throw two picks in a game let alone four.
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Sanchez doens't need gaudy numbers. if he can cut down to like 10 INTs we can be great. even if he throws for less then 3000 yards and only 10 TDs. I'm not worry about yards or TDs. i'm worried about % and INTs. if he can be around 60% and throw 10 INTs we'll be good. he's got to use his check down in LT and keller alot more often though
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 06:01 PM

[quote name='TheFuture' date='07 September 2010 - 10:58 AM' timestamp='1283875105' post='309172']
Yea except the second time Welker put up 150+ yrds receiving. Even though he had no TD's he was making our D look silly. Yes Sanchez had 4 picks but only 1 was returned for a score.
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