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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:00 PM

Another great read.

[b]A High-Tech Showplace Fulfills a Vision for the Jets[/b]

[b]By [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/greg_bishop/index.html?inline=nyt-per"]GREG BISHOP[/url][/b]

[b]Published: September 4, 2010[/b]
Woody Johnson said planning for things like the Jets’ Touchdown Club, right, was years in the making.

From the air, New Meadowlands Stadium resembled a [url="http://www.fanway.com/live/images/stories/new_meadowlands_stadium.jpg"]giant gray spaceship[/url]. For Johnson, the Jets’ owner, it represented a culmination, the key to the team’s transformation, a proper residence some 10 years in the making and the site of the 2014 [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/super_bowl/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier"]Super Bowl[/url], although the Jets loudly proclaim that they expect to win a championship this season.

The night before, the Jets hosted the Giants in the first professional football game in the stadium both call home. This was a landmark event in Johnson’s life. For the first time, his Jets played in a building that glowed gloriously green.

“I don’t know how long you can have butterflies, or chills, for,” he said. “But I had them for five hours last night.”

Long before kickoff on Aug. 16, Johnson walked the parking lot. He kept moving, farther and farther and farther, yet he could still see that sign inside the main entrance, his sign, with those letters, J-E-T-S, standing some 50 feet tall.

In a quiet moment, Johnson sat in the empty stands with [url="http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_41/b4103064451804.htm?chan=magazine+channel_special+report"]two of the team’s executive vice presidents[/url], [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/24/sports/football/24jets.html"]Matt Higgins[/url] and Thad Sheely. They said little until Johnson broke the silence.

“We’re finally here,” he said, by Sheely’s recollection.

Johnson [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/sports/football/28owner.html"]traced this quest[/url] back 10 years, before he even purchased the Jets. On his first day as the owner, he listed two principal goals: win a Super Bowl championship and construct a new stadium. Johnson restocked the Jets’ roster after reaching the A.F.C. championship game last season. And on a recent half-day tour by helicopter and on foot, he called the stadium goal “kind of the reason I bought the team.”

His tenure is largely defined by stadiums, by [url="http://www.westsidestadium.org/"]the stadium[/url] he failed to build on the West Side of Manhattan; by Giants Stadium, where his Jets played home games in a building named for another team; and by this stadium, his stadium, at least half of it.

“Whether you want to call it the maturation, the evolution, or the coming out of Woody Johnson as an owner, it’s all come together,” Sheely said. “It’s obvious now, when it wasn’t necessarily in the past, what Woody is all about.”

For 26 years, when the Jets played at Giants Stadium, they compensated the best they could. They wrapped the building in green and white. They decorated it with signs. As much as they tried to make it feel like home, the seats were still red and blue, the name was still Giants. Like putting lipstick on a pig, Higgins said.

With games to win, players never let the stadium situation bother them, the retired Jets running back [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/curtis_martin/index.html?inline=nyt-per"]Curtis Martin[/url] said. But it never truly felt like home. Martin compared it to playing pool on his home table: nothing like it, nothing close.

At times, John Mara, the Giants’ co-owner, could not bring himself to watch the old building come down. He held too many memories, of games won and history made and the long walks he took with his father around the concourse. The old building had a soul, Mara said. But that soul was mostly blue, not green.

Martin said: “That was our stadium, but it wasn’t something that we necessarily took pride in, beyond the fact that someone was coming to New York to play the Jets. We weren’t defending our stadium. Now, there’s a sense of pride.”

Now, the Jets and their new stadium have gone green. Every home game feels like St. Patrick’s Day. Johnson gestured excitedly at the Jets logo painted outside the locker room. Sheely spoke from the Green Room, the Jets’ upscale lounge with hardwood floors and leather booths. And the band [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/g/green_day/index.html?inline=nyt-org"]Green Day[/url] will perform when the Jets open their season on Sept. 13 against Baltimore.

After the Giants game, when only half of the green lights worked, Johnson said: “Yesterday was greenish. We’re going to take the ‘ish’ off that thing. I want to be able to see that green from Mars.”

To arrive here, the Jets and the Giants scoured the world, visiting stadiums and arenas, studying books on architecture. Johnson drew influence from the Roman Colosseum, among his favorite buildings, with [url="http://www.unrv.com/culture/colosseum.php"]its sense[/url] of history and power.

Sheely took trips across the United States and Europe. At [url="http://www.wembleystadium.com/default.aspx"]Wembley Stadium[/url] in London, he saw how a [url="http://www.designbuild-network.com/projects/wembley/"]construction fiasco[/url] could undermine a project. In Berlin, Olympic Stadium took his [url="http://www.planetware.com/berlin/berlin-olympic-stadium-d-bn-bolym.htm"]breath away[/url]. In Munich, he marveled at the [url="http://www.best-of-munich.com/allianz-arena/Allianz-Arena.html"]spectacular architecture[/url] of Allianz Arena, home to two professional soccer clubs and the blueprint for sharing space.

In a twist, the most important development was no development at all. Looking back, Mara said, this stadium would have been “very, very difficult financially” for the Giants to build alone. Meanwhile, Johnson wondered if construction on the West Side stadium would have even started by now.

The teams, despite their disagreements, needed each other, and Mara called their relatively smooth stadium interactions a “pleasant surprise.” The result is New Meadowlands Stadium, the great transforming building. It operates like a mood ring, blue one day, green the next.

The task of neutrality fell to Mark Lamping, [url="http://www.jetnation.com/2010/08/17/mark-lamping-interview-ceo-new-meadowlands-stadium/"]the chief executive[/url] of the new stadium. His staff put in thousands of hours, and they wear pedometers to gauge how far they walk. One preseason game, Lamping’s registered 14 miles.

Among the highlights: four massive high-quality video boards in each corner of the stadium, more than 2,000 television monitors, spacious locker rooms and a Coaches Club with seating behind the home team bench. On the tour, Johnson described the food, in particular the meatballs, made from a recipe passed to the [url="http://www.northjersey.com/food_dining/93550964_No_Title_-_stadiumchefbl0512.html"]executive chef[/url], Eric Borgia, from his grandmother. The Jets even released a [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/z/zagat_survey/index.html?inline=nyt-org"]Zagat[/url]-style guide, which hailed their “Home Food Advantage.”

Next, Johnson talked about the entryway, with its more than 20-foot-tall video boards that give a Las Vegas feel. The goal was to connect the stadium to the parking lot, and this area houses “railgating,” where fans who take the train can rent grill space.

Then there is Johnson’s suite, which Martin compared to a Manhattan penthouse. The two-level suite includes 16 televisions. It also comes with a touch-screen command center, where Johnson can access information, including how many cars are parked an hour before the game, how the Jets last played under similar weather conditions, and whether jersey sales have increased based on performance.

For the Giants game, Johnson filled the suite with more than 100 friends and family. They dined on hot dogs (Johnson ate two), chicken, pasta and fruit, but could have chosen foie gras and lamb.

“It’s the best stadium in the [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_football_league/index.html?inline=nyt-org"]N.F.L.[/url],” Martin said. “You wonder if it’s the best stadium in the world right now.”

Regardless, it remains a work in progress. Higgins said he was confident the Jets would sell out by the opener. The team cut prices on personal seat licenses by as much as half in June. Lamping said his crew would continue to make changes. Even the smallest details are scrutinized. For example, the Jets offered tuna fish sandwiches in their premium seating area against the Giants. The next game, they switched to shrimp *beep*tail.

Back in the helicopter, the pilot steered between Johnson’s landmarks. Over Florham Park, N.J., Johnson noted the solar panels the team recently installed on the roof of its practice facility. (Talk about going green.) Over the stadium, the pilot circled.

“Remember, we’re on the home field now,” Johnson said. “We were never on the home field before.”

Before leaving the stadium, Johnson bumped into [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/phil_simms/index.html?inline=nyt-per"]Phil Simms[/url], the CBS analyst and former[url="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SimmPh00.htm"] Giants quarterback[/url]. They discussed the holdout of cornerback Darrelle Revis, the passion of Coach [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/rex_ryan/index.html?inline=nyt-per"]Rex Ryan[/url], the growth of quarterback [url="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/mark_sanchez/index.html?inline=nyt-per"]Mark Sanchez[/url]. But when Johnson complained about the Jets’ issues at left guard, Simms laughed.

“You can’t have everything,” he said.

The room exploded into laughter, Johnson included, as he resumed the tour of the one thing he wanted most: the giant, transforming spaceship that glows green. He did not call this structure Jets Stadium, or Giants Stadium, or even New Meadowlands Stadium. He called it home.


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