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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) Me too
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) how do you block Wilkerson, Richardson, and Williams on passing downs?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) if he's not convicted since he has to go back to court now that his suspension is over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) I would like to see us use a 4 man front on passing downs. With Wilk on the the end Rich on the other end and Williams and Harrison in the middle
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) the interior pressure we'll bring is going to be crazy
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) and if he's in game shape
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:37 PM) Or Use Rich and Williams in the middle and put Wilk and Coples on the Ends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:38 PM) Richardson won't be suspended this season from that
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:40 PM) This D-line reminds me of the 2011 Giants who used JPP and Tuck on the inside and Osi and Kiwanuka on the ends
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:41 PM) 4 10 sack players at 1 points in their careers and no o-line could stop them all
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:41 PM) I think this D-line will be so much better
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:43 PM) The thing that is scary is that we also have a great secondary
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) Exactly
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) All of our additions in the secondary look great. Darrelle Revis changes secondaries
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:44 PM) Buster Skrine has been a beast at nickel
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Take a sack or throw it up
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Marcus Gilchrist has been making plays in coverage at FS.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) The Island!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) Never should have let him go
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) We could have just taken Rich at 9
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:46 PM) but o well he is back now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:46 PM) You got to think Revis has also never had this much talent around him
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:48 PM) all 3 of our wins we pretty much dominated in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:48 PM) Our defense has allowed the leagues best 13 PPG
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) We beat us against Philly
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:50 PM) 4 turnovers and a Punt return TD
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:58 PM) If fitz can be smart with the ball and Marshall Decker and Ivory and stay healthy I think we can beat anyone
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:36 PM) http://www.sun-senti...1005-story.html
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:16 PM) I get it to a point why everyone is making a big deal about that missed call because difference between a win and a loss but I have never seen that call made in over 30 years of watching NFL so I guarantee that none of the fans , coaches or players new the rule. Yes the refs should know all the rules but they aren't computers and it's impossible for them to remember all the 1000's of rules. Especially an old rule no one but the officials ever heard of before. 22 new officials didn't help either. It took an old long time official now retired from officiating to tell the world the rule. Everyone and the officials will remember that rule from now on after all the media
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) Lions fans are b*tching like hell about it. We would be if it happened to us but I think it's a bad rule any way and should be scrapped. If the defense causes the offensive player to fumble in the end zone because the defense makes a good play I personally think it would be bullshit to give the fumbling team the ball back. If the ball went out of bounds on its own or if a player tried to recover it and the ball went out of the end zone it's not a penalty. Both cases are a touchback so I feel that giving the ball back to the offense that fumbled it because of the defense batting the ball out of the end zone if the offense recovered the ball it would be a td so it would be bullshit to give them the ball back because of a simple ball bat. Rule should really be changed
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 01:38 PM

Shonn Greene, RB, N.Y. Jets: No longer Thomas Jones' understudy, Greene gets the bulk of the carries -- and judging from his performance the last five games of 2009 that could be good. In those games he ran for 461 yards (including 304 in the playoffs), averaged 5.5 yards a carry and scored twice. The beauty of the "Ground and Pound" approach was that the Jets didn't have to rely on Greene. They had the AFC's second-leading rusher in Jones and gave him the ball enough that he scored 14 times, tied for fourth-best in the NFL. But Jones is gone, and veteran LaDainian Tomlinson is here ... which means the Jets lean heavily on Greene, now more than ever.

Kyle Wilson, CB, N.Y. Jets: Just my opinion, but Joe Haden wasn't the best cover corner in the draft; Wilson was. So he lasts until the 29th pick, where the Jets take him, and the rich just got richer. The club that last season had the league's best pass defense but not enough defensive backs to cover Indianapolis' receivers just added Wilson and Antonio Cromartie. Now you know why Rex Ryan is so sure he's going the extra mile this season. If you're in the same division with Tom Brady you better have quality cornerbacks, and Wilson fits the description. Consider him a steal at the 29th spot.

Mark Sanchez, QB, N.Y. Jets: He needs time to develop, but there's not much time when your head coach proclaims your team the next Super Bowl champion. Sanchez was all over the place last season, which you expect from a rookie, but he showed me something in the playoffs -- particularly the conference championship loss to Indianapolis. He was poised and effective in a difficult environment. Now he must take a giant step forward to satisfy season ticket holders expecting the club to go to the top, and, frankly, I'm just not sure he's ready.

LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, N.Y. Jets: I'll be honest: I don't think L.T. has much gas left in the tank, but teammates tell me I'm wrong. So do his preseason numbers. But this is September, fellas. Wait until we get to November and December, and Tomlinson's 31-year-old legs start aching and stop moving. At least, that's my expectation. I saw too much of him last season to believe he has much left. He had career low numbers, with the most compelling a 3.3 yards-per-carry average. An encore performance will have Monday morning quarterbacks wondering why letting Thomas Jones walk was such a good idea.

Antonio Cromartie, CB, N.Y. Jets: OK, I get it. He whiffed on Shonn Greene's touchdown run in last season's playoffs. But, as Rex Ryan said, the Jets aren't paying him to tackle; they're paying him to cover receivers. Cromartie is a gifted athlete who has had as much trouble weeding out his personal life as he did tackling Greene, but the Jets hope a change of scenery and a little financial help will keep him focused. If they do, they have themselves a top-shelf cornerback. If they don't, they have an unreliable player who can become a distraction.


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Posted 07 September 2010 - 02:50 PM

Ya ever notice how little these "insiders" and "beat writers" acutally know? They make all sorts of "factual" claims, where they really have no idea what they're talking about.

One of the things I've loved the most about Hard Knock's is getting a REAL inside scoop and finding out how wrong these beat guys are most of the time.

Like when Greg Buttle said during one of the preseason games that Mike Westhoff loves David Clowney...right after the Hard Knock's episode where Westhoff was saying that he basically sucks. The play-by-play guy...not sure who it was...had to say, "Wait a minute...Westhoff loves him?"

This article doesn't say anything we haven't been hearing for months. I'd really like to hear some real analysis of Vernon Gholston, Jamall Westerman, Donovan Warren, Chauncey Washington, etc. other than the obligatory "the coaches like what they see from him" or "he's looked good in the preseason"

PS - Does anyone read the Jets blog on ESPNNY by Rich Cimini? Anyone else get the feeling that guy really hates the Jets? He's impossibly negative in every way.
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Posted 07 September 2010 - 05:27 PM

Soon we can put that type of article to bed. we will have some growing pains sure and so will the other teams. This year we will put some QB's out to the hotubs brusied and banged up if not out for a few weeks.
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