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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) Catch the f***ing ball nelson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) it all comes down to this
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) David ha ha Nelson is a bum
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) why didn't they talk about Kyle Fuler when torched for 51 yards by Salas?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Bullshit
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) f***
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How the f*** is that not interference
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) That's flag 101 never looking back and pushing the WR
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Never looked for the ball for a second
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) Fuck this game fuck the refs fuck this team fuck the season. I'm over this shit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) Oh look the refs gave the Jets another timeout. A timeout the Jets didn't even have. SMDH
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
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Who Can Give Some Good Ol Fantasy Advice Week 1 RB matchup Spiller/ Harrison

Poll: Who Can Give Some Good Ol Fantasy Advice (7 member(s) have cast votes)

Who scores more fantasy points Week 1? (PPR League)

  1. CJ Spiller vs. Miami (2 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. Jerome Harrison vs. Cleveland (5 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 01:50 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 01:22 PM, said:

In follow up to this, I got a very enticing Trade offer this morning:

I give:
Steve Smith (Panthers)
Hakeem Nicks
Ryan Mathews

I get:
Brandon Marshall
Anquan Boldin
Knowshon Moreno

and in a shocking movement, Beanie Wells was dropped this morning, I can pick him up for Big Ben as a backup RB.

This is a no-brainer right?


Hell no I wouldn't do that trade. First off, Matthews is a pure #1. Moreno is hurt and there are alot more options in Denver. Matthews is going to get far more carries than Moreno and it's not even close.

Marshall is going to have his share of catches but so is Steve Smith, so that's a wash to me.

Boldin is a question mark in my opinion. He won't have Larry Fitzgerald opposite him and say what you want about Warner, he is, as far as fantasy goes, far ahead of Flacco. Nicks isn't a big name but he's Eli's favorite target and will be the Giant's #1 (The Giants Steve Smith caught the most passes, but Nicks and Eli have been working all off season and Nicks was the one WR that went to live with Eli during the off season plus the Giants defense and running game stink so they will be in a bunch of shoot outs).

To recap, you'll be giving up the better RB (by far), the better WR (in Nicks, IMO) and getting back Marshall who is basically like the guy you're giving away, S Smith. You're downgrading at 2 positions without a single glaring upgrade.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 03:05 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 12:22 PM, said:

In follow up to this, I got a very enticing Trade offer this morning:

I give:
Steve Smith (Panthers)
Hakeem Nicks
Ryan Mathews

I get:
Brandon Marshall
Anquan Boldin
Knowshon Moreno

and in a shocking movement, Beanie Wells was dropped this morning, I can pick him up for Big Ben as a backup RB.

This is a no-brainer right?


For him. He has the "name factor" in Marshall and Boldin, but Smith and Nicks are pretty comparable. I don't think the upside between the two backs is even close.

Last season Marshall and Boldin combined for about 190 receptions for 2100 yards and 14 TDs. Smith and Nicks produced about 110 receptions for 1700 yards and 13 TDs. On the surface it looks like Marshall and Boldin are the better pair by a far bit, but both were in offenses that emphasized passing, but now have to fit in with more run based teams. They'll still be good, but Smith and Nicks won't need to adjust. To me, just in receiver, that trade is a wash.

On the running backs it isn't even a comparison. Matthews is in a stud offense were the coach is planning on using him a lot. Moreno was okay last season, but never had a big time game. If Matthews is trusted by the team enough to run the ball a bit more than they did with Tomlinson the last two seasons he has the potential for an easy 12 TDs and a solid block of yards.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 03:19 PM

f***!!! I wish you guys responded quicker. I accepted the trade! Well, i was worried about losing Mathews but figured he had somewhat rookie risk and I was better off with 3 studs at WR and playing the matchups between greene and Charles who should both be studs anyway.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 05:13 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

f***!!! I wish you guys responded quicker. I accepted the trade! Well, i was worried about losing Mathews but figured he had somewhat rookie risk and I was better off with 3 studs at WR and playing the matchups between greene and Charles who should both be studs anyway.


SHJ responded within half an hour, that seems pretty good on a Saturday when not as many people are regularly checking the board.

Charles is overrated too in my opinion. People are all over him because of those last few games, but that was when a lot of teams were quitting and/or not game planning for him. It's a lot different when teams consider you enemy number one. Honestly though, that isn't a terrible trade. If you're comfortable with it, hey it's your team.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 06:53 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 11 September 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

SHJ responded within half an hour, that seems pretty good on a Saturday when not as many people are regularly checking the board.

Charles is overrated too in my opinion. People are all over him because of those last few games, but that was when a lot of teams were quitting and/or not game planning for him. It's a lot different when teams consider you enemy number one. Honestly though, that isn't a terrible trade. If you're comfortable with it, hey it's your team.


in one league my RBs are

rice, greene, harrison, charles, bush, stewart.

i can start 3 and i was gonna go with rice, harrison, and charles. you think i shouldn't Its a PPR league and b-more is tough which is why i opted out of greene, plus i think LT will get the red zone touches the first game. bush i can't start now anyway since he played so stewart is the only sub i have, but he did gash the giants for 200+ last year
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 08:10 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 11 September 2010 - 06:53 PM, said:

in one league my RBs are

rice, greene, harrison, charles, bush, stewart.

i can start 3 and i was gonna go with rice, harrison, and charles. you think i shouldn't Its a PPR league and b-more is tough which is why i opted out of greene, plus i think LT will get the red zone touches the first game. bush i can't start now anyway since he played so stewart is the only sub i have, but he did gash the giants for 200+ last year


Yeah, those guys are all solid starts in PPR leagues. I wonder what is more prevalent, PPR or non-PPR? I think that is one thing people should mention when asking for advice.

PPR rankings are way different. Starters that also catch three or four balls a game are gold. I know I rated guys a lot differently in our league knowing that the number of receptions would factor into it.

That's an impressive stable of backs, how many teams are in that league?
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:40 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 11 September 2010 - 06:10 PM, said:

Yeah, those guys are all solid starts in PPR leagues. I wonder what is more prevalent, PPR or non-PPR? I think that is one thing people should mention when asking for advice.

PPR rankings are way different. Starters that also catch three or four balls a game are gold. I know I rated guys a lot differently in our league knowing that the number of receptions would factor into it.

That's an impressive stable of backs, how many teams are in that league?


12 team league. i drafted good except QB. i drafted ben way late but he is out for 4 weeks so i picked up anderson for now and if he fials i got a back end trade of mcnabb for bush

my WRs are solid too. i got megatron, welker, cochery, royal, nicks, and knox
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:11 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 11 September 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:

12 team league. i drafted good except QB. i drafted ben way late but he is out for 4 weeks so i picked up anderson for now and if he fials i got a back end trade of mcnabb for bush

my WRs are solid too. i got megatron, welker, cochery, royal, nicks, and knox




Yeah, I went after Ben in our league. I waited late to get McNabb (I actually was hoping for someone a little better than that, but they piled off at one point) because I was targeting Big Ben. He'll pay dividends late in the season when the Steelers are desperate for wins to make the playoffs.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:19 AM

Im set at all my spots but 1...

Forsett or Moreno...who should I start at RB?
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:37 AM

View PostMerenguito, on 12 September 2010 - 09:19 AM, said:

Im set at all my spots but 1...

Forsett or Moreno...who should I start at RB?


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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:58 AM

Pick one for my RB2

Charles vs. SD
Greene vs. BAL
Moreno vs. JAX
Beanie vs. STL (banged up)
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 10:28 AM

View Postgojets3393, on 12 September 2010 - 09:58 AM, said:

Pick one for my RB2

Charles vs. SD
Greene vs. BAL
Moreno vs. JAX
Beanie vs. STL (banged up)


Charles. Baltimore will be better against the run than the pass, and Moreno is on the injured list (probable, but still). Wells is doubtful, actually having been downgraded.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 03:05 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 04:19 PM, said:

f***!!! I wish you guys responded quicker. I accepted the trade! Well, i was worried about losing Mathews but figured he had somewhat rookie risk and I was better off with 3 studs at WR and playing the matchups between greene and Charles who should both be studs anyway.


Nicks is going to have an All Pro year. You got fleeced bro.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 11:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 12 September 2010 - 03:05 PM, said:

Nicks is going to have an All Pro year. You got fleeced bro.


I was watching that Car-NYG game thinking, "sucks for him."
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 11:24 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 13 September 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:

I was watching that Car-NYG game thinking, "sucks for him."


You know the other guy told everyone he knows how he got Nicks & the rookie from SD for a couple of WRs.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:36 AM

I sat nicks in 2 leagues. that really sucked. plus i got screwed on the megatron TD that wasn't. I'm not off to a good start, Oh and my 1 and only TE got laid out by eli manning and knocked out of teh game
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