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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Who Can Give Some Good Ol Fantasy Advice Week 1 RB matchup Spiller/ Harrison

Poll: Who Can Give Some Good Ol Fantasy Advice (7 member(s) have cast votes)

Who scores more fantasy points Week 1? (PPR League)

  1. CJ Spiller vs. Miami (2 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. Jerome Harrison vs. Cleveland (5 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 01:50 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 01:22 PM, said:

In follow up to this, I got a very enticing Trade offer this morning:

I give:
Steve Smith (Panthers)
Hakeem Nicks
Ryan Mathews

I get:
Brandon Marshall
Anquan Boldin
Knowshon Moreno

and in a shocking movement, Beanie Wells was dropped this morning, I can pick him up for Big Ben as a backup RB.

This is a no-brainer right?


Hell no I wouldn't do that trade. First off, Matthews is a pure #1. Moreno is hurt and there are alot more options in Denver. Matthews is going to get far more carries than Moreno and it's not even close.

Marshall is going to have his share of catches but so is Steve Smith, so that's a wash to me.

Boldin is a question mark in my opinion. He won't have Larry Fitzgerald opposite him and say what you want about Warner, he is, as far as fantasy goes, far ahead of Flacco. Nicks isn't a big name but he's Eli's favorite target and will be the Giant's #1 (The Giants Steve Smith caught the most passes, but Nicks and Eli have been working all off season and Nicks was the one WR that went to live with Eli during the off season plus the Giants defense and running game stink so they will be in a bunch of shoot outs).

To recap, you'll be giving up the better RB (by far), the better WR (in Nicks, IMO) and getting back Marshall who is basically like the guy you're giving away, S Smith. You're downgrading at 2 positions without a single glaring upgrade.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 03:05 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 12:22 PM, said:

In follow up to this, I got a very enticing Trade offer this morning:

I give:
Steve Smith (Panthers)
Hakeem Nicks
Ryan Mathews

I get:
Brandon Marshall
Anquan Boldin
Knowshon Moreno

and in a shocking movement, Beanie Wells was dropped this morning, I can pick him up for Big Ben as a backup RB.

This is a no-brainer right?


For him. He has the "name factor" in Marshall and Boldin, but Smith and Nicks are pretty comparable. I don't think the upside between the two backs is even close.

Last season Marshall and Boldin combined for about 190 receptions for 2100 yards and 14 TDs. Smith and Nicks produced about 110 receptions for 1700 yards and 13 TDs. On the surface it looks like Marshall and Boldin are the better pair by a far bit, but both were in offenses that emphasized passing, but now have to fit in with more run based teams. They'll still be good, but Smith and Nicks won't need to adjust. To me, just in receiver, that trade is a wash.

On the running backs it isn't even a comparison. Matthews is in a stud offense were the coach is planning on using him a lot. Moreno was okay last season, but never had a big time game. If Matthews is trusted by the team enough to run the ball a bit more than they did with Tomlinson the last two seasons he has the potential for an easy 12 TDs and a solid block of yards.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 03:19 PM

f***!!! I wish you guys responded quicker. I accepted the trade! Well, i was worried about losing Mathews but figured he had somewhat rookie risk and I was better off with 3 studs at WR and playing the matchups between greene and Charles who should both be studs anyway.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 05:13 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

f***!!! I wish you guys responded quicker. I accepted the trade! Well, i was worried about losing Mathews but figured he had somewhat rookie risk and I was better off with 3 studs at WR and playing the matchups between greene and Charles who should both be studs anyway.


SHJ responded within half an hour, that seems pretty good on a Saturday when not as many people are regularly checking the board.

Charles is overrated too in my opinion. People are all over him because of those last few games, but that was when a lot of teams were quitting and/or not game planning for him. It's a lot different when teams consider you enemy number one. Honestly though, that isn't a terrible trade. If you're comfortable with it, hey it's your team.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 06:53 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 11 September 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

SHJ responded within half an hour, that seems pretty good on a Saturday when not as many people are regularly checking the board.

Charles is overrated too in my opinion. People are all over him because of those last few games, but that was when a lot of teams were quitting and/or not game planning for him. It's a lot different when teams consider you enemy number one. Honestly though, that isn't a terrible trade. If you're comfortable with it, hey it's your team.


in one league my RBs are

rice, greene, harrison, charles, bush, stewart.

i can start 3 and i was gonna go with rice, harrison, and charles. you think i shouldn't Its a PPR league and b-more is tough which is why i opted out of greene, plus i think LT will get the red zone touches the first game. bush i can't start now anyway since he played so stewart is the only sub i have, but he did gash the giants for 200+ last year
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 08:10 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 11 September 2010 - 06:53 PM, said:

in one league my RBs are

rice, greene, harrison, charles, bush, stewart.

i can start 3 and i was gonna go with rice, harrison, and charles. you think i shouldn't Its a PPR league and b-more is tough which is why i opted out of greene, plus i think LT will get the red zone touches the first game. bush i can't start now anyway since he played so stewart is the only sub i have, but he did gash the giants for 200+ last year


Yeah, those guys are all solid starts in PPR leagues. I wonder what is more prevalent, PPR or non-PPR? I think that is one thing people should mention when asking for advice.

PPR rankings are way different. Starters that also catch three or four balls a game are gold. I know I rated guys a lot differently in our league knowing that the number of receptions would factor into it.

That's an impressive stable of backs, how many teams are in that league?
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 09:40 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 11 September 2010 - 06:10 PM, said:

Yeah, those guys are all solid starts in PPR leagues. I wonder what is more prevalent, PPR or non-PPR? I think that is one thing people should mention when asking for advice.

PPR rankings are way different. Starters that also catch three or four balls a game are gold. I know I rated guys a lot differently in our league knowing that the number of receptions would factor into it.

That's an impressive stable of backs, how many teams are in that league?


12 team league. i drafted good except QB. i drafted ben way late but he is out for 4 weeks so i picked up anderson for now and if he fials i got a back end trade of mcnabb for bush

my WRs are solid too. i got megatron, welker, cochery, royal, nicks, and knox
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:11 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 11 September 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:

12 team league. i drafted good except QB. i drafted ben way late but he is out for 4 weeks so i picked up anderson for now and if he fials i got a back end trade of mcnabb for bush

my WRs are solid too. i got megatron, welker, cochery, royal, nicks, and knox




Yeah, I went after Ben in our league. I waited late to get McNabb (I actually was hoping for someone a little better than that, but they piled off at one point) because I was targeting Big Ben. He'll pay dividends late in the season when the Steelers are desperate for wins to make the playoffs.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 08:19 AM

Im set at all my spots but 1...

Forsett or Moreno...who should I start at RB?
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:37 AM

View PostMerenguito, on 12 September 2010 - 09:19 AM, said:

Im set at all my spots but 1...

Forsett or Moreno...who should I start at RB?


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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:58 AM

Pick one for my RB2

Charles vs. SD
Greene vs. BAL
Moreno vs. JAX
Beanie vs. STL (banged up)
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 10:28 AM

View Postgojets3393, on 12 September 2010 - 09:58 AM, said:

Pick one for my RB2

Charles vs. SD
Greene vs. BAL
Moreno vs. JAX
Beanie vs. STL (banged up)


Charles. Baltimore will be better against the run than the pass, and Moreno is on the injured list (probable, but still). Wells is doubtful, actually having been downgraded.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 03:05 PM

View Postgojets3393, on 11 September 2010 - 04:19 PM, said:

f***!!! I wish you guys responded quicker. I accepted the trade! Well, i was worried about losing Mathews but figured he had somewhat rookie risk and I was better off with 3 studs at WR and playing the matchups between greene and Charles who should both be studs anyway.


Nicks is going to have an All Pro year. You got fleeced bro.
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 11:13 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 12 September 2010 - 03:05 PM, said:

Nicks is going to have an All Pro year. You got fleeced bro.


I was watching that Car-NYG game thinking, "sucks for him."
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Posted 12 September 2010 - 11:24 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 13 September 2010 - 12:13 AM, said:

I was watching that Car-NYG game thinking, "sucks for him."


You know the other guy told everyone he knows how he got Nicks & the rookie from SD for a couple of WRs.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:36 AM

I sat nicks in 2 leagues. that really sucked. plus i got screwed on the megatron TD that wasn't. I'm not off to a good start, Oh and my 1 and only TE got laid out by eli manning and knocked out of teh game
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