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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:46 PM) You got to think Revis has also never had this much talent around him
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:48 PM) all 3 of our wins we pretty much dominated in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:48 PM) Our defense has allowed the leagues best 13 PPG
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:49 PM) We beat us against Philly
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:50 PM) 4 turnovers and a Punt return TD
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:58 PM) If fitz can be smart with the ball and Marshall Decker and Ivory and stay healthy I think we can beat anyone
santana Icon : (05 October 2015 - 02:36 PM) http://www.sun-senti...1005-story.html
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:16 PM) I get it to a point why everyone is making a big deal about that missed call because difference between a win and a loss but I have never seen that call made in over 30 years of watching NFL so I guarantee that none of the fans , coaches or players new the rule. Yes the refs should know all the rules but they aren't computers and it's impossible for them to remember all the 1000's of rules. Especially an old rule no one but the officials ever heard of before. 22 new officials didn't help either. It took an old long time official now retired from officiating to tell the world the rule. Everyone and the officials will remember that rule from now on after all the media
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) Lions fans are b*tching like hell about it. We would be if it happened to us but I think it's a bad rule any way and should be scrapped. If the defense causes the offensive player to fumble in the end zone because the defense makes a good play I personally think it would be bullshit to give the fumbling team the ball back. If the ball went out of bounds on its own or if a player tried to recover it and the ball went out of the end zone it's not a penalty. Both cases are a touchback so I feel that giving the ball back to the offense that fumbled it because of the defense batting the ball out of the end zone if the offense recovered the ball it would be a td so it would be bullshit to give them the ball back because of a simple ball bat. Rule should really be changed
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:52 AM) guess I should enable a character limit for the shoutbox
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:53 AM) getting a bit out of hand
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
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Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:09 AM

Today, Sept. 3, marks the 40th anniversary of Vince Lombardi's death. Much has happened in the NFL since the legendary Packers coach passed, but his legacy lives on, growing stronger each day.

This is largely due to the wonderful stories that continue to circulate, both by word of mouth and by his dynamic presence that can be seen regularly in NFL Films programming on NFL Network (like this [url="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d810aeeb5/Top-Ten-Motivational-Coaches-Vince-Lombardi"]Top 10 Motivational Coaches[/url] video) and elsewhere (like [url="http://www.hulu.com/watch/123664/super-bowl-highlights-1968-super-bowl-green-bay-packers-vs-oakland-raiders"]Hulu.com[/url]).


[b]Predictions for 2010[/b]
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[url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81228d86"][b]NFC NORTH:[/b] Bears[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d8122911a"]Lions[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229756"]Packers[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d8122960b"]Vikings[/url]
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[url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d8121e77e"][b]NFC WEST:[/b] Cardinals[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229d9c"]49ers[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229def"]Seahawks[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229e28"]Rams[/url]
[url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81228bfe"][b]AFC EAST:[/b] Bills[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d812295cc"]Dolphins[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229633"]Patriots[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d812296e0"]Jets[/url]
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[url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229275"][b]AFC SOUTH:[/b] Texans[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229513"]Colts[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229551"]Jaguars[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229f04"]Titans[/url]
[url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d812290a9"][b]AFC WEST:[/b] Broncos[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d8122959a"]Chiefs[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229cb3"]Raiders[/url] | [url="http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d81229d62"]Chargers[/url] So on the day we honor Coach Lombardi it is fitting that I write a column on which teams I believe have the best shot at getting to Super Bowl XLV this season in Dallas and who will eventually hoist the Lombardi Trophy. That's not an easy task this year (or quite frankly, any year in this league). The preseason offers some clues, but it also can fool us into believing a team has Super Bowl qualifications, when it does not.

For example, last year the [url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG"]New York Giants[/url] looked nearly unbeatable, starting the regular season 5-0 and having the look of a Super Bowl team. Then injuries set in, and they could not overcome their deficiencies, which resulted in them not even making the playoffs. That raises a question: Will the same thing happen to the Packers this year?

Green Bay has looked super in the preseason, moving the ball at ease on defenses and having the look -- and feel -- of a Super Bowl team. Is it too early, or perhaps too obvious, to pick the Packers?

When I worked for the Raiders, Al Davis used to call me for information. Whenever I would give him something that might seem too obvious, he would always say, (and not politely), "I could have gotten that in the paper." The benefit of those conversations has always forced me to try and think outside the box, not fall for the obvious, and look deep below the surface for hidden clues.

What we know is this: The 2010 NFL champion will be a team that has mental toughness, can win all the short-yardage situations, is very effective in the red zone, and can score points.

The team that wins the Super Bowl will be in the top 10 of first-half point differential, and in the top five of rushing and passing attempts combined. We also know the Super Bowl champ, on defense, will be able to rush the passer, run a complex scheme, and be physical. That's how you create turnovers.

We also know homefield advantage is important, but not a necessity. We know the first-week bye in the playoffs is nice, but not a necessity. And we know, above and beyond everything, the Super Bowl champ will have a quarterback who plays at an extremely high level.

So who fits this profile?

[b]NFC forecast[/b]
The defending Super Bowl champs fit it perfectly. The Saints have all the ingredients to repeat, but even though they appear better on paper this year, history says winning back-to-back NFL championships is a difficult task.

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The Vikings meet all the requirements to be in the big game, but there are some doubts that [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/brettfavre/profile?id=FAV540222"]Brett Favre[/url] can duplicate his season from a year ago. Favre is even unsure about whether he can return to his '09 form, when he enjoyed a career year at age 40. Asking for another career year at his age (he will wake up the morning after the Vikings open up against the Saints next week 41 years old) is probably unreasonable.

Without wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/sidneyrice/profile?id=RIC161100"]Sidney Rice[/url], the Vikings will face more man-to-man press coverage this year, and most teams will copy Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' attacking style when facing Favre, who will need to prove early that he can move around and work the pocket with his bum ankle.

The Packers have that Super Bowl look. They are explosive on offense, and their defense can rush well enough to balance their deficiencies in the back end, where there are concerns with an ability to cover. But, like the Saints from a year ago, Green Bay can manufacture defense with the versatility of defensive coordinator Dom Capers' scheme.

The Packers are not perfect, but they fit the profile of a Super Bowl team. Yes, I know they are the obvious pick today, but I also know they look good on paper and even better on tape.

The team hosting the Super Bowl in 2010, the [url="http://www.nfl.com/teams/dallascowboys/profile?team=DAL"]Dallas Cowboys[/url], has not looked like a Super Bowl team in the preseason. On paper they meet the criteria, but on the field and in the film room they have some issues to overcome.

I know offensive coordinator Jason Garrett played it close to the vest this summer, not doing creative things to show his hand. Plus, the Cowboys are too talented to not move the ball this year, so this preseason blip should not be worrisome. What should, though, is their lack of talent and depth on the offensive line.

The Cowboys also need wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/dezbryant/profile?id=BRY336027"]Dez Bryant[/url] to be a playmaker, just not a rookie who tries to blend into the offense. Bryant will be counted on to make a explosive Cowboys offense even more explosive. He isn't expected to be a role player for them this year, but rather a significant one who can take some of the burden off [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/milesaustin/profile?id=AUS467198"]Miles Austin[/url], something that Roy Williams has been unable to accomplish.

The 49ers have a talented defense that is mentally tough, but on offense they are far from fitting the profile. They are going to play in many tight games, in part because their defense will keep them in every game, but also because they won't be able to score early enough to put games away. If they had made the trade for [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/donovanmcnabb/profile?id=MCN017517"]Donovan McNabb[/url], they would be my pick in the NFC, but they decided against it. Now they must live and die with Alex Smith at quarterback. My sense is they will eventually die.

[b]AFC forecast[/b]
There are so many teams in the AFC that fit the profile that it makes it difficult to pick just one. The Colts will always be standing in the final playoff line near the end of the season because of [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/peytonmanning/profile?id=MAN515097"]Peyton Manning[/url]. With Manning running the offense and running back [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/josephaddai/profile?id=ADD152616"]Joseph Addai[/url] looking more powerful, the Colts will be as good on offense as they were a year ago. With a defense that is very fast and most effective in the red zone, the Colts will be a tough team to beat.

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The Dolphins are a solid team that can execute with physical toughness. Even though they have a difficult schedule, they are one of the toughest-minded team's in the league, which fits the profile of an NFL champ. Wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/brandonmarshall/profile?id=MAR370922"]Brandon Marshall[/url] has to be explosive, consistent and healthy all year to make an impact.

The Bengals, Steelers and Ravens are all really good teams that meet the criteria and could be Super Bowl contenders, but can they endure the struggles of playing in the AFC North? These teams might beat up on one another all season, resulting in losing critical players. As much as I like all three, I know the NFL is a war of attrition.

The Jets are everyone's preseason pick because they finished so strong last season. Expectations are high in New York, but the team has some concerns on the offensive line at left guard. The Jets have to play their style, or else they will not even make the playoffs.

[b]The verdict[/b]
So, where does all this lead us? Back to where we began, with Lombardi, or more precisely, his Packers. Yes, sometimes even the obvious is the answer.

I believe Super Bowl XLV will have Green Bay and San Diego playing for the title. I love the Packers to win it all this year because they fit the profile and their experience from last season -- falling just short in an [url="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010011000/2009/POST18/packers@cardinals/recap"]epic playoff game against the Cardinals[/url] -- has left them hungry for more. The Packers are talented, well-coached, and have youthful players that will improve as the season goes along. They also have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronrodgers/profile?id=ROD339293"]Aaron Rodgers[/url].

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:16 AM

Be Sure to check out the teams prediction on those links above. we play all the favorites this season except the saints.
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