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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) How many starters are back from last year?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:23 PM) They had to let defensive players go too. And that's why they refused to pay Chancellor. They don't have the money
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) Most of the Defense is back from last season.. who besides the 2nd CB do they not have?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) I don't know how many starters. I didn't look through the whole active roster from last year to this year. But I know they let a good many starters go too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:25 PM) Anyway we need them to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) it puts us in a 4 way tie for the WC
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) Maybe Hou can win the division
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) They had to let a corner and safety go from the defense and some dline from the starting line up. And some players on the online too
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:27 PM) That's why Russel isn't getting protection and Lynch is having a down year
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:28 PM) Yeah but you need to chr
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:29 PM) check my list of tiebreakers we are down in division and conference games. If the Jets don't beat the Bills and win most of the conference games no playoffs
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:31 PM) Plus we are down in schedule strength to everyone in the hunt for the playoffs except Houston but they have the win and tiebreaker against the Jets
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:32 PM) Oh and also the Bills are below us in schedule strength but have a win against us so have tiebreaker for now
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:33 PM) Chiefs have the easy schedule in the league got the rest of the season so chances of them not getting in are slim
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) Chiefs and Stelers are in the drivers seat
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) Right but there is a lot of games to go still
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) who knows maybe we beat Tenn NYG Dal and Buf
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 10-6?? Maybe
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 1 game at a time I agree
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) KC and Oakland have to play each other twice
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:38 PM) Pitt Still has to play Cinn and Denver
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Who they may beat.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) We just need Sea to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Game over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Hawks win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) Well if they make the PAT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) My bad I thought Pitt had 0 timeouts left
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:46 PM) I don't trust Denver against any good team with their backup qb in. I except the Chiefs to overtake the division. They really don't trust him either since an injured Manning is the #2 qb. He barely won last week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Ben is hurt now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Don't think its anything big tho
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:48 PM) But Steelers losing today and if they lose against the Bengals would help
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:55 PM) Ben has a possible concussion
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) And Pitt plays Indy next week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 PM) If Pittsburgh lose it help if indy lose Houston might be in 1st and have a tie breaker over indy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 PM) I just can't wait for Sunday. Me and my brother are going to the game. He's a giants fan. So somebody is going home mad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Where is frosty??.and his MIGHTY DOLPHINS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) Marshall is 70 yards away from being our 1st 1000 yard receiver since cotch in 07
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) f*** new England!! And gronk is hurt
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) Nice to see the Pats won't have an undefeated season. That said the wheat her made the difference. Brady is accurate as heck and the snow affected the pass timing with the wr's
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) Without the snow I couldn't see the Broncos winning that game. But again great to see the Pats chance at a perfect season go down the tubes
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 02:21 PM) Brandon Marshall is the best WR I've seen on the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 02:23 PM) How bad is Marcus Williams injury?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 02:23 PM) I like how this guy has 5 INTs in limited playing time, he reminds me of Asante Samuel
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 04:14 PM) After both losses to the Jets this year Miami fired some coaches. LOL
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 05:05 PM) Jets = Coach killers
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Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:42 AM

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[b][size="4"][url="http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/09/08/jets-looking-to-build-front-seven-depth-and-do-it-cheaply/"]Jets Looking to Build Front Seven Depth, and Do it Cheaply?[/url][/size][/b]
[size="4"]By [url="http://thejetsblog.com/"]Bassett[/url] on 08. Sep, 2010[/size]


[size="4"]In last week’s Hard Knocks, Mike Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan discussed the downside of signing high priced talent like Revis, Brick Mangold and others … that there’s not a lot of money to spend elsewhere in the coming years. So what to do? Are Jets are already heading off the salary cap at the proverbial pass?[/size]

[size="4"]While the team has shrewdly used overvalued (by others) draft picks over the past few years (Jenkins, Edwards, Holmes) to amass talent, the Jets have still done quite well for themselves in their then more limited drafting, like the 2009 class (Sanchez, Greene, Slauson) which now boasts a 100% rate of return on starters.[/size]


[size="4"]With all the ways that the team has been able to upgrade, the Jets now have more of a luxury to start looking at deeper impact via their drafts with players like Wilson, Conner and Ducasse in this draft class. While these guys aren’t traditional starters right now, it’s not going to be long before at least two of the three are.[/size]

[size="4"]So with the more forward looking strategy, are the Jets trying a new turn by collecting young talents that other teams might have too quickly soured on? Look no further than Cody Brown, Jarron Gilbert & Marcus Dixon (more on him later). The first two players were drafted before the 70th pick of the 2009 draft class, and who are now on the Jets practice squad, while Dixon was an UDFA in ’08.[/size]

[size="4"]As the defensive line has aged, I’ve wanted the Jets to draft some more defensive front seven players in the past few years. Since 2005, the team has only drafted two players who’ve really stayed in the picture: David Harris and Vernon Gholston. Adding Brown & Gilbert, at little cost, comes with a risk .. they could be all-out busts … but also could be great moves for a team that in two years time might not be able to spend big free agent dollars.[/size]

[size="4"][b]Jarron Gilbert
[/b][i]6-5 / 285 / San Jose State / 3rd rd. (68 overall)
[/i][b]Analysis:[/b] Famed YouTube [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw"]pool jumper-outer[/url], the son of a former NFL player (Daren Gilbert, Saints 85-88), Gilbert led the NCAA as a senior with 22 TFL and 9.5 sacks in 2008. Athletically, Gilbert is a freak: 4.76 40 time, 35.5 vert … not bad for a 6-5 285 pounder. Ryan must see the promise in Gilbert, a player he liked enough to fly to SJ State’s Pro Day to work out during the spring of ’09. It’s no secret that Ryan was looking to get younger on his line this year via the draft (Odrick), but Gilbert could be a very nice project for the Jets. Built to be a pure 4-3 Tackle / 3-4 End in Ryan’s scheme, coupled with his athleticism could be a very nice combination down the road.[/size]

[size="4"]Since being drafted, the Bears have looked for more “impact plays” from him and were disappointed with the results. While a player like Ropati Pitoitua held promise for the Jets this season, it came from a few years of working with him to help him better understand leverage. The same is true for Gilbert, he needs to better understand technique to make an NFL squad, and there’s none better than Ryan’s guys to teach him how to put it together. While it might take some patience … the good news for the Jets? No one else put in a waiver claim on Gilbert, meaning that Gilbert might be a safe option to keep in the squad for the whole year. Even if another team tried to sign him, Gilbert has to sign the deal too, so Rex might be able to convince him that staying with the Jets on the practice squad would be the best thing even if just for a year as he could be a solid contributor in a year or so for this defense.[/size]

[size="4"][b]Cody Brown
[/b][i]6-2 / 244 // UConn / 2nd rd. ’09 (63 overall)
[/i][b]Analysis:[/b] Part of the ’09 NFL Draft busting class (Donald Brown, Darius Butler, Will Beatty) from UConn, Brown was a second rounder who was a work in progress, but who had tons of upside and who went to the Cardinals at the end of the second round. As a junior, Brown had 16.5 TFL and 7.5 sacks. A solid athlete, Brown tested well but did have a disappointing Combine 40-time of 4.84 and rebounded during his Pro Day (4.60). During his draft process, he was mentioned alongside names like Clint Sintim, Brian Cushing, and Tyrone McKenzie. A converted DE, Brown plays bigger than his size and looks to be a possible 3-4 rush linebacker (Rush End) or maybe an ILB for the Jets if they don’t like him there. Brown has solid pass rush and run defense skills which would make one assume that if they could work on his tackling in space and coverage skills, they would try him out as an outside linebacker first because he plays above his size, but that he might be an insider.[/size]



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Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:20 AM

Oh that's where I know Jarron Gilbert from. No doubt. I hope maybe he can develop into a solid DE.

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