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MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:23 PM) I HATE THIS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:24 PM) Dolphins looking to take us out next week also
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:24 PM) I think Mangold has a broken wrist
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:34 PM) Jets 4th loss by 7 points or less. I all 4 of them the jets had the Ball with under 2 mins to go with a chance to tie or win the game
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:36 PM) yessssssssssssssss
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:53 PM) So now we have to pull for the Pats against the Bills to stay even with them
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vjdbbq Icon : (22 November 2015 - 06:11 PM) I don't want to see Geno !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 11:42 PM) Report is mangold has a severe cut on his hand
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 02:12 AM) Jets playoff hopes are seriously on the edge of going down the drain with all the close records, tie breakers and better division win %.Steelers and Chiefs are prime for the 2 wild card spots. Jets pretty much need to run the table at this point for even a shot at a wildcard.
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 02:14 AM) Sucks big time after the season started so promising. 4-1 to total implosion. It sucks even more because we are so used to it we expect it every year now.
vjdbbq Icon : (23 November 2015 - 08:52 AM) Nice ass rob
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 12:31 PM) Jets cut copels today
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 12:32 PM) Coples
NJAzrael71 Icon : (23 November 2015 - 01:24 PM) Scott20119.....how about you go troll and spam some other site? Spammers can go f*** themselves.
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:39 PM) vjdbbq you have some serious metal and IQ issues. Why dont you go back to your old ways of never posting when you had only 5 or 6 posts since your join date in 07.
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:39 PM) mental
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:49 PM) Thanks for the news MGG. If the FO didn't try to shop him before the trade deadline it was stupid because releasing him now they get nothing. Maybe no one would've traded but if so even a 6th or 7th round draft pick or someone the team might be able to use would've been better than nothing
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:51 PM) He sucked this year but did have a career best 6.5 sacks in 2014 so a team change might work out for him.
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) Couples will land on the Bills when Rex grabs him off waivers
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:37 PM) in the mean time does anyone think we would have a better record under Rex with this same team?
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:53 PM) Couples....it wouldn't surprise me and .....with Rex its hard to tell. His defensive scheming may be the best in football but this team has had a lot of injuries on both sides of the ball which has absolutely cost the team at least 3 games ......so as far as better record. it would be simply an opinion. Bowles has done a good job so I have no problems with him other than time out usage. That said I feel rex got a bad rap because he never had a qb even on Fitz caliber and Fitz is just average. But that is in the past so no sense even debating about it now. Rex is with a new team and we finally have a qb who doesn't completely suck. Still wish we had a true high level franchise qb though.
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:34 PM) Watching the game and I am finding myself yelling at the bills offensive playcalling
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:34 PM) Just stipupidity
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:35 PM) run the ball every time on first and second with zero sucess
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:36 PM) Out D is no where near as good as it should be under Bowles. I'm not sure why. I guess it's easy to blame Bowles but the bend and don't break philosophy isn't working
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:39 PM) They should ban that pick play.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 11:54 PM) As bad as we have played lately we are still a better coached team without Rex. Rex still has no clue how to manage the clock
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 November 2015 - 12:03 AM) See. Can't manage the clock
vjdbbq Icon : (24 November 2015 - 08:05 AM) Hello Rob
vjdbbq Icon : (24 November 2015 - 08:06 AM) They cut coples to save money in case he got hurt practicing since he hardly played ; a business move .
Jetsfan115 Icon : (24 November 2015 - 12:58 PM) our D was better with shit CBs last year. rex is just better at calling a defense then bowles
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 02:37 PM) coples picked up by miami. we play him on sunday now lol
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:08 PM) We need a real edge rusher
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:08 PM) We are gonna trade Richardson or Wilkerson after this season, hopefully we can then get a edge rusher to compliment them
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:10 PM) I never wanted the Jets to draft Coples, he was clearly going to be a bust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:10 PM) hes not athletic enough for OLB either, doesn't have enough fluidity in the hips. He can be a decent player, but he needs to be a interior pass rusher
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Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:42 AM

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[b][size="4"][url="http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/09/08/jets-looking-to-build-front-seven-depth-and-do-it-cheaply/"]Jets Looking to Build Front Seven Depth, and Do it Cheaply?[/url][/size][/b]
[size="4"]By [url="http://thejetsblog.com/"]Bassett[/url] on 08. Sep, 2010[/size]


[size="4"]In last week’s Hard Knocks, Mike Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan discussed the downside of signing high priced talent like Revis, Brick Mangold and others … that there’s not a lot of money to spend elsewhere in the coming years. So what to do? Are Jets are already heading off the salary cap at the proverbial pass?[/size]

[size="4"]While the team has shrewdly used overvalued (by others) draft picks over the past few years (Jenkins, Edwards, Holmes) to amass talent, the Jets have still done quite well for themselves in their then more limited drafting, like the 2009 class (Sanchez, Greene, Slauson) which now boasts a 100% rate of return on starters.[/size]


[size="4"]With all the ways that the team has been able to upgrade, the Jets now have more of a luxury to start looking at deeper impact via their drafts with players like Wilson, Conner and Ducasse in this draft class. While these guys aren’t traditional starters right now, it’s not going to be long before at least two of the three are.[/size]

[size="4"]So with the more forward looking strategy, are the Jets trying a new turn by collecting young talents that other teams might have too quickly soured on? Look no further than Cody Brown, Jarron Gilbert & Marcus Dixon (more on him later). The first two players were drafted before the 70th pick of the 2009 draft class, and who are now on the Jets practice squad, while Dixon was an UDFA in ’08.[/size]

[size="4"]As the defensive line has aged, I’ve wanted the Jets to draft some more defensive front seven players in the past few years. Since 2005, the team has only drafted two players who’ve really stayed in the picture: David Harris and Vernon Gholston. Adding Brown & Gilbert, at little cost, comes with a risk .. they could be all-out busts … but also could be great moves for a team that in two years time might not be able to spend big free agent dollars.[/size]

[size="4"][b]Jarron Gilbert
[/b][i]6-5 / 285 / San Jose State / 3rd rd. (68 overall)
[/i][b]Analysis:[/b] Famed YouTube [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw"]pool jumper-outer[/url], the son of a former NFL player (Daren Gilbert, Saints 85-88), Gilbert led the NCAA as a senior with 22 TFL and 9.5 sacks in 2008. Athletically, Gilbert is a freak: 4.76 40 time, 35.5 vert … not bad for a 6-5 285 pounder. Ryan must see the promise in Gilbert, a player he liked enough to fly to SJ State’s Pro Day to work out during the spring of ’09. It’s no secret that Ryan was looking to get younger on his line this year via the draft (Odrick), but Gilbert could be a very nice project for the Jets. Built to be a pure 4-3 Tackle / 3-4 End in Ryan’s scheme, coupled with his athleticism could be a very nice combination down the road.[/size]

[size="4"]Since being drafted, the Bears have looked for more “impact plays” from him and were disappointed with the results. While a player like Ropati Pitoitua held promise for the Jets this season, it came from a few years of working with him to help him better understand leverage. The same is true for Gilbert, he needs to better understand technique to make an NFL squad, and there’s none better than Ryan’s guys to teach him how to put it together. While it might take some patience … the good news for the Jets? No one else put in a waiver claim on Gilbert, meaning that Gilbert might be a safe option to keep in the squad for the whole year. Even if another team tried to sign him, Gilbert has to sign the deal too, so Rex might be able to convince him that staying with the Jets on the practice squad would be the best thing even if just for a year as he could be a solid contributor in a year or so for this defense.[/size]

[size="4"][b]Cody Brown
[/b][i]6-2 / 244 // UConn / 2nd rd. ’09 (63 overall)
[/i][b]Analysis:[/b] Part of the ’09 NFL Draft busting class (Donald Brown, Darius Butler, Will Beatty) from UConn, Brown was a second rounder who was a work in progress, but who had tons of upside and who went to the Cardinals at the end of the second round. As a junior, Brown had 16.5 TFL and 7.5 sacks. A solid athlete, Brown tested well but did have a disappointing Combine 40-time of 4.84 and rebounded during his Pro Day (4.60). During his draft process, he was mentioned alongside names like Clint Sintim, Brian Cushing, and Tyrone McKenzie. A converted DE, Brown plays bigger than his size and looks to be a possible 3-4 rush linebacker (Rush End) or maybe an ILB for the Jets if they don’t like him there. Brown has solid pass rush and run defense skills which would make one assume that if they could work on his tackling in space and coverage skills, they would try him out as an outside linebacker first because he plays above his size, but that he might be an insider.[/size]



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Posted 08 September 2010 - 09:20 AM

Oh that's where I know Jarron Gilbert from. No doubt. I hope maybe he can develop into a solid DE.

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