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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
santana Icon : (07 October 2015 - 12:52 AM) guess I should enable a character limit for the shoutbox
santana Icon : (07 October 2015 - 12:53 AM) getting a bit out of hand
Jetsman05 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 01:32 PM

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The Super Bowl mission starts Monday night in a sparkling $1.6 billion stadium. In reality, it began Jan. 24 on a charter bus outside Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, where Rex Ryan turned to Mike Tannenbaum and said, "I want basketball players."

The New York Jets had just lost the AFC Championship Game to the Colts, in part, because their secondary was banged up and overmatched. Nickelback Donald Strickland was injured early in the game and, aside from Darrelle Revis, the Jets didn't have enough athleticism at cornerback to keep up in the Indy 500 -- Peyton Manning's fast-paced passing attack.

So Ryan, already plotting revenge, told his general manager on the ride to the Indianapolis airport that he needed basketball-type athletes, lithe and long. No names were mentioned, but Tannenbaum knew what had to be done. In essence, he was handed his to-do list for the next three months.

In a 48-day span, from March 5 to April 21, the Jets rocked the NFL by acquiring two surefire Hall of Famers, a former Super Bowl MVP and a former All-Pro -- LaDainian Tomlinson and Jason Taylor, Santonio Holmes and Antonio Cromartie, respectively.

They did it without breaking the bank and without mortgaging the future. Total bill for the two free-agent signings and two trades: about $6 million in guarantees, a third-round pick and a fifth-round pick. And they got it done despite severe spending restrictions placed on the final eight teams because of the uncapped league year.

The Jets knew the type of player they wanted, but, unlike past offseasons, they didn't have a blueprint with a priority list of names. They went with the flow, seizing opportunities as they developed. Sometimes an organization has to set aside the script and work on the fly. The Jets did that over seven weeks, completing what they believe is a championship-caliber roster.

A look back at how Tannenbaum got his men:

Fittingly, it started in Indianapolis, scene of The Defeat.

At the scouting combine in early March, Tannenbaum heard that the San Diego Chargers were trying to trade Cromartie, once regarded as a rising defensive star. Tannenbaum and Ryan looked at each other and wondered the same thing: "Why is a talented player like this available?"

Inside Lucas Oil Stadium, where the draft-eligible players were working out for NFL scouts, Tannenbaum visited the Chargers' work box and met with GM A.J. Smith and coach Norv Turner to discuss a possible trade.

Only six weeks earlier, the Jets had stunned the Chargers in the playoffs, putting Turner on the hot seat. But now Turner was dangling a commodity, a player Ryan absolutely loved out of Florida State in 2006. Tannenbaum smelled an opportunity. That meeting provided the groundwork for the trade, but Tannenbaum wanted to dig into Cromartie's checkered past, which included paternity issues and attitude questions.

JoJo Wooden, the Jets' assistant personnel director, called former Chargers defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell, who coached Cromartie in his breakout year, 2007. Cottrell, a former Jets coordinator, gave a positive recommendation.

"Rex has the right type of demeanor," Cottrell told Wooden. "There's not going to be any problem. Just don't B.S. him."

Twenty-four hours after returning from Indianapolis, Tannenbaum finalized the trade from his home in central New Jersey, notifying Ryan and owner Woody Johnson in a late-night e-mail. On March 5, the first day of free agency, the deal was announced. The Jets were prohibited from signing any unrestricted free agents, but they stole the headlines anyway -- a harbinger.

Ryan had his basketball player, a 6-2 cornerback with freakish athletic ability. The team would add another corner, Kyle Wilson, in the first round of the draft.

Also on March 5, the Jets made an unpopular move, releasing leading rusher Thomas Jones in a salary-related dump. They lined up three potential replacements: Larry Johnson, Willie Parker and Tomlinson, each of whom had been released. That meant the "Final Eight" rules didn't apply; they were fair game to the Jets, who discovered Tomlinson was meeting with the Minnesota Vikings.

"We had to put on a full-court press," Tannenbaum said. "We thought Minnesota was closing in fast."

The team persuaded Tomlinson to visit the facility in Florham Park, but his recruiting trip involved more than a red-carpet tour.

Knowing Tomlinson's wife, LaTorsha, was in the middle of an at-risk pregnancy, the Jets introduced him to team doctor Ken Montgomery. Five years earlier, LaTorsha had suffered a miscarriage at sixth months. Montgomery assured Tomlinson that his wife would receive world-class care at the Atlantic Health hospital in Morristown, N.J.

Tomlinson also received a tour of New Meadowlands Stadium. Because construction still was ongoing, he was required to wear a hard hat. The Jets gave him a custom-made hat -- green, with his famous No. 21. At the end of the tour, Tomlinson asked whether he could keep it.

"I thought that was a really good sign," Tannenbaum said.

On the way to dinner at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., Tannenbaum received a call from his boss, Johnson, who wanted to speak with the Canton-bound recruit. Tannenbaum handed the phone to Tomlinson.

"His face lit up," Tannenbaum said. "At the end of the conversation, he said, 'Wow, the owner of the New York Jets called me.' I think that really impressed him."

The dinner party included Tannenbaum and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, and their wives, along with quarterback Mark Sanchez and running backs coach Anthony Lynn. The next day, Tomlinson flew back to San Diego and make his decision to sign with the Jets -- two years, $5.2 million.

In July, LaTorsha gave birth to the couple's first child, a healthy boy.

April 10 was a relatively quiet Saturday around the Jets' offices -- until Tannenbaum received a call from the Pittsburgh Steelers, who were looking to trade Holmes. The Steelers wanted to do it quickly.

Tannenbaum wanted feedback from Ryan, so he called downstairs to the coach's assistant, Laura Young. She said Ryan was in his office, being interviewed by a reporter. Tannenbaum told her to buzz Ryan's line and ask him to flash a thumbs-up or thumbs-down through the glass window.

Ryan delivered his response in person. He sprinted upstairs, barged into Tannenbaum's office and exclaimed, "Hell, yes!"

Tannenbaum asked whether he needed to watch some film of Holmes.

"F---, no," Ryan said. "That f---er cost me a ring."

Ryan was alluding to a 65-yard touchdown against his former team, the Baltimore Ravens, in the 2008 AFC title game.

No doubt, Holmes was a talent, but there were off-the-field issues, including a looming four-game suspension for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.

Tannenbaum and Johnson met for an hour to discuss the pros and cons -- a "robust debate," the GM called it. They solicited advice from team psychologist Sara Hickmann and player development director Dave Szott, trying to figure out whether they could create a structured environment for Holmes.

"Ultimately, we decided the uncertainty was outweighed by talent," Tannenbaum said.

At 7 p.m. Sunday, he finalized the deal for a song, a fifth-round pick. He e-mailed Johnson and Ryan with the news.

"Wow," Tannenbaum thought to himself, "I can't believe I just got Santonio Holmes."

The Jets experienced their usual Midnight Madness a month late -- and in the middle of the day.

On April 2, when kicker Jay Feely bolted for the Arizona Cardinals, the Jets finally were allowed to sign an unrestricted free agent. They tried to create a sense of urgency, making like it was March 5. The office staff buzzed with activity.

Get Taylor's agent on the phone. Get Taylor on a flight to New Jersey. Get an itinerary planned.

When Taylor arrived, he visited Trump National (he's an avid golfer) and toured the new stadium, where the scoreboard flashed "Jason Taylor 99" and showed a montage of action photos. As he stood next to Taylor, it suddenly occurred to Tannenbaum that one of the most despised opponents in team history could become a Jet -- "a surreal feeling," he said.

"I hated him," said Tannenbaum, recalling Taylor's days as a Miami Dolphin. "But while hating him, I admired him."

After the stadium, Taylor, Tannenbaum and Ryan took a helicopter tour of Manhattan. The Empire State Building. Central Park. Yankee Stadium. Truth be told, the trip went long and, with three full-size men in the passenger seat, it became a bit cozy. Finally, they landed for dinner at Il Postino in Manhattan.

Displaying his trademark bravado, Ryan told Taylor the Jets were going to have the league's No. 1 defense again -- with or without him. But they wanted another pass-rusher, someone to help protect fourth-quarter leads, and Ryan felt Taylor was perfect.

On April 21, Taylor jumped to the dark side, becoming a Jet.

Nearly eight months after the bus conversation from the AFC title game to the Indianapolis airport ("I want basketball players"), the Jets open the season against Baltimore.

In the moments before kickoff, Tannenbaum will be thinking of all the people who made this possible, including the not-so-obvious people.

The team doctor. The team psychologist. The video department. The people who made the hard hat.

"A total team effort," Tannenbaum said. "I'm proud of the whole organization."

Now all they have to do is win. A lot.

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 02:12 PM

Great read!

Tanny knows how to do his job very well. Shmooz and you will receive. If Tomlinson works and I think he will, that story should go down in NYJ history.

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 02:46 PM

Tannenbaum certainly knows how to pull a trade/FA signing off.

The image of Rex Ryan sprinting upstairs isn't a pretty one though!

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 02:50 PM

Tannenbaum asked whether he needed to watch some film of Holmes.

"F---, no," Ryan said. "That f---er cost me a ring."

I loved this!
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