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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:34 PM

STUDS:

Mike DeVito
Darrelle Revis
Shaun Ellis
Sione Pouha
David Harris
Jason Taylor
Bryan Thomas
Bart Scott
(The FRONT 7)

DUDS:

EVERYONE ELSE-
Mark Sanchez
Rex Ryan
Brian Schottenhiemer
Cromartie
Wilson
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:37 PM

I am so f***ing sick of Brian Schottenheimer. I've been on this board for years now, you know me, I'm not a knee jerk reaction fan boy. But what the f*** man? SChottenheimer has never done anything with this offense. Five years and it's never been good, so can anyone tell me why people seem to think he's a good coordinator and a head coaching candidate?

This loss to me falls squarely on the shoulders of Schottenheimer's shitty offense.

PS - Jetsman...you still think guards don't matter? Slauson almost got Sanchez's knee blown out. Every single player on the field matters...you can't have any weak links.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:39 PM

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:43 PM

Slauson got beat on the one play. I never said guards just DON'T MATTER. I just don't want a guard drafted highly+paid highly.

And yes, Schotty was f***ing awful.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:44 PM


STUDS:
Pouha
Ellis
Weatherford
Folk
LT

Duds:
Greene
Shittyheimer
Keller
J-CO (It hurts for me to say that)
Wilson
Cromartie

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:45 PM

Thomlinson was the only offensive stud
Leonard was a stud on defense once again
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:46 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 13 September 2010 - 10:34 PM, said:

STUDS:

Mike DeVito
Darrelle Revis
Shaun Ellis
Sione Pouha
David Harris
Jason Taylor
Bryan Thomas
Bart Scott
(The FRONT 7)

DUDS:

EVERYONE ELSE-
Mark Sanchez
Rex Ryan
Brian Schottenhiemer
Cromartie
Wilson



Agreed - I'd cut Cro and especially Wilson a little slack - over exposed against a blitz that didn't get it done

Add Greene - disaster...fumble changed the game

Rex/Pettine - arrogantly stuck to blitz despite getting repeatedly torched by Flacco or pens...OUTCOACHED...they read the blitz easily

Shotty - disgusting...highlight was the 3 runs leading to 3 and out...HE WAS AFRAID OF RAVENS REPUTATION DESPITE THEM HAVING A POOR SECONDARY...EPIC CHOKE..JETS FOOTBALL ???????

that was the worst o performance since Brister and co under Kotite
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:46 PM

All I know is that I feel sorry for the defense.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:49 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 13 September 2010 - 09:37 PM, said:

I am so f***ing sick of Brian Schottenheimer. I've been on this board for years now, you know me, I'm not a knee jerk reaction fan boy. But what the f*** man? SChottenheimer has never done anything with this offense. Five years and it's never been good, so can anyone tell me why people seem to think he's a good coordinator and a head coaching candidate?

This loss to me falls squarely on the shoulders of Schottenheimer's shitty offense.

PS - Jetsman...you still think guards don't matter? Slauson almost got Sanchez's knee blown out. Every single player on the field matters...you can't have any weak links.


At halftime I knew I was putting Schottenheimer down as a dud, looking forward to it. Total, F'ing joke. At halftime did someone say, "hey Brian, try something different," or not? I think probably running on first, checking down to the running back, and then trying to throw deep on third probably was getting predictable to Baltimore. Terrible, terrible game calling. With a bad passing defense our running game was the focus; someone needs their ass chewed. And Mark got screwed on this game. All last season he was told to play conservative. He should have called his own USC plays on this one, because the run game did him nothing.

Having said that:

Duds:

Leonhard (all over the place, that one to heap you know Heap is faster)
Schotty
Greene (27 combined for the breakout player of the year)
Slauson
Rex Ryan
the ref who called the penalty on the FG
Wilson and Cro (more Wilson than Cro, at least he had a couple decent plays)
third down defense

Studs:
Revis
Tomlinson
Thomas
Weatherford
Beer (for the last three quarters)

A special mention dud to anyone saying Revis would cave in after Cro and Wilson played well early in the season. After the game our non-Revis CBs had he would be getting a 185+ million dollar contract.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 10:36 PM

Studs:

The Defense for only allowin 10 points wen our O was playin horrrribly...

Duds:

Everyone Fuckin Else ESPECIALLY SCHOTTY!!!

i said it last year we should of got rid of Schotty a long time ago!!!! First Pennington,then Favre,now Sanchez,that guy is just stranglin QB's!
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 10:54 PM

Studs
LT
Bryan Thomas
Shaun Ellis
Jason Taylor
Bart Scott
Pohua
(basically the entire front seven)
Eric Smith
Jimmy Leonhard
Cromartie (gets both)
Revis

Duds
Shonn Greene
Dustin Keller
Pass protection from the o-line
MARK SANCHEZ
Cochery
Edwards
Entire offense minus LT
brick
Schotty
Get it done MT
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 02:28 AM

Schotty can forget about being a HC. His playcalling is mind boggling.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 03:08 AM

DUDS: Shitty Schotty ! Damn son. YOU SUCK!!!!! How is Sanchez supposed to build confidence when you call peewee play calls. Tell Sanchez to throw vertical!! I think Sanchez is scared to throw picks along with schotty.
Man they sucked. Three run plays WTF !!! 0 confidence 0 creativity, get rid of SHOT OUT SHOTTY, his offense is plain out LAME and Pathetic !!!! :anger-32:

I AGREE ON THIS 100%
I am so f***ing sick of Brian Schottenheimer. I've been on this board for years now, you know me, I'm not a knee jerk reaction fan boy. But what the f*** man? SChottenheimer has never done anything with this offense. Five years and it's never been good, so can anyone tell me why people seem to think he's a good coordinator and a head coaching candidate?

This loss to me falls squarely on the shoulders of Schottenheimer's shitty offense.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 04:28 AM

what hurts the most is that the o played to lose...if you see what i mean...against decent run D we can't do shit. Got worse as it went on...Shotty has no idea how to use the talent. the three telegraphed runs in a row was beyond predictable and then they finally throw a bomb on 3rd and 3. We have no short/mid range passing game.

The D must be disgusted...if I was Bart I'd be getting in someone's face. It's almost like they are playing ultra cautious in the expectation that the D can win it on it's own...pathetic. Playcalling and execution was appalling
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:31 AM

Studs:
The front seven - shut down Ray Rice the majority of the game and gave their offense hell during the opening quarter and a half
Revis - continually shut whoever - preodminantly Mason - he was covering
LT - a couple of good long runs, the only positive on offense

Duds:
Cromartie - bar the interception he was getting picked on and gave up too many catches
Wilson - a rough start to his career in his first competitive game. Gave up the penalty that led to the TD, but that wouldn't have occurred had Braylon not been called harshly for running into the kicker
Sanchez - whether Schottenheimer kept the reigns on him on purpose, I don't know, but Sanchez was far too tentative. I don't want him to be scared of throwing an interception, rather I want him to be as confident as he was in the postseason
Greene - the lack of touches in the second half showed how poor a game he had; I thought his fumbling issues were behind him
Playcalling on both sides of the ball - I love Rex's aggresive schemes on defence, but they do get predictable, and when you're constantly giving up conversions on third down surely there comes a time when you have to dial things down and give the CBs some safety help or mix in a couple of zones? Enough has been said about the offense already
Team discipline - far too many cheap penalties

Half duds:
Leonhard - how did he not beat the punter and take that return in the first half to the house?! He also IMO could have thrown a block at Flacco on Cro's INT return
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 06:20 AM

It's sad thing when our punter was our best offensive player.

Front 7 excellent.

The rest of the jokers need a huge wake up call. Stayed up until 3am to watch that display.
I've followed the Jets for almost 30 years and that was right up there with the worse performance ever.

The Pats will put 50 on us next week.
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