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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 09:44 PM

can we really look at this as a disappointment? sure we can. the O was terrible and the D was solid. we held a super bowl contending team to 10 points. this was a game we def should have won if our O showed up to play. All we can do now is just get ready for Sunday. People dont freak we'll be fine. One game wont kill the season.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 11:17 PM

get used to this type of game. they are gonna be like this week in and week out. only we will be on the good end more times then not. We should have won this game 9-6 and i'll take that any day of the week!
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 02:02 AM

Well if we cant score a single td on offense I cant see this team coming out on top more often than not. If it goes this way each week all a team has to do is get a td and we lose
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 02:33 AM

Our offense looked as bad as it did all of August. Those who said "Relax, it's just preseason" were wrong, this is our offense... and it's horrible.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:51 AM

WE got robbed. The only way the ravens could move the ball was thru B.S penalties. The offense didn't help with Greene fumbling twice and Keller who had brain freeze and forgot where the marker was. The offense needs to get it together next week. The refs did a horrible job last night
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 07:09 AM

LOL. If the Jets hadn't committed the penalties they wouldn't have been called. You're grasping at straws.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 07:55 AM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 14 September 2010 - 08:09 AM, said:

LOL. If the Jets hadn't committed the penalties they wouldn't have been called. You're grasping at straws.


The K steps on Edwards and he gets flagged? That's just as dumb as the Calvin Johnson no-catch rule. Score should've been 9-6.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 12:22 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 14 September 2010 - 02:02 AM, said:

Well if we cant score a single td on offense I cant see this team coming out on top more often than not. If it goes this way each week all a team has to do is get a td and we lose


I'm pretty sure we will score a offensive TD at some point during the season. (although after last night's performance it doesn't look likely) My point being, most of our games will be low scoring. That will give us a shot at some point late in the game to either go head or hold our opponent when we have a lead.

The Defense will carry this team no doubt, but this is nothing new. Last year very few games were won by the offense and even more were LOST by the offense.

The O needs to stop with all the BS line of scrimmage tomfoolery. They ain't fooling anyone with the multiple formations, shifts and hard counts. Get to the line, snap the fu#*en' ball, control the line of scrimmage, believe in the run and use the pass as the dagger.
And when the D gives you a short field put points on the fu@#en' board!
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 01:21 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 September 2010 - 08:55 AM, said:

The K steps on Edwards and he gets flagged? That's just as dumb as the Calvin Johnson no-catch rule. Score should've been 9-6.

Its the rule. He committed the penalty, so it should have been called. If it was the other way around you would say the same thing. Control your body and don't end up where the kicker is bringing down his foot if you don't get to the kick.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 01:26 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 14 September 2010 - 01:21 PM, said:

Its the rule. He committed the penalty, so it should have been called. If it was the other way around you would say the same thing. Control your body and don't end up where the kicker is bringing down his foot if you don't get to the kick.


It's not the intention of the rule to penalize a player laying on the ground to be called for it. The rule is to stop players from bumping the kicker while he is vulnerable. By strict interpretation of that rule there is literally nothing to stop the kicker from intentionally moving out of his way to get his leg bumped. As always with the kicker-protecting rules, too strict of an interpretation will cause teams to give up trying to block kicks. Really, any good block attempt will cause contact that could be ruled as a penalty.
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Exterminate all rational thought, that is the conclusion I have come to
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 01:29 PM

a ll the holding calls and the dpi calls were correct....kicker looked like he just fell over. Motion flag cost us 6

Mostly our fault... Cro and Wilson panicked due to being isolated ...if you're gonna blitz 7 you must stop the throw....Rex took the gambles...he failed...outcoached beacuse the Ravens handled the blitz and we didn't adjust.

Our team is schizophrenic...play like wild men on D - AT TIMES TOO RISKY LAST NIGHT. ...play like girls on O failing to even pass 15 yards down the middle
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 04:32 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 14 September 2010 - 02:26 PM, said:

It's not the intention of the rule to penalize a player laying on the ground to be called for it. The rule is to stop players from bumping the kicker while he is vulnerable. By strict interpretation of that rule there is literally nothing to stop the kicker from intentionally moving out of his way to get his leg bumped. As always with the kicker-protecting rules, too strict of an interpretation will cause teams to give up trying to block kicks. Really, any good block attempt will cause contact that could be ruled as a penalty.


Agreed completely...not only that...but if you do actually block the kick you can bend the kicker's leg in half, not a problem.

That's another rule that needs fixing.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 04:33 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 14 September 2010 - 02:26 PM, said:

It's not the intention of the rule to penalize a player laying on the ground to be called for it. The rule is to stop players from bumping the kicker while he is vulnerable. By strict interpretation of that rule there is literally nothing to stop the kicker from intentionally moving out of his way to get his leg bumped. As always with the kicker-protecting rules, too strict of an interpretation will cause teams to give up trying to block kicks. Really, any good block attempt will cause contact that could be ruled as a penalty.


Part of the running into the kicker rule is not occupying the area on the ground where the kicker is trying to land (if you don't block the kick). Edwards failed to do so. He took a risk and it backfired, can't put it on the refs.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 04:54 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 14 September 2010 - 05:33 PM, said:

Part of the running into the kicker rule is not occupying the area on the ground where the kicker is trying to land (if you don't block the kick). Edwards failed to do so. He took a risk and it backfired, can't put it on the refs.


That call was bullshit and you know it. If the teams were reversed, you'd be singing a different tune. How is a player who is air born suppose to pick a spot he lands at? Wouldn't that be going against gravity? Rules are designed for two reasons: to ensure fair play and to prevent injuries. If anyone, the K has a choice to either step on the player or not. That should've been an a flag on him for unnecessary roughness and the Ravens should have lost 15 yards.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:14 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 September 2010 - 05:54 PM, said:

That call was bullshit and you know it. If the teams were reversed, you'd be singing a different tune. How is a player who is air born suppose to pick a spot he lands at? Wouldn't that be going against gravity? Rules are designed for two reasons: to ensure fair play and to prevent injuries. If anyone, the K has a choice to either step on the player or not. That should've been an a flag on him for unnecessary roughness and the Ravens should have lost 15 yards.


Really? There are dozens of rules in many pro sports that penalize you for not being in control of your body, even while airborne.

This rule fit in one of your purposes. kickers and Punters are given a space to set their leg back down to avoid injury. If you don't block the kick, you can't be in that space.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:27 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 14 September 2010 - 06:14 PM, said:

Really? There are dozens of rules in many pro sports that penalize you for not being in control of your body, even while airborne.

This rule fit in one of your purposes. kickers and Punters are given a space to set their leg back down to avoid injury. If you don't block the kick, you can't be in that space.


What rules are you talking about? What rule in what sport demands that an airborn player defy the laws of physics?
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:34 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 September 2010 - 06:27 PM, said:

What rules are you talking about? What rule in what sport demands that an airborn player defy the laws of physics?


*airborne

If a DB leaps in the air and lands on a WR before that WR touches the ball - Pass Interference.
If a a basketball player drives and leaps towards the hoop on a drive for a dunk/lay up and he collides with a defender who had established position - Charging.

Shall I continue?

You choose to leave the ground. Once your up there you have to take the consequences.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:44 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 14 September 2010 - 06:34 PM, said:

*airborne

If a DB leaps in the air and lands on a WR before that WR touches the ball - Pass Interference.
If a a basketball player drives and leaps towards the hoop on a drive for a dunk/lay up and he collides with a defender who had established position - Charging.

Shall I continue?

You choose to leave the ground. Once your up there you have to take the consequences.


Both of those situations are fouls based on the fact that the leaper is initiating contact with a player. Edwards landed on the ground and was stepped on. Quit trying to split hairs.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:08 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 14 September 2010 - 06:34 PM, said:

*airborne

If a DB leaps in the air and lands on a WR before that WR touches the ball - Pass Interference.
If a a basketball player drives and leaps towards the hoop on a drive for a dunk/lay up and he collides with a defender who had established position - Charging.

Shall I continue?

You choose to leave the ground. Once your up there you have to take the consequences.



It's only charging if your name is not LeBron James.

Oh well when Brandon "Ike Turner" Marshall does the same thing Edwards did you'll be singing a different tune.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:14 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 September 2010 - 09:44 PM, said:

Both of those situations are fouls based on the fact that the leaper is initiating contact with a player. Edwards landed on the ground and was stepped on. Quit trying to split hairs.


By ending up in the area where the kicker is supposed to be able to land, he initiated contact. All the situation involve being out of control. No hairs need to be split.

It would be the right call no matter what team it was against. I wouldn't be happy if it happened to the Dolphins, but it would still be the right call.
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