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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 08:48 AM

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Guys I really believe Mark isn't going to fail. It's ok to put Schotty and Mark through the ringer after a bad/horrible game but lets not totally discredit them. Listen to the demeanor in Marks voice. He's growing callused, which is good. The kid knows what he needs to do. I can feel the determination in his voice. One thing is he'll work hard and give it his all, we all know that. Mark understands the importance of ball security. They'll get it.



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Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:46 AM

But he always says the right things during interviews, until i see him take over in a game none of what he says will matter

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 10:44 AM

Last year everyone told him to top forcing things and check down. All he did last night was check down now that he has weapons there. He can't do one or the other, he has to do both, and he can't be afraid to take chances. Someone remove his binky please.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 11:43 AM

its time for him to step up and become a true leader. He can say he is but until he plays like one he is not. Time for him to make the opposing defense cover the whole field not just the deep and dump off. I know we played a greatt defense but that was like watching joes vs pros on offense last night. He also seems to scared to make a mistake. also seems like he is scared to get hit because he tries to throw the ball right away without letting the play develop. Maybe I am wrong oe over reacting but thats what I saw.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 11:51 AM

he sound good in the huddle.. but for some reason.. he looked nervouse last night, like second guessed? his read too much it seem
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:52 PM

So was there at any point where the veteran QB brunell helped Mark last night during the game.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:55 PM

Maybe Im being to hard on Sanchez since its only week 1. Either way as I stated I would rather have the Jets lose with Sanchez trying to make plays than not try at all as he did last night.

Favre and Testeverde made careers throwing plenty of ints and they still kept chucking the ball.Sometimes you come out on top and sometimes you dont. But when all you do is throw checkdowns their is no excuse.

Either way if Sanchez doesnt change his way of thinking in the offense within the next few games I will be hoping for Clemens to come in. Id rather see a qb come in and take chances to win even if he screws up than to not even try to win. f*** that. I know damn well from the past that Clemens will throw the ball downfield if he gets in.At this point I could deal with a couple ints since I trust our defense. f*** this dink and dunk crap. I had enough of that from Chad to last me a life time.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 08:31 AM

Mark needs to realize that INT's are going to come. You will throw INT's but we are going to go no wheres if we can't sling it.

Mark is a gunslinger by nature. He'll get it.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 06:43 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 15 September 2010 - 09:31 AM, said:

Mark needs to realize that INT's are going to come. You will throw INT's but we are going to go no wheres if we can't sling it.

Mark is a gunslinger by nature. He'll get it.


hes a gunslinger by nature?
the kid from socal?
the taco child from the beaches of cali?

a gun slinger?
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 06:55 PM

I'm changing Mark's name to Chico Checkdown until his nuts drop.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 09:35 PM

Maybe it's me and maybe it's to early to really pass judgment but he is really worrying me. There is a legitimate case that can be made that we have the worst starting QB in the NFL. I mean the coaching staff may really be messing sanchez up. They have bashed it into his head so much to not throw an int that he is afraid to trust his instincts and throw the ball into tight fits. A good QB can put the ball where only his WR can catch the ball, we don't even see sanchez attempt those throws. The only time we see a 15 yard + pass is when a guy is wide open in the middle of the field. It's only year two and he did just face a top 5 defense last week so maybe it was just the game plan, but man, I'm a little worried about the guy...not to mention the guy can't complete a pass on the left side of the field. Game planning against sanchez must be easy for opposing DC's. Right now, the way I see it, If we run into a defense that can shut down our run, we are screwed...despite the abundance of throwing options because on monday night mark refused to let anything develop. If a guy wasn't open right off the bat he checked it down to a guy slightly open that had little chance to do anything after the catch even if there was no one close to him. Maybe it was just the ravens D but he's gotta let his guys have a chance to make some plays

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 09:48 PM

Just have to remember that he is still really young
So is gholston

these guys are just kids
Don't let sanchezs pressers fool you he majored in communications and it shows
he has a lot of developing to do as a pro football player
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 10:29 PM

View Postextmenace, on 15 September 2010 - 10:35 PM, said:

Maybe it's me and maybe it's to early to really pass judgment but he is really worrying me. There is a legitimate case that can be made that we have the worst starting QB in the NFL. I mean the coaching staff may really be messing sanchez up. They have bashed it into his head so much to not throw an int that he is afraid to trust his instincts and throw the ball into tight fits. A good QB can put the ball where only his WR can catch the ball, we don't even see sanchez attempt those throws. The only time we see a 15 yard + pass is when a guy is wide open in the middle of the field. It's only year two and he did just face a top 5 defense last week so maybe it was just the game plan, but man, I'm a little worried about the guy...not to mention the guy can't complete a pass on the left side of the field. Game planning against sanchez must be easy for opposing DC's. Right now, the way I see it, If we run into a defense that can shut down our run, we are screwed...despite the abundance of throwing options because on monday night mark refused to let anything develop. If a guy wasn't open right off the bat he checked it down to a guy slightly open that had little chance to do anything after the catch even if there was no one close to him. Maybe it was just the ravens D but he's gotta let his guys have a chance to make some plays


The pass to Keller that should've been a TD but was overturned due to holding was a pretty a pass as you will see. He threw it right at Dustin's fingertips just past where the CB can get it and in front of the safety. Mark can ball. The coaching staff needs to find that balance that we had late last year where he was on a leash, but regularly threw downfield. Keep in mind that both Edwards and Cotch dropped very catchable balls. Maybe it was the rain, I don't know but I don't think Mark is too psyched out to throw into coverage, I think the play calling is horrible.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 10:54 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 15 September 2010 - 11:29 PM, said:

The pass to Keller that should've been a TD but was overturned due to holding was a pretty a pass as you will see. He threw it right at Dustin's fingertips just past where the CB can get it and in front of the safety. Mark can ball. The coaching staff needs to find that balance that we had late last year where he was on a leash, but regularly threw downfield. Keep in mind that both Edwards and Cotch dropped very catchable balls. Maybe it was the rain, I don't know but I don't think Mark is too psyched out to throw into coverage, I think the play calling is horrible.


Correction, it was an "illegal motion" because apparently Braylon wasn't set.
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 11:05 PM

I'm normally pretty optimistic but I don't know, I just don't know. I hope he proves me wrong, I really do.

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