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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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The Perception Of The Ravens After Last Night

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 01:44 PM

Anyone else find it funny that the logic after last night coming out of the media is that:

a)The Jets were exposed and the offense is bad
b)The Ravens dominated the game
c)The Ravens are a great team by beating a team that everyone is slamming

The Ravens are getting blown up everywhere, while the Jets are getting killed (and mostly deservedly so). What I can't figure out is how the Ravens, who barely scored and needed a team committing over a dozen penalties for over a hundred yards to win, are that much a better team. I mean, we are a great defense, but they controlled the ball almost the entire game and still only had an averagely productive game.

I'm sick of the Ravens. They're hyped every season as being one step away and they always finish like that, just shy of the playoffs or falling short of the Super Bowl. They're like a less hyped version of the Chargers.

Also, for the record, the story that sparked me on this is Don Banks' story for SI. http://sportsillustr...ings/index.html

He also says in there that losing Jenkins is a huge loss for us. I guess he didn't notice that we played as well without him as we did in that game and went to the AFC championship without him last season.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 02:05 PM

I thought the Jets looked way better on defense, they were out there for most of the game and were dominating the Ravens, the penalties hurt and bailed the Ravens out. Hopefully this was just one of those games, I know the refs were known for calling a lot of penalties last year. Rex said it perfectly, there are aggressive penalties and there are stupid penalties, you got to eliminate the stupid ones.


I thought the Braylon Edwards "running into the kicker" penalty was absolute BULLSHIT. Edwards almost had the block, he was diving for it, he didn't run into the kicker, the kicker as soon as his kicking leg was coming down and touched Edwards dropped down, it was so phony and complete bullshit. That rule is so dumb, I can see actually running into the kicker which is dangerous, but what Edwards did really? That is just not allowing them to play football and just dictating the game by penalties.. That penalty was huge since we lost 10-9, would of been a 9-6 win. Kickers are so f***ing annoying, biggest pansies on the field.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 04:35 PM

you guys covered just about everything.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 04:52 PM

The Ravens are what I thought they were. They had the 3rd best defense last year and it showed. Jets nuumber one defense was better.
Penalties killed us but Ravens have a great qb under center Jets didnt.So their offense is better
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:22 PM

The Ravens also have 3 solid vet WRs that knew what to do against single coverage. There's not many other WR corps in the league like that.

As a Dolphins fan, of course its great to get a laugh at the Jets. But more than anything its just because of all the talking they did. If they had kept quiet and played the same way, they wouldn't be getting killed as bad as they are now.

Of course its any given Sunday, but I don't like the chances of the Dolphins playing the Ravens so tight.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:23 PM

What did the Ravens do well last night? Our offensive gameplan was non existant, but LT still managed something like 5 YPC. We targeted our WR a whopping 3 times the entire night! The one turnover the Ravens got, was when Greene ran into Slaughson and fumbled. On the other side of the ball, the Ravens needed the refs to move the ball. If it wasn't for the penalties, we'd have given up 6 points... at most.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:26 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 September 2010 - 06:23 PM, said:

What did the Ravens do well last night?

They did a decent job of picking up the blitz, making a decent throw and giving the Jets DBs the choice of PI or completed passes.


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Ravens needed the refs to move the ball. If it wasn't for the penalties, we'd have given up 6 points... at most.


No, the Ravens needed your guys in single coverage because of the blitzes to commit PI to move the ball, or make nice throws and catches against that single coverage to move the ball.
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Posted 14 September 2010 - 05:31 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 14 September 2010 - 06:26 PM, said:

They did a decent job of picking up the blitz, making a decent throw and giving the Jets DBs the choice of PI or completed passes.

No, the Ravens needed your guys in single coverage because of the blitzes to commit PI to move the ball, or make nice throws and catches against that single coverage to move the ball.


I agree. The one area where they didn't completely suck was not giving up a lot of sacks. Point taken, considering we didn't have our best pass rusher and our defense was on the field for 3/4 of the game, I doubt that the Ravens should take turns giving each other Gatorade sponge baths. As far as those PI calls, a couple were legit but there were a few that could've gone either way. That PI call on Wilson to move the ball to the 1 was complete BS. Even Gruden thought so.
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