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ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) ^^^ agreed
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 04:31 PM

Look regardless of what Sanchez does in this game it is easy to see for anyone that is actually capable of analyzing the game. Sanchez is not reading the whole field. This is the biggest reason why the passing offense is struggling and struggled last year.This is also why he threw so many picks

Instead of debating with me or arguing this I challenge anyone to watch Sanchez closely and watch his head movement.He usually just locks on to one receiver. That is the only knock I have on him because good defenses can key on this.

If you watch Brady,P Manning, Brees, Mcnabb, etc. and watch their head movement you will see that they scan the whole field and you never know where the ball is going to go. With Sanchez you almost can always tell where he is going to throw the ball.


Anyone can see the man has alot of talent and has the potential to be great but he really needs to learn to scan the field more. It may be poor coaching I dont know but he needs more head movement to confuse defenses so they cant key on him.Maybe Schotty is a big part of the problem and maybe he isnt but regardless Sanchez is the one on the field

Again instead of debating this watch his head when he throws. It is usally fixed in one place.This thread isnt about whether Sanchez makes a completion or not. It is about an absolute necessary thing as a successful NFL qb. Head movement.


Edit... he played very well but I still stand by my post. I watch him closely every game and he is looking at one receiver most of the time and still needs to fix this.To his credit he has a serious rocket arm and is able to make completions that he wouldnt otherwise.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:39 PM

yeah.....hhhhmmm....

The hardest thing to learn as a QB and the longest skill to develop is probably the ability to scan the entire field quickly and get through all your progressions. He had a career day today...in a huge game...where the Jets absolutely needed to have some offensive firepower.

He showed the ability to make throws in front of the WR, and when needed behind the WR. He was creative and calm on that scramble flip to LT. He showed the ability to trust his WRs to make a play on several throws, especially to Braylon Edwards. He had a great game...and you're grasping at straws to try and critique him right now.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:44 PM

Find me a 2nd year QB that scans the field like a Manning, Brees, Brady.. Takes YEARS to master the QB position.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:47 PM

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:15 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 19 September 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...

Not quite but almost. Lets see if he can do it 2 weeks in a row.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:16 PM

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:24 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 September 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.

Agreed. He showed us why we gave up so much to have him.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:31 PM

What about that TD to Keller? He was looking to throw to his right, saw Richardson get knocked down and then turned around and saw Keller 1 on 1 and threw it up for him to make the play.

Hopefully he can have a good game vs the Dolphins next week.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:33 PM

sanchez did what all good Qbs do. throw the ball up in one on one and let your WR/TE make a play on it. you can't be so worried about a pick that you never take a chance
Get it done MT
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:45 AM

He's 23

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These names should not be uttered when talking about Sanchez
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:47 AM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 19 September 2010 - 08:47 PM, said:

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...


WHich Manning? Eli never looked as good as Sanchize looked today.
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 03:26 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 September 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.

Yes I agree he was very impressive today.Im never said he wasnt.And I also said you can see his potential. I wrote this post during the game and Im not taking anything away from the his game today .He deserves all the credit and I as well as alot of other fans were bitching about his play before he lit the field up today. He made us eat crow and Im happy he did.

I still think it is a huge issue that needs to be corrected.

Other than Slauson our line is solid so he should be able to take a split second during most games and most plays to glance at his other options. The tougher the defense the Jets face the less chance that the number one option will be open and we have to many weapons on this team for him not to look at the other options.

Anyway its a question I would wish I could ask the Jets staff. Sanchez had a great game today but in game one he looked to the checkdowns and no where else and in game two he locked on one receiver down field most of the time and no where else.
Whether the Jets win or lose and whether he has a bad game or a good game it is still a problem and Id like to see it addressed by the coaching staff. If he didnt have time in the pocket Id say get rid of the ball fast but that isnt the case.

Im not going to overlook this issue because he had a masterful game. I just am not sure he can beat an elite defense without being in the habit of scanning the field of play.

And by the way I never said he never scans the field. He did it like twice during the game so he has shown he can do it. I just dont think he does it enough so it is either a really bad habit on his part or bad coaching.

Sanchez is doing a really good job reading the defenses at the line before the play. He has really impressed me with that. Once he starts reading the field during the play he will be completely solid.

There is no reason they cant fix this in practice and I hope the coaches are noticing it. It just baffles me why this wasnt addressed in the off season.I just dont like the thought of it that a defense can key on his eyes. At least against the Pats he showed he could get the ball to the receiver before the defender could make the adjustment even if they did key on him.

Anyway maybe I analyze the game and players to much but I love the science of the game(the game within the game) not just the game of football.
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