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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 04:31 PM

Look regardless of what Sanchez does in this game it is easy to see for anyone that is actually capable of analyzing the game. Sanchez is not reading the whole field. This is the biggest reason why the passing offense is struggling and struggled last year.This is also why he threw so many picks

Instead of debating with me or arguing this I challenge anyone to watch Sanchez closely and watch his head movement.He usually just locks on to one receiver. That is the only knock I have on him because good defenses can key on this.

If you watch Brady,P Manning, Brees, Mcnabb, etc. and watch their head movement you will see that they scan the whole field and you never know where the ball is going to go. With Sanchez you almost can always tell where he is going to throw the ball.


Anyone can see the man has alot of talent and has the potential to be great but he really needs to learn to scan the field more. It may be poor coaching I dont know but he needs more head movement to confuse defenses so they cant key on him.Maybe Schotty is a big part of the problem and maybe he isnt but regardless Sanchez is the one on the field

Again instead of debating this watch his head when he throws. It is usally fixed in one place.This thread isnt about whether Sanchez makes a completion or not. It is about an absolute necessary thing as a successful NFL qb. Head movement.


Edit... he played very well but I still stand by my post. I watch him closely every game and he is looking at one receiver most of the time and still needs to fix this.To his credit he has a serious rocket arm and is able to make completions that he wouldnt otherwise.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:39 PM

yeah.....hhhhmmm....

The hardest thing to learn as a QB and the longest skill to develop is probably the ability to scan the entire field quickly and get through all your progressions. He had a career day today...in a huge game...where the Jets absolutely needed to have some offensive firepower.

He showed the ability to make throws in front of the WR, and when needed behind the WR. He was creative and calm on that scramble flip to LT. He showed the ability to trust his WRs to make a play on several throws, especially to Braylon Edwards. He had a great game...and you're grasping at straws to try and critique him right now.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:44 PM

Find me a 2nd year QB that scans the field like a Manning, Brees, Brady.. Takes YEARS to master the QB position.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:47 PM

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:15 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 19 September 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...

Not quite but almost. Lets see if he can do it 2 weeks in a row.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:16 PM

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:24 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 September 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.

Agreed. He showed us why we gave up so much to have him.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:31 PM

What about that TD to Keller? He was looking to throw to his right, saw Richardson get knocked down and then turned around and saw Keller 1 on 1 and threw it up for him to make the play.

Hopefully he can have a good game vs the Dolphins next week.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:33 PM

sanchez did what all good Qbs do. throw the ball up in one on one and let your WR/TE make a play on it. you can't be so worried about a pick that you never take a chance
Get it done MT
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:45 AM

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:47 AM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 19 September 2010 - 08:47 PM, said:

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...


WHich Manning? Eli never looked as good as Sanchize looked today.
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 03:26 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 September 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.

Yes I agree he was very impressive today.Im never said he wasnt.And I also said you can see his potential. I wrote this post during the game and Im not taking anything away from the his game today .He deserves all the credit and I as well as alot of other fans were bitching about his play before he lit the field up today. He made us eat crow and Im happy he did.

I still think it is a huge issue that needs to be corrected.

Other than Slauson our line is solid so he should be able to take a split second during most games and most plays to glance at his other options. The tougher the defense the Jets face the less chance that the number one option will be open and we have to many weapons on this team for him not to look at the other options.

Anyway its a question I would wish I could ask the Jets staff. Sanchez had a great game today but in game one he looked to the checkdowns and no where else and in game two he locked on one receiver down field most of the time and no where else.
Whether the Jets win or lose and whether he has a bad game or a good game it is still a problem and Id like to see it addressed by the coaching staff. If he didnt have time in the pocket Id say get rid of the ball fast but that isnt the case.

Im not going to overlook this issue because he had a masterful game. I just am not sure he can beat an elite defense without being in the habit of scanning the field of play.

And by the way I never said he never scans the field. He did it like twice during the game so he has shown he can do it. I just dont think he does it enough so it is either a really bad habit on his part or bad coaching.

Sanchez is doing a really good job reading the defenses at the line before the play. He has really impressed me with that. Once he starts reading the field during the play he will be completely solid.

There is no reason they cant fix this in practice and I hope the coaches are noticing it. It just baffles me why this wasnt addressed in the off season.I just dont like the thought of it that a defense can key on his eyes. At least against the Pats he showed he could get the ball to the receiver before the defender could make the adjustment even if they did key on him.

Anyway maybe I analyze the game and players to much but I love the science of the game(the game within the game) not just the game of football.
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