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ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 04:31 PM

Look regardless of what Sanchez does in this game it is easy to see for anyone that is actually capable of analyzing the game. Sanchez is not reading the whole field. This is the biggest reason why the passing offense is struggling and struggled last year.This is also why he threw so many picks

Instead of debating with me or arguing this I challenge anyone to watch Sanchez closely and watch his head movement.He usually just locks on to one receiver. That is the only knock I have on him because good defenses can key on this.

If you watch Brady,P Manning, Brees, Mcnabb, etc. and watch their head movement you will see that they scan the whole field and you never know where the ball is going to go. With Sanchez you almost can always tell where he is going to throw the ball.


Anyone can see the man has alot of talent and has the potential to be great but he really needs to learn to scan the field more. It may be poor coaching I dont know but he needs more head movement to confuse defenses so they cant key on him.Maybe Schotty is a big part of the problem and maybe he isnt but regardless Sanchez is the one on the field

Again instead of debating this watch his head when he throws. It is usally fixed in one place.This thread isnt about whether Sanchez makes a completion or not. It is about an absolute necessary thing as a successful NFL qb. Head movement.


Edit... he played very well but I still stand by my post. I watch him closely every game and he is looking at one receiver most of the time and still needs to fix this.To his credit he has a serious rocket arm and is able to make completions that he wouldnt otherwise.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:39 PM

yeah.....hhhhmmm....

The hardest thing to learn as a QB and the longest skill to develop is probably the ability to scan the entire field quickly and get through all your progressions. He had a career day today...in a huge game...where the Jets absolutely needed to have some offensive firepower.

He showed the ability to make throws in front of the WR, and when needed behind the WR. He was creative and calm on that scramble flip to LT. He showed the ability to trust his WRs to make a play on several throws, especially to Braylon Edwards. He had a great game...and you're grasping at straws to try and critique him right now.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:44 PM

Find me a 2nd year QB that scans the field like a Manning, Brees, Brady.. Takes YEARS to master the QB position.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:47 PM

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:15 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 19 September 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...

Not quite but almost. Lets see if he can do it 2 weeks in a row.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:16 PM

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:24 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 September 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.

Agreed. He showed us why we gave up so much to have him.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:31 PM

What about that TD to Keller? He was looking to throw to his right, saw Richardson get knocked down and then turned around and saw Keller 1 on 1 and threw it up for him to make the play.

Hopefully he can have a good game vs the Dolphins next week.
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:33 PM

sanchez did what all good Qbs do. throw the ball up in one on one and let your WR/TE make a play on it. you can't be so worried about a pick that you never take a chance
Get it done MT
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:45 AM

He's 23

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These names should not be uttered when talking about Sanchez
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:47 AM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 19 September 2010 - 08:47 PM, said:

I heard he looked like Manning out there today...


WHich Manning? Eli never looked as good as Sanchize looked today.
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 03:26 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 19 September 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

The TD to Braylon in the back of the endzone, he recognized the double coverage on the slot and instantly threw the ball up for grabs to BE.

He might not scan the field, go to his 2nd and 3rd options just yet but the ability to get under center and recognize defenses is a huge piece to the puzzle.

He was very impressive today.

Yes I agree he was very impressive today.Im never said he wasnt.And I also said you can see his potential. I wrote this post during the game and Im not taking anything away from the his game today .He deserves all the credit and I as well as alot of other fans were bitching about his play before he lit the field up today. He made us eat crow and Im happy he did.

I still think it is a huge issue that needs to be corrected.

Other than Slauson our line is solid so he should be able to take a split second during most games and most plays to glance at his other options. The tougher the defense the Jets face the less chance that the number one option will be open and we have to many weapons on this team for him not to look at the other options.

Anyway its a question I would wish I could ask the Jets staff. Sanchez had a great game today but in game one he looked to the checkdowns and no where else and in game two he locked on one receiver down field most of the time and no where else.
Whether the Jets win or lose and whether he has a bad game or a good game it is still a problem and Id like to see it addressed by the coaching staff. If he didnt have time in the pocket Id say get rid of the ball fast but that isnt the case.

Im not going to overlook this issue because he had a masterful game. I just am not sure he can beat an elite defense without being in the habit of scanning the field of play.

And by the way I never said he never scans the field. He did it like twice during the game so he has shown he can do it. I just dont think he does it enough so it is either a really bad habit on his part or bad coaching.

Sanchez is doing a really good job reading the defenses at the line before the play. He has really impressed me with that. Once he starts reading the field during the play he will be completely solid.

There is no reason they cant fix this in practice and I hope the coaches are noticing it. It just baffles me why this wasnt addressed in the off season.I just dont like the thought of it that a defense can key on his eyes. At least against the Pats he showed he could get the ball to the receiver before the defender could make the adjustment even if they did key on him.

Anyway maybe I analyze the game and players to much but I love the science of the game(the game within the game) not just the game of football.
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