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10 Yard Holding Calls To Much?

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 08:45 PM

I personally think so. 1st and 10 holding gets pushed back to 1st and 20? I think 10 yards for holding is a bit much. It's a common penalty and I think 10 yards just destroys drives. i think 5 yards would suffice . Thoughts?
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Posted 18 October 2010 - 10:17 PM

It would be, but it does make up for all the penalties that are forced on the defense. I mean if the defense even sneezes the wrong way ona receiver it's a first down.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 11:16 PM

10 yards is what it should be and always will be....5 yards would be the same as a false start...keep it 10, or else holding would really become a part of the game...whereas you really could take a chance grabbing a defender and tossing him down hoping for the big game changing run, or buying an extra second or two for the QB...with little consequences if he is caught....
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 11:27 PM

View PostLeon#29, on 20 October 2010 - 12:16 AM, said:

10 yards is what it should be and always will be....5 yards would be the same as a false start...keep it 10, or else holding would really become a part of the game...whereas you really could take a chance grabbing a defender and tossing him down hoping for the big game changing run, or buying an extra second or two for the QB...with little consequences if he is caught....

I agree totally. Just to add some of these holding calls saves the qb from a sack which usually results in more than ten yards.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:31 AM

I also think it has to be 10 to keep the risk/reward (of holding) a little in check. I mean, how many former player analysts say "Holding happens every play." To balance that out ya gotta have the obvious ones count against ya quite a bit.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 07:31 AM

Yea I here ya but you think guys would try to manipulate the penalty with it only being 5 yards? I don't know. Lets be honest, when a run loses a yard or two even that's a problem. Just given the fact that there is a hold on nearly every play and it being such a common penalty and the face that it takes it back 10 yards I think is a bit much for a common penalty.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 10:12 AM

i have to agree 10 is good. i mean a defensive holding is an automatic 1st down even if its 3rd and 30 and thats BS
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 01:15 PM

well if they were to go back to old school where O linemen can't extend their arms to block can't grab uniforms that would be give the same results.
block in the back, late hits . calling time outs seconds before a FG thats all needs to go.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:13 PM

I think offensive holding is fine, for the reason stated that a sack will usually give up more than five yards so it turns into a "I'm way better off holding than letting my QB go down" situation.

Having said that, I think Goodell will flip it over to a five yard penalty sooner or later to promote offenses.

Also, ten yards with the modern passing game isn't that bad. It more kills run based teams than pass based ones.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:58 PM

I think the NFL was dam fine the way it was. rule changes piss me off
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 04:17 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 20 October 2010 - 03:58 PM, said:

I think the NFL was dam fine the way it was. rule changes piss me off


What would upset me most is an 18 game schedule. There's already games that end up meaningless to some teams at the end. It's also gonna be a lot harder to compare stats, etc.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 04:23 PM

an 18 game schedule would suck
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:02 AM

In Goodell's Flag Football league eighteen games won't involve any more injuries than now.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:26 AM

What do you guys think about P.I's being at the spot of the foul? 40,50,60 yard penalties? IMO, they should be a 15 yard penalty and a 1st down.


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Posted 21 October 2010 - 08:07 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 21 October 2010 - 01:26 PM, said:

What do you guys think about P.I's being at the spot of the foul? 40,50,60 yard penalties? IMO, they should be a 15 yard penalty and a 1st down.


If they take away a sure reception - like the flag on Santonio on Sunday - then I think having them as spot fouls is a good idea, otherwise you would see defenders interfering more on deep passes where they are trailing a receiver or in a bad position to give up the lesser yardage.
In regards to holding, I too think a ten yard penalty is warranted. Compared with false starts and offsides, which a player wouldn't commit on purpose, holding generally occurs on purpose so it should be penalised more.
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