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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 10:51 AM

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 12:28 PM

espn and other sites havent released theyre rankings yet?
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 02:56 PM

AOL - 1
Fox Sports - 2
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ESPN - not posted yet

NFL.com expert ratings
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:23 PM

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ESPN - not posted yet


ESPN's got us at #2 behind the Steelers
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:26 PM

how can the steelers be #1? we have a better record and i think pitt played some crap teams so far. who was they're only loss to?
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:35 PM

i can't hate on steelers being number 1. they went 3-1 with a 2nd/3rd string QB and there defense looks amazing.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:14 PM

View Post518-JeTS-FaN, on 19 October 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

how can the steelers be #1? we have a better record and i think pitt played some crap teams so far. who was they're only loss to?


Records dont always tell the story. While I agree that we should be #1, I say it more because of our strength of schedule and more than record.

You definitely have to agree with 115 also with the way they've played with backup QB's and their DEfense has been lights out. I'm waiting to see how they perform against a quality team though.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 11:43 PM

Well Im on the opposite end I dont think the Jets are number one as of right now the way they were exposed the last 5 plus quarters. They could easliy be 4-2 right now and to many games have been to close for comfort(three of the six).

I honestly have no idea where Id rate them after week six and the end of week five.

5-1 is one thing but I dont like the fact of the defense being so exposed.

Put it this way didnt Denver go like 6-0 last year to start and Miami went 7-0 one season. Both teams ended up imploding and didnt make the playoffs.


Basically in order for them to be a legitmate number one ranking the defense needs to play more solid and quit giving up so many passing yards and points like it has lately.


I dont fall into that best record early in the season crap.I watch for solid play all around.Winning games by the skin of your teeth doesnt rank a team number one in my book. Things can change fast in the NFL.


It is a long season and the Jets have to play some solid teams yet. I will wait for some solid play and wins before I crown them number one
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 11:52 PM

I would put the Steelers in #1 then Jets Ravens Pats. I know the Steelers are 3-1 but that is because they had a bye. After this week we couls have a log jam at 4-1. We have a spotty QB who should work through it but right now we are struggling again on Offense And our D has been good but also will improve. I do think we will get better as we get healthy in the next 2 weeks and then we may be able to show we are the best.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 09:31 AM

View PostROBJETS, on 19 October 2010 - 09:43 PM, said:

Well Im on the opposite end I dont think the Jets are number one as of right now the way they were exposed the last 5 plus quarters. They could easliy be 4-2 right now and to many games have been to close for comfort(three of the six).

I honestly have no idea where Id rate them after week six and the end of week five.

5-1 is one thing but I dont like the fact of the defense being so exposed.

Put it this way didnt Denver go like 6-0 last year to start and Miami went 7-0 one season. Both teams ended up imploding and didnt make the playoffs.


Basically in order for them to be a legitmate number one ranking the defense needs to play more solid and quit giving up so many passing yards and points like it has lately.


I dont fall into that best record early in the season crap.I watch for solid play all around.Winning games by the skin of your teeth doesn't rank a team number one in my book. Things can change fast in the NFL.


It is a long season and the Jets have to play some solid teams yet. I will wait for some solid play and wins before I crown them number one


That happens due to the schedule gods. the giants went 5-0 last year playing 5 horrible teams and were considered a top 3-4 team by most rankings, but as there schedule evened out they went 8-8 on the season
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 01:08 PM

RobJet don't be fooled by the passing defnse those stats are due to one Revis 's injury and two because teams can't run on us unless we want them to like denver we baited them to run more and pass less and we got the W. but I agree ramkings mean less to me that wins.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 01:11 PM

View Post518-JeTS-FaN, on 19 October 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

how can the steelers be #1? we have a better record and i think pitt played some crap teams so far. who was they're only loss to?


Their only loss was also to Baltimore. Winning 3 out of 4 with Dennis Dixon/Charlie Batch has to be worth something once you get Roethlisberger back.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:22 PM

I'm shocked LaCanfora has us way up at #3. After we beat the Patrots in Week 2 he still had them ranked ahead of us.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:23 PM

Looks good. Mine would be:

Pitt
NYJ
Bal
NE
Ind
Phil
Ten
NYG (I hate having them that high, because they are a totally different team when they pass rush gets slowed, but right now it isn't)
Atl
NO
Mia
KC
Wash
GB
Hou
----->at this point I officially say these are crappy teams, and I think Houston is a "worst call all season" away from being in this group
TB
Chi (defense is barely holding this team together from being really, really bad)
Sea
Minn
StL
Den
SD
Ari
Cinn
Jax
Oak
Dal
Det
Cle
Car (I thought Carolina's defense was going to keep them alive and in competition this season, boy was I wrong)
Buff

Also, if an AFC team doesn't win the SB this year, it should get replayed 99 more times, because they'll win it every other time. The NFL is weak. GB was way underrated heading into last season and was overhyped for this one, and NO has totally come apart. People forgot Atl had a below average pass defense all last season and it is starting to come back this one.

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