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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Sanchez The Weak Link? 30th in throwing%

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 01:54 PM

Not good at all. Not going to cut it going down the stretch.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 02:11 PM

With him being only a second year pro & only a starting Q for 3 yrs including college, I think he's progressing pretty well. He's done a fairly good job of protecting the ball with only 2 INT's so far this season (although he should likely have about 6 or 8 if not for getting lucky and defenders dropping them).

He's still learning and IMO, he's ahead of the learning curve as he's looking off defenders better & going through his progressions, etc. We should be okay with him. Some of that completion percentage is from dropped passes that should have been caught, so I'm not going to get on him too much. He's #19 according to NFL.com for passing yards & has completed 98 of 177 for 55.4% and a 6.2 ypc. He's 15th in QB Rating so I'll take it.

He may be 30th in %, but the numbers that count are wins & losses & we're #1 in that category in the league.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:02 PM

he's a 2nd year pro and he throws more down field then most QBs
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:44 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 October 2010 - 04:02 PM, said:

he's a 2nd year pro and he throws more down field then most QBs



Ummmm he throws down field then most QB's?.. you are sure about that?
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:23 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 19 October 2010 - 08:11 PM, said:

With him being only a second year pro & only a starting Q for 3 yrs including college, I think he's progressing pretty well. He's done a fairly good job of protecting the ball with only 2 INT's so far this season (although he should likely have about 6 or 8 if not for getting lucky and defenders dropping them).

He's still learning and IMO, he's ahead of the learning curve as he's looking off defenders better & going through his progressions, etc. We should be okay with him. Some of that completion percentage is from dropped passes that should have been caught, so I'm not going to get on him too much. He's #19 according to NFL.com for passing yards & has completed 98 of 177 for 55.4% and a 6.2 ypc. He's 15th in QB Rating so I'll take it.

He may be 30th in %, but the numbers that count are wins & losses & we're #1 in that category in the league.


Agreed. As long as those incompletions aren't going to the defense then that's fine. Other than in the Denver game he's been reasonably smart with the ball and taken the incompletion when neccessary. He's also made a number of throws that he probably wouldn't have last year, for instance the key third down completion on the slant to Santonio against the Vikings, and some of the passes he's making you can tell he's improved from where he was in his rookie year.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:38 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 19 October 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:

Ummmm he throws down field then most QB's?.. you are sure about that?


Positive. not as much as romo or mcnabb or peyton do but defiantly more then at least half the QBs. He only throws about 20 passes a game. If 5 are deep thats a 25% deep throw on attempts so a QB like rivers who throws 50 times a game would need to heave it 12-13 times for the same ratio.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 10:12 PM

I really don't like the passing plays that Schotty uses. They are awkward and weird. I'd love to just see some quick slants utilized with our speedy receivers.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 10:52 PM

For a second year QB, he is really progressing!! You can see it in his progressions alone...as well as his pocket presence and leadership.

Last year, he had no pocket presence...locked on to his primary reciever, and the leadership as a rookie QB wasn't there.

On Hard knocks, if you remember...Marty Schottenhiemer was caught on tape saying that the main thing is that you hope the 2nd year QB doesn't digress but stays similiar to the way he was in the 1st year(something to that effect).

I believe that he is already beginning to come into his own.....with the exception of way too many balls being knocked down at the line, and at times tends to try to put way too much touch on the intermediate routes over the middle, however he does throw some real nice deep sideline patterns with alot of zip which happens to be a more difficult throw....

I am very satisfied with his play and progress, and truly believe in a couple of years, he will be an Elite QB in this league. We have a keeper in this guy...trust me! I've seen alot of QB's over my years of watching football, and Sanchez is going to be something special!!!
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 10:55 PM

I think 75% of NFL teams would take Sanchez as their starting quarterback.


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Posted 19 October 2010 - 11:19 PM

I agree with the assessment that he is still in progress.

He has actually made alot of throws that could have been intercepted that werent do to good velocity on the ball. So he has gotten away with alot of mistakes.

It is obvious he has grown though. Alot of us were bitching through the first quarter of week two after the poor play in preseason and the limited game plan in week one that made him look bad.

He has played pretty solid in every game other than part of week six so I dont know if Id go as far as calling him a weak link.

My only issue with Sanchez is that he is still missing wide open receivers because he isnt scanning the field enough.I have noticed on numerous plays he has had a wide open receiver and never even noticed it.


If anything is weak it is the pass yardage we are giving up this year after being number one against the pass last year.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 09:34 AM

View PostLeon#29, on 19 October 2010 - 08:52 PM, said:

For a second year QB, he is really progressing!! You can see it in his progressions alone...as well as his pocket presence and leadership.

Last year, he had no pocket presence...locked on to his primary reciever, and the leadership as a rookie QB wasn't there.

On Hard knocks, if you remember...Marty Schottenhiemer was caught on tape saying that the main thing is that you hope the 2nd year QB doesn't digress but stays similiar to the way he was in the 1st year(something to that effect).

I believe that he is already beginning to come into his own.....with the exception of way too many balls being knocked down at the line, and at times tends to try to put way too much touch on the intermediate routes over the middle, however he does throw some real nice deep sideline patterns with alot of zip which happens to be a more difficult throw....

I am very satisfied with his play and progress, and truly believe in a couple of years, he will be an Elite QB in this league. We have a keeper in this guy...trust me! I've seen alot of QB's over my years of watching football, and Sanchez is going to be something special!!!


to put it in perspective did anyone watch the lions/giants game? eli was 20-30 but he threw 5 passes to WR screens and about 15 of his completions were 3 yards or less from the line of scrimmage. alos of QBs have high % becuase they throw short passes that are easy to complete/ we run alot and when it does work sanchez is put in 3rd and long and its tough to complete passes on 3rd and 12
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 11:53 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 20 October 2010 - 09:34 AM, said:

to put it in perspective did anyone watch the lions/giants game? eli was 20-30 but he threw 5 passes to WR screens and about 15 of his completions were 3 yards or less from the line of scrimmage. alos of QBs have high % becuase they throw short passes that are easy to complete/ we run alot and when it does work sanchez is put in 3rd and long and its tough to complete passes on 3rd and 12



As with the majority of quarterbacks, it all depends on the system. Take the 2007 Patriots for example. Yes, Brady threw plenty of 20+ yard completion/TDs, but most of his throws were 5 yard screens to Welker.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 12:56 PM

View PostDeejay Silva, on 20 October 2010 - 09:53 AM, said:

As with the majority of quarterbacks, it all depends on the system. Take the 2007 Patriots for example. Yes, Brady threw plenty of 20+ yard completion/TDs, but most of his throws were 5 yard screens to Welker.


also alot of teams that don't run the ball well use WR screens and HB dump offs as a run game basically like the saints are doing w/o having reggie and PT. it leads to high comp% from the QB.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:30 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 20 October 2010 - 12:56 PM, said:

also alot of teams that don't run the ball well use WR screens and HB dump offs as a run game basically like the saints are doing w/o having reggie and PT. it leads to high comp% from the QB.



Exactly. It's a deceiving statistic. Look at Chad Pennington. He has one of the high completion percentages ever. But after 2002-2004, noone would ever consider him possessing that stat. We run the ball more than most teams in the league. When we do pass, it's obvious that Sanchez is looking for the big play/first down. It doesn't help that a lot of the passing situations he's put into are 3rd and 12, etc. As Jets fans, we watch Sanchez every week. We know that he's a lot better than his completion percentage says he is. It's a crock of shit.
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