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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 03:46 PM

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In this week’s Sports Illustrated, 239 active NFL players were asked who the most overrated player in the league is.

Is Mark Sanchez overrated? Well, his peers think so.

The Jets second-year quarterback was tied for the third most overrated player in the NFL in Sports Illustrated’s annual players’ poll. Sanchez and Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth each received five percent of the votes. In other words, 12 of 239 players polled selected Sanchez.

Bengals wide receiver Terrell Owners was voted the most overrated among players with 14 percent of the vote. His former quarterback Tony Romo received 7 percent of the vote. Former Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning was named the fifth most overrated despite passing for more than 4,000 yards last season.



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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:17 PM

It's only his second year in the league so how can he be overrated? I think Mark knows he has plenty he can improve on. Over his career so far his stats may not be so great, but to help put up 13 wins in your first 21 starts, plus leading his team to two playoff victories suggests he is on the right track.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:29 PM

What about him is overrated though? And 239 out of 1,696 players...whatever. He's a second year QB, nobody is claiming he is Peyton.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:34 PM

so 12 players in the entire NFL think he is overrated? probably came from giants players being jealous
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:00 PM

Definitely sounds like some people are drinking the haterade. Where is Sanchez overrated? No one has said that he's so great. There have been experts and analysts that have said that he has matured and that he is ahead of many second year QB's. So what? They're right. Many QB's hit a sophomore slump, but Sanchez hasn't done that YET. Maybe he had that a year ahead of time in his rookie year while finding success due to the defense.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:46 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 19 October 2010 - 06:00 PM, said:

Definitely sounds like some people are drinking the haterade. Where is Sanchez overrated? No one has said that he's so great. There have been experts and analysts that have said that he has matured and that he is ahead of many second year QB's. So what? They're right. Many QB's hit a sophomore slump, but Sanchez hasn't done that YET. Maybe he had that a year ahead of time in his rookie year while finding success due to the defense.


I believe a big part of it his the team that Sanchez is playing with. With almost every quarterback that gets drafted high they don't have a supporting cast to succeed. Not only does Sanchez have that, but he doesn't have to be the guy and win games, he just needs to not turn the ball over. At some point, probably this season, he is going to have to put up numbers. This is the NFL after all. But as of right now, he just needs to make his reads and not force anything for a big play.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:48 PM

I wonder how many votes carson palmer got
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 10:58 AM

View PostRhodes1991, on 19 October 2010 - 09:46 PM, said:

I believe a big part of it his the team that Sanchez is playing with. With almost every quarterback that gets drafted high they don't have a supporting cast to succeed. Not only does Sanchez have that, but he doesn't have to be the guy and win games, he just needs to not turn the ball over. At some point, probably this season, he is going to have to put up numbers. This is the NFL after all. But as of right now, he just needs to make his reads and not force anything for a big play.


I agree with everything you've said. But for people to say he's overrated is ridiculous. He's a 2nd yr QB that is doing exactly what he needs to in order to improve rather than fall backwards in his progresion as a QB in this league.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 11:22 AM

FYI you need to read the article. This vote was taken during the preseason so its based on last season only.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 11:45 AM

That honestly makes the article even more ridiculous if it's based on his rookie year.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 11:59 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 20 October 2010 - 11:45 AM, said:

That honestly makes the article even more ridiculous if it's based on his rookie year.



That's true, but Sanchez did receive a lot of attention his roookie season. It's hard not to believe that NFL veterans get frustrated when rookies get hyped up. If I wasn't a Jets fan and looked primarily at statistics, I would vote Sanchez overrated as well.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:08 PM

That was a big WTF? moment for me this morning. Eli and Romo? Okay. Sanchez?

But this is really just Jets-hate. Mark was being blown up by a lot of people saying it wasn't impressive that he hadn't thrown an Int before last game, but the same people killed him for his Int numbers last year while Stafford got his butt rubbed despite throwing as many Ints in five less games.
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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:17 PM

Ridiculous. Haha.
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