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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 09:52 AM


Anyone else get the feeling that Mark is on the verge of a meltdown?.. if you look at the Vikings game leading into the Broncos game he's played very poorly. One thing I notice about Mark is if his first read is there he's usually pretty good. However when he has to go from 2nd to 3rd in his progressions is when he just hangs on to the football and starts to panic (Bronco game it happened a lot). That's the reason Schotty uses bootlegs and P.A rollouts because often times those are easy completions (mind you the running game has to be in place).

In any event. I just have a feeling Mark is embarking on a slump and don't be surprised if he starts stinking it up. It's been happening over the last 2 games. Crossing fingers there is no carryover.


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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:07 AM

Nope, I think hes a 2nd year QB who will have ups and downs. I think last week the problem was the Broncos changed their entire defense for that game, they were running different formations and the offense was kind of confused since they game planned for a 3-4 team and they played a 4-3, guys were playing different positions than usual. I think Mark will improve his completion percentage as the season moves on.

I think he throws for over 20 TDs and around 10-15 INTs.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 11:12 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 21 October 2010 - 07:52 AM, said:

Anyone else get the feeling that Mark is on the verge of a meltdown?.. if you look at the Vikings game leading into the Broncos game he's played very poorly. One thing I notice about Mark is if his first read is there he's usually pretty good. However when he has to go from 2nd to 3rd in his progressions is when he just hangs on to the football and starts to panic (Bronco game it happened a lot). That's the reason Schotty uses bootlegs and P.A rollouts because often times those are easy completions (mind you the running game has to be in place).

In any event. I just have a feeling Mark is embarking on a slump and don't be surprised if he starts stinking it up. It's been happening over the last 2 games. Crossing fingers there is no carryover.


I don't think so. throw out the number and mark was crisp. in the vikes game he only had 2 bad throws all game and both came on the jets last posesssion on 2nd and 11 and then 3rd and 11 (2nd and 11 he missed holmes and 3rd and 11 be bought time in teh pocket and then overthrew and open edwards) other then that all his throws were good. there were like 8 drops, holmes dropped a 50 yard TD, you cna't put it all on Mark. He has looked good. he takes hs progressions has good pocket awareness and knows when to take the sack and when to buy time, he looks like a real QB this year
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:25 PM

The broncos took the middle of the field away from us so we were running vertical routes which has a small window to complete . you just have to give credit to Daniels for scheming against us. However i did mention somewhere in a thread that #1 we don't have a bread & Butter play #2 we don't have the mentality needed like Montana knowing who is going to be open based on the reads of the defense because we try to make the defense change to our desired scheme. when this isn't working it seems to me that shotty needs to go with the Montana style west coast .
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:41 PM

he's made some big throws. like this one

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:19 PM

No chance of a meltdown!!! The Viking game, he was throwing a wet ball..as evidenced by a minimum of 5 drops....the altitude in Denver, I would believe has to have an effect on a young QB playing there for the 1st time....that ball just takes off as evidenced by a 59, and 56 yard field goals that looked like they both would have been good from 65 yards...and Folks 5 kickoffs being DEEP into the endzone...

The kid is really developing!! And when him and Santonio get on the same page his development will only be that much better...

My only 2 flaws that I think that he needs to work on are his propensity of having way too many balls knocked down at the line, and trying to put too much touch on his short and intermediate throws over the middle...
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:25 PM

I hope you're right!

Even is he has a God awful game though, it's not detrminative of what his NFL career will be. Nor will a great game. He's a 2nd year QB, he will have highs and lows.

Dolphins fans do the same thing with Henne. Good game, he's the next Marino. Bad game, Cleo Lemon. It's all foolish.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:36 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 21 October 2010 - 06:25 PM, said:

I hope you're right!

Even is he has a God awful game though, it's not detrminative of what his NFL career will be. Nor will a great game. He's a 2nd year QB, he will have highs and lows.

Dolphins fans do the same thing with Henne. Good game, he's the next Marino. Bad game, Cleo Lemon. It's all foolish.


I saw Henne play while at Michigan and I was impressed with the guy. If the Dolphins ever decide to run a conventional offense and give him a chance to develop as an NFL quarterback then they'll see just how good this guy can be.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:40 PM

View Postcanuckfan, on 21 October 2010 - 06:36 PM, said:

I saw Henne play while at Michigan and I was impressed with the guy. If the Dolphins ever decide to run a conventional offense and give him a chance to develop as an NFL quarterback then they'll see just how good this guy can be.


LOL. We do run a conventional offense.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:15 PM

He's about to play the Lions and Browns within the next month. I'm not too worried.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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Posted 22 October 2010 - 12:37 PM

Well this is the thing that scares me that other people may miss, now because were winning it gets clouded in the smoke. However Mark is 30th in the league in completion % which is a staggering number. It's ok because we can hang our hat on defense. However, IF Mark doesn't pick it up were going to falter down the stretch when we will need to make plays. I'm a huge Mark Sanchez fan so I'm not hating on the guy. Mark can be a great QB in this league. However this day in time were talking about him NOW as a sophmore and he's reeling a bit. Of course he has balance with his lack or (luck) of having a low INT count and Steve Weatherford has been an absolute BEAST this season. So there are some things in favor of Mark this year. Good defense and usually opponents playing on a long field (thanks Weatherford).

Maybe I shouldn't have said meltdown because he's kind of already been slumping but completion % has been scary and we can't really make excuses for him. It only rained for maybe 10 minutes during the game and most of it happened at halftime. On the road against Broncos is tough. Maybe the loudest place in the league but Mark looked absolutely lost in the first half. It looked like he didn't even really want to throw it.

Even after the game he kinda went after Schotty saying something along the lines of. " On the 2nd pick we should have ran it, no need to call a pass play there" Maybe he's right but as a QB you have to want to be able to throw it. As a QB you should want to throw it every down. A little bit of a lack of confidence.

Just saying. When Marks gets rattled it's visible. My Uncle, who played as a QB over here and played over in Europe for a few years text me. Says that Mark is tipping his hand. Says that he sees a few things presnap that defenses are keying on. Said that Broncos were basically in Jets huddle. It definitely seemed like it. Broncos were all over everything. Mark has got to learn that when the run game isn't chugging you gotta be able to move the chains through the air. Without play action as your crutch.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 01:03 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 22 October 2010 - 10:37 AM, said:

Well this is the thing that scares me that other people may miss, now because were winning it gets clouded in the smoke. However Mark is 30th in the league in completion % which is a staggering number. It's ok because we can hang our hat on defense. However, IF Mark doesn't pick it up were going to falter down the stretch when we will need to make plays. I'm a huge Mark Sanchez fan so I'm not hating on the guy. Mark can be a great QB in this league. However this day in time were talking about him NOW as a sophmore and he's reeling a bit. Of course he has balance with his lack or (luck) of having a low INT count and Steve Weatherford has been an absolute BEAST this season. So there are some things in favor of Mark this year. Good defense and usually opponents playing on a long field (thanks Weatherford).

Maybe I shouldn't have said meltdown because he's kind of already been slumping but completion % has been scary and we can't really make excuses for me. It only rained for maybe 10 minutes during the game and most of it happened at halftime. On the road against Broncos is tough. Maybe the loudest place in the league but Mark looked absolutely lost in the first half. It looked like he didn't even really want to throw it.

Even after the game he kinda went after Schotty saying something along the lines of. " On the 2nd pick we should have ran it, no need to call a pass play there" Maybe he's right but as a QB you have to want to be able to throw it. As a QB you should want to throw it every down. A little bit of a lack of confidence.

Just saying. When Marks gets rattled it's visible. My Uncle, who played as a QB over here and played over in Europe for a few years text me. Says that make is tipping his hand. Says that he sees a few things presnap that defenses are keying on. Said that Broncos were basically in the huddle. It definitely seemed like it. Broncos were all over everything. Mark has got to learn that when the run game isn't chugging you gotta be able to move the chains through the air. Without play action as your crutch.


Its our offense. we run alot on 1st down and if we don't get yards were put in obvious passing situations. also on 3rd and long alot. sanchez has no problem letting it fly and we throw alot downfield. Eli manning had a sub 60% for his 1st 3.5 years in the league. then he also threw 54 Picks and his YPA was 5.3, 6.8, 6.3, and 6.2. it was the offense they ran. alot of running and chucking the ball downfield to loosen the defense up. now the gianst run alot of WR and RB screens, they run out of passing formations, and they run alot of high % throw plays like slants, WR screens, TE screens, etc and only take 1-3 shots downfield a game. the result? 60.3, 62.3, and 64.7% for eli YPA od 6.8, 7.3, 7.9 and 32 picks the past 2.5 years


Don't look too much into the numbers.look at how he is playing. i see mark going through progressions, staying in the pocket and moving well in it, buying time when he needs to, throwing beautiful passes on the run, and protecting the ball. the numbers don't tell the whole story
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 03:44 PM

Mark is awesome, this is what hes doing during the bye.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:55 AM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 21 October 2010 - 06:25 PM, said:

Even is he has a God awful game though, it's not detrminative of what his NFL career will be. Nor will a great game. He's a 2nd year QB, he will have highs and lows.


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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:30 AM

I agree with you dubb to a certain extent. The 5-1 record has masked some of the problems the jets have had this season including the QB play. While sanchez only has the two picks on the season, I'll be realistic here and say that he has been a little lucky he hasn't thrown more. The Minnesota game is a prime example...I was amazed that the vikings weren't able to come down with any interceptions because he had a couple of throws that looked exactly like what his first int was in denver. I believe he needs to work on his composure once the play starts breaking down. Sanchez has the ability to avoid the sacks and get out of the pocket when the pressure is coming, it's a great quality but once he has made the play to give him more time to throw I think he loses his sense and tends to rush his throws when he really doesn't have to. I believe that's where he needs to improve because he has shown some great flashes of his accuracy when he can get the ball out fast. He knows how to extend the play, he just needs to learn to stay calm once he has done so. I feel like this happens a couple of times a game...he'll get out and start moving and he'll find the open guy but just misses him because he rushed the throw...

I'm also thinking that aside from my previous point, him and santonio aren't quite on the same page yet. That will take some time but I believe his accuracy will improve once he can get in sync with santonio.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 10:12 AM

View Postextmenace, on 25 October 2010 - 06:30 AM, said:

I agree with you dubb to a certain extent. The 5-1 record has masked some of the problems the jets have had this season including the QB play. While sanchez only has the two picks on the season, I'll be realistic here and say that he has been a little lucky he hasn't thrown more. The Minnesota game is a prime example...I was amazed that the vikings weren't able to come down with any interceptions because he had a couple of throws that looked exactly like what his first int was in denver. I believe he needs to work on his composure once the play starts breaking down. Sanchez has the ability to avoid the sacks and get out of the pocket when the pressure is coming, it's a great quality but once he has made the play to give him more time to throw I think he loses his sense and tends to rush his throws when he really doesn't have to. I believe that's where he needs to improve because he has shown some great flashes of his accuracy when he can get the ball out fast. He knows how to extend the play, he just needs to learn to stay calm once he has done so. I feel like this happens a couple of times a game...he'll get out and start moving and he'll find the open guy but just misses him because he rushed the throw...

I'm also thinking that aside from my previous point, him and santonio aren't quite on the same page yet. That will take some time but I believe his accuracy will improve once he can get in sync with santonio.


I watch alot of games thanks to direcTV and also streaming game on the internet and i can tell you the same can be said of lots of QB. peyton manning had like 4 dropped last sunday night game against Washington. to say it coulda been a pick is stupid, just like to say the WR shoulda caught it is stupid. in the end he didn't. throw out the stats and look at sanchez's throws. i'd say about 90% of his throws eveyr game are great-perfect throws and about 5% good-decent throws and about 5% what was he thinking throws. I can live with that. especially with a 2nd year QB thats the 1st QB we had since vinny that can hit the deep out and throw the ball 40 yards down field with zip. Sanchez is the opposite of penny. he has the arm and ability to make any throw anytime, but doesn't have the mental aspect down. What makes peyton manning so good? not his arm strength or even his accuracy, its his football intelligence. Sanchez just needs to learn more about running an offense
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 10:42 AM

What makes peyton manning so good? not his arm strength or even his accuracy, its his football intelligence. wrong. it is the three paired together that indeed makes him so great.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 01:05 PM

Sanchez has been progressing nicely as a second year QB, but he is is going to have his ups and downs. THANKFULLY after the Green Bay game, the schedule gets a little lighter because our Offense has been predictable. Sanchez has been getting frustrated and it has been evident presnap. He gets anxious and wants to make something happen. He will improve. The dropped passes have been hurting him & we have been going deep more often which will also effect his numbers.

One thing that is hurting him is the lack of going to Keller in recent weeks. The second and third games of the season, it was Sanchez & Keller killing teams. How many attempts to Keller have we seen over the past couple games? It's either Keller has been almost forgotten or opposing team's Defenses have basically taken him out of games with coverage.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 01:49 PM

we have a 3 week strecth where we play NE, Pitt, and Mia. thats gonna be tough. if we can take 2 out of the 3 i'd be happy
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:18 PM

Dubb, I agree Mark needs to be better. But if I'm not mistaken, I bet if you looked at his attempts per game they'd probably be a lot lower than some of the other guys in the league.

It's weird, if you watch him you don't really notice all the incomplete passes. At least I don't. Sometimes I say, damnit you gotta make that throw.

However, I do notice that very rarely has this guy thrown 30 attempts in a game. It skews his numbers a bit. However, he needs to be better. No question about that. Our guys need to do better holding onto the ball though. One thing I noticed is that Mark throws high a lot. That needs to be fixed, but it's also one of the reasons his picks have been low IMO. He doesn't give defenders easy chances (usually). However, our WR's have to go up and make plays a lot and that's leading to drops and incomplete passes IMO. He's better than last season.
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