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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Mark Schlereth Goes Off On The Nfl Thank you Mr. Schlereth

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:14 PM



Thank you Mr. Schlereth. I hope Goodell was listening. The NFL world needed to hear this. Paul Tagliabue would have never let this happen. Since Goodell took over it`s been one thing after another. He`s trying to change over a 100 years worth of how the game has been played, all in a couple years.

I`m so pissed off with all these rule changes because you know the zebras are going to be letting the laundry fly a ton.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:21 PM

The NFL didn't change any rules just now. Just increased the penalties. the game was not played like it is now 50 or 100 years ago. Tackling wasn;t always done with the helmet.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:55 PM

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The NFL didn't change any rules just now. Just increased the penalties. the game was not played like it is now 50 or 100 years ago. Tackling wasn;t always done with the helmet.


It`s been a constant power struggle. Signs of changing times. Schlereth makes great points. The NFL is a great league and football is the best sport. Everyone loves it and people that played or have played knew what they were getting into when then buckle the chin straps. Why should 1 man tear all that down because of 1 weekend.

Maybe you missed this. http://www.nfl.com/v...2/Player-safety

There is no way for the league to govern this. It is nothing but downhill from here. The NFL has done more over the last 5 years then Tagliabue done in 20 years (Im reaching but you get the idea). Since Goodell has taken the reigns it`s progressively gotten worse.

It`s human instinct to lower into a player ( IE: Rugby). The NFL can`t have it both ways. They can`t market violence and big hits yet suspend and penalize players 75,000 dollars at the same time. It`s disgusting and Goodell is rubbing a lot people the wrong way. I agree with malicious hits. Hits that can be avoided. EVEN OFFENSIVE PLAYERS ARE AGAINST IT. If that doesn`t tell you somethings wrong then nothing will. This benefits offensive players and they don`t even want it.

It`s all ready bad enough.

- You can`t hit the QB outside of the `strike zone`
- You can lead with the helmet,shoulder or forearm (they are going to throw flags at nauseam now)
- devistating hits will get flagged whether their Illegal or not
- suspensions as well as fines are now part of the equation
- You can`t launch into a player ( Ray Lewis launched into Dustin Keller. That`s a legal hit)
- You can`t slam another person into the ground
- You can`t fall or drive a person into the ground

It was already bad enough and now their going to raise the level of how their enforce this.

No excuses.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 06:10 PM

EVERY sport periodically changes to make it safer for the participants. Should they take out the helmets all together? There's some who argue the helmet has made the sport more dangerous anyways.

There still can be big hits, and they will still still be glorified. The NFL is just trying to avoid the big hits that more often result in serious injury.

There's also a legal component to it. The NFL now knows what type of injury can result from certain types of hits and what situations make it more likely the injuries will occur (the wedge, leading with the helmet, etc.). That opens them up to liability should they choose to do nothing about it.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:22 PM

That is what this is all about presently because the league is negligent in this regard as for not getting the concussions down so the CBA is coming and they have a great case . so the NFL is passing the buck by fine's to help off set the cost that they need to help pay for health care for all ex players. this is part of it. I have expressed my self since goodell the communist Zcar got into office if you all recall i said they are but slaves to the masters.Goodell and the competition committee and the owners are responsibly for the product they put on the filed and television. at the expense to the fans and the players . Since this is a business and we are under corporate rule we will loose in the end.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 07:33 PM

How many more ex players will get on board with this ? its time to strike against these elitists because its all about the money and they can not change their ways unless they are forced to submit by force . you see this is real life in a microcosm literally . The pharaoh rules over his subjects. if someone in a leadership role shows up to save the day it will a farce and it will be business as usual. the solution is this needs to go back to being a sport .
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 09:21 PM

You mean czar? How is this communist? Do you know what communism is?

Slave to the masters? Please. How many slaves got paid $100 million? I'll give you a clue, 10 less than 10.

That was a whole lot of historical examples for none of them to makes sense.

The fines aren't offsetting anything for the NFL. They're to serve as deterrents for breaking the rules. Roger Goodell/the NFL don't pocket the fine money.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 12:50 AM

Knowing what I know now about the dangers of football in terms of head injuries and brain damage...I'll never let my kid (if I ever have any) play the sport. I love football, its a fun game to watch, but its a violent sport for crazy people. And yes I've done it too. I was an OL, luckily I never had to take or dish out any big hits. Just no way will I allow my future son to jeopardize his life for a sport.

There's plenty of other sports like baseball, basketball, soccer, tennis that he can play.
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