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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 06:49 PM) Well it's only pre season but I don't enjoy watching them walk right over our defense
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:20 PM) Looks like nothing has changed from the last 5 years. Our offense is still trash
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:50 PM) Damn petty has a rocket arm!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:54 PM) Kellen Davis sucks
Mr_Jet Icon : (22 August 2015 - 12:40 PM) Bryce Petty looked really good last night.
azjetfan Icon : (22 August 2015 - 04:56 PM) He took some big steps from week one. There is no question. If he continues to progress like that we may be chanting for him sooner than expected. I love his arm.
azjetfan Icon : (22 August 2015 - 06:56 PM) Sanchez looks like Drew Bree's today
MikeGangGree... Icon : (25 August 2015 - 01:24 PM) WOOOOOOOO Ric Flair!
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) The guy in the fantasy league who said we're scared of Santana... is clearly santana.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) just sayin
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) im only half serious
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 09:30 AM) Also i suspect that santana
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 09:30 AM) might be santana
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 01:35 PM) Tough draw for Liverpool
Jetsman05 Icon : (27 August 2015 - 02:21 PM) Suarez second best in Europe... pretty good
SoReALSoJetS Icon : (29 August 2015 - 06:11 PM) anybody know a stream for it?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2015 - 06:49 AM) WOOOOO
Smedsthejet Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:10 AM) Jets just announced first 12 players to be released:
Smedsthejet Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:10 AM) T. J. Graham, Saalim Hakim, Austin Hill, DeVier Posey, Jonathon Rumph (WRs), Matt LaCosse (TE), James Brewer, Dalton Freeman (OL), Bryan Johnson (LB), Javier Arenas, Curtis Brown, Keith Lewis (DBs)
Smedsthejet Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:11 AM) A little surprised that Posey is gone in this first batch of moves, but then we did have a glut of WRs
ganggreen2003 Icon : (30 August 2015 - 07:50 PM) Any word on Leonard Williams injury?
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:49 PM) He will be ready week 1. Just a sprain
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 10:33 AM) so we whooped the giants ass pretty badly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 10:38 AM) bills cut fred jackson
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:29 PM) We got lucky with Williams
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:30 PM) Hes looked like a beast as well, so we need him healthy. Hes gonna be a future all pro
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:31 PM) Our offense can be competent this season
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:33 PM) Zac Stacy was a good add
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:46 PM) I'm surprised Freeman was cut, I thought he was a solid backup center. Guess they like Wesley Johnson better
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:58 PM) our offense is passable. we should put up 14-17 a game average
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:58 PM) should be enough for our Defense. our d-line is nasty with wilk, rich, snacks, and now williams
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:59 PM) out MLBs get picked on in coverage though. davis had a rough game
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:59 PM) our Cbs are way too good. cro revis and skrine. plus mcdougle looked solid. when milliner comes back, him being a dime back could be huge too
Jetsman05 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 02:24 PM) 17 points a game is "passable"? If we average 17 a game this season, we won't win more than 5 ball games.
Jetsman05 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 02:24 PM) Needs to be 20+
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 05:33 PM) Our offense should be better than its been in years
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 05:34 PM) which wouldn't take much
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 PM) another ex jet going to the pats http://theredzone.or...ms/Default.aspx
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:04 PM) our defense should allow an average of less then 14 a game IMO. If we can average 17 a agme I think we can win 9-10
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:25 PM) Jace Amaro was put on IR, torn labrum.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:26 PM) That sucks, I was looking forward to him at TE
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) Labrum tear....definitely out for the year. Its not a bad surgery. I used the sling for about a week before I ditched it completely. Supposed to use it for a full 6 weeks. You can get away without it but just have to be careful not raising or moving your arm much and no lifting of pretty much anything. As far as fully healing ....6 mon ths minimum but for lifting heavy and full contact sports I wouldnt trust 6 months
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:31 PM) Still not that bad of a surgery on a pain scale. after a few days it mostly just aches like hell. ice and keeping your arm still is important. sleeping is major hard for the first 3 weeks or so. You wake up in pain a god bit. Id be dreaming and jerk my right arm up or move it wrong or lay on it wrong and wake up in major pain. still I liked t better without the sling than being completely immobile with one arm and healed just fine. He will come back from it fine
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:37 PM) sucks we lost Amaro for the season
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Gholston Worst 2 + Years In A Decade hey it's a bye week

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 06:17 PM

Gholston has had the worst first 2 + years of any DE/OLB drafted in the first round for the 2000-2009 decade. as per Football Outsiders...

In all seriousness, I was looking at NYJETSCAP.com, and if I read it right, evn if Rex were to cut ties with him next season....he would account for 5.8 million in dead money, which could have been used on one of the WR's Santonio/Braylon...or Cromartie...

These rookie contracts, especially when a team has a top 10 pick really can hamper a team's future...as shown by this example...

The guy just ISN't a player.....Not to beat a dead horse, I think we can see it with our own eyes....

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 07:19 PM

Jason Fitzgerald- NYJETSCAP.com: Gholston had three years remaining on his contract with $5.9 million dollars in guaranteed salary. In addition if he participated in a certain percentage of the defensive snaps he earned a guaranteed bonus of about $3.6 million plus a number of pay raises in the last two years of his deal. That playtime based incentive, which is commonplace in all first round rookie contracts, was really limiting what the Jets could do with him. Had the Jets decided to cut Gholston after this season he would have counted for over $7 million in dead cap space, and potentially as high as $10.5 million had he seen significant playtime in 2010.

What the Jets did in the renegotiation was front Gholston a significant sum of money in the form of a $4 million dollar signing bonus and 500K pay raise for 2010. In return Vernon gave up the guaranteed playtime bonus, which allows the Jets to actually give him a chance to play without the financial commitment. The dead cap charge of releasing him would now be under $6 million dollars in 2011.

The Jets also added incentives to get him to play well if he wants to earn more money. Gholston has a $2.5 million dollar roster bonus due of the first day of the league year in 2011 and that figure can grow based on playtime and on field performance. He has a similar bonus in 2012. If Gholston continues his invisible man act on the field he will never see a penny from the Jets in 2011 and he will be cut the day before the bonus is due, similar to why the team released Thomas Jones and Lito Sheppard this
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Jets DE Vernon Gholston will collect $6.5 million this season, but the team can easily cut ties with him next year.
Per his restructured contract, Gholston's base salary drops from $2.25 million this season to $550,000 next season. He's also due a $2.5 million roster bonus in March of 2011, which the Jets have the right to not exercise. Gholston's value is on the rise in New York after the year-ending injury to Ropati Pitoitua, but he remains undersized for his new position at defensive end. The former No. 6 overall pick did record five tackles on Saturday night.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 07:38 PM

Thanks for breaking that down 0099.....He is as good as gone...without the cap hit due to the restructure...Not a Rex guy by no means!!!
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 09:46 PM

I don't think ANYONE would have guessed that Gholston would have been THIS bad. I started off liking him, then became somewhat lukewarm about him, then once we did get him I had hoped he was that pass rusher we have been looking for. This guy is the biggest waste of talent I have ever seen, he looks the part but just can't play the game.

Hopefully we can draft a real pass rusher pretty soon, I want someone who teams have to game plan against and can wreck havoc in the backfield and get to the QB when we need to. Like John Abraham back in the day, but someone that stays healthy and is tougher.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 12:31 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 23 October 2010 - 10:46 PM, said:

I don't think ANYONE would have guessed that Gholston would have been THIS bad. I started off liking him, then became somewhat lukewarm about him, then once we did get him I had hoped he was that pass rusher we have been looking for. This guy is the biggest waste of talent I have ever seen, he looks the part but just can't play the game.

Hopefully we can draft a real pass rusher pretty soon, I want someone who teams have to game plan against and can wreck havoc in the backfield and get to the QB when we need to. Like John Abraham back in the day, but someone that stays healthy and is tougher.



Sorry, not to sound all high n mighty but I had a strong feeling hed be a no show. I said it on here from day one hed be a bust and i hope id be wrong, but apparently not. He only showed up for 2 games his senior year, and he had a history of being lazy, that doesnt fly in the pros. That shouldnt fly anywhere. yea he is a physical speciman but there have been infamous players like that who were busts as well in the NFL. I wanted ANYONE other than Gholoston in that draft. he just struck me as the kind of guy that would dissapear and give up, and thats what hes done.

Ghost= look like Tarzan play like Jane, as classic of exapmle as they come.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:05 AM

Even thinking he would be bust I don't think anyone would have predicted he would have zero impact and not get a sack. I remember Hurricane not being a fan of his, but I don't think he thought he be this bad.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:38 PM

No one in their right mind predicted he was a bust of this magnitude
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 10:15 AM

Blair Thomas 2.0
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:39 PM

I wrote like a 3 paragraph topic on why I thought that Gholston would crap out the day after the draft... but no I didnt think he'd be dead weight to this extent.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:09 PM

Normally when a player is taken that high in the draft the player can contribute at some level. When I think of Vern I think of Ryan Leaf. Kinda sad actually. He has all the tools with no idea how to use them. Bryan Thomas was considered a let down but has been very servicable his whole career.
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