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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 February 2016 - 07:25 PM) Then they can re-sign Harrison, FItzpatrick, Ivory, and maybe Powell.
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (03 February 2016 - 10:30 AM) The jets would be fools to take on that contract
Jetsfan115 Icon : (03 February 2016 - 02:09 PM) keep powell, snakcs, wilkerson, and fitz. let ivory walk, trade richardson, cut cromartie, restructure brick
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vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:03 PM) Jerricho got screwed on the call in the first quarter but he dropped a few later on .
vjdbbq Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:04 PM) Screw Manning and his chicken parm .
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:29 PM) We need a pass rushing LB!! Look at Denver.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 February 2016 - 11:30 PM) Nothing against manning but he wasn't good at all this year and gives me hope that we can reach a super bowl with Fitzpatrick
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:28 PM) I cant stop thinking what are we going to do about Wilk
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:30 PM) right now we sit about 9 mill under the cap. we save 8 mil after we cut Cro
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:31 PM) I cant see us keeping Cro when we have Williams. Also we save 0 by cutting Milliner his 4 mil would just be dead money so we might not cut him
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:32 PM) so after we cut Cro we are 17 Million under the cap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:32 PM) If we cut Brick we save another 9
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) Mangold is owed 8.5 mil
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) Maybe we redo Brick and Mangold deals to free up some room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:37 PM) I just don't see us paying brick 14 mil next season. not when he wasn't good last season. so if we cut Brick and Cro we are 26 Mil under the cap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) Kerley and Cumberland save us 3 mil total
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) that would be 29 Mil
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:40 PM) breno giacomini Saves us another 4 mil
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:40 PM) that's would be 33 mil under the cap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:41 PM) Maybe we redo Bricks deal and move him to RT?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:41 PM) idk....just saying
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:42 PM) I really think we need Snacks more than we need Wilk.... I'm not in no way saying hes better than Wilk
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:42 PM) We have Rich and Williams if we lose Wilk
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:43 PM) Before everyone starts saying "Mike wants us to trade Wilk" I want to say that I think we should keep the guy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:44 PM) But if we are going to lose Wilk we better Tag and Trade him
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:44 PM) DO not let us lose him and get nothing back
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:46 PM) So if we trade Wilk we get a 1st rounder[at least] and we can Take a LT and a OLB in the 1st round.... Not sure who is out there to draft yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 03:47 PM) And maybe move Brick to RTA
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Gholston Worst 2 + Years In A Decade hey it's a bye week

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 06:17 PM

Gholston has had the worst first 2 + years of any DE/OLB drafted in the first round for the 2000-2009 decade. as per Football Outsiders...

In all seriousness, I was looking at NYJETSCAP.com, and if I read it right, evn if Rex were to cut ties with him next season....he would account for 5.8 million in dead money, which could have been used on one of the WR's Santonio/Braylon...or Cromartie...

These rookie contracts, especially when a team has a top 10 pick really can hamper a team's future...as shown by this example...

The guy just ISN't a player.....Not to beat a dead horse, I think we can see it with our own eyes....

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 07:19 PM

Jason Fitzgerald- NYJETSCAP.com: Gholston had three years remaining on his contract with $5.9 million dollars in guaranteed salary. In addition if he participated in a certain percentage of the defensive snaps he earned a guaranteed bonus of about $3.6 million plus a number of pay raises in the last two years of his deal. That playtime based incentive, which is commonplace in all first round rookie contracts, was really limiting what the Jets could do with him. Had the Jets decided to cut Gholston after this season he would have counted for over $7 million in dead cap space, and potentially as high as $10.5 million had he seen significant playtime in 2010.

What the Jets did in the renegotiation was front Gholston a significant sum of money in the form of a $4 million dollar signing bonus and 500K pay raise for 2010. In return Vernon gave up the guaranteed playtime bonus, which allows the Jets to actually give him a chance to play without the financial commitment. The dead cap charge of releasing him would now be under $6 million dollars in 2011.

The Jets also added incentives to get him to play well if he wants to earn more money. Gholston has a $2.5 million dollar roster bonus due of the first day of the league year in 2011 and that figure can grow based on playtime and on field performance. He has a similar bonus in 2012. If Gholston continues his invisible man act on the field he will never see a penny from the Jets in 2011 and he will be cut the day before the bonus is due, similar to why the team released Thomas Jones and Lito Sheppard this
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Jets DE Vernon Gholston will collect $6.5 million this season, but the team can easily cut ties with him next year.
Per his restructured contract, Gholston's base salary drops from $2.25 million this season to $550,000 next season. He's also due a $2.5 million roster bonus in March of 2011, which the Jets have the right to not exercise. Gholston's value is on the rise in New York after the year-ending injury to Ropati Pitoitua, but he remains undersized for his new position at defensive end. The former No. 6 overall pick did record five tackles on Saturday night.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 07:38 PM

Thanks for breaking that down 0099.....He is as good as gone...without the cap hit due to the restructure...Not a Rex guy by no means!!!
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 09:46 PM

I don't think ANYONE would have guessed that Gholston would have been THIS bad. I started off liking him, then became somewhat lukewarm about him, then once we did get him I had hoped he was that pass rusher we have been looking for. This guy is the biggest waste of talent I have ever seen, he looks the part but just can't play the game.

Hopefully we can draft a real pass rusher pretty soon, I want someone who teams have to game plan against and can wreck havoc in the backfield and get to the QB when we need to. Like John Abraham back in the day, but someone that stays healthy and is tougher.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 12:31 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 23 October 2010 - 10:46 PM, said:

I don't think ANYONE would have guessed that Gholston would have been THIS bad. I started off liking him, then became somewhat lukewarm about him, then once we did get him I had hoped he was that pass rusher we have been looking for. This guy is the biggest waste of talent I have ever seen, he looks the part but just can't play the game.

Hopefully we can draft a real pass rusher pretty soon, I want someone who teams have to game plan against and can wreck havoc in the backfield and get to the QB when we need to. Like John Abraham back in the day, but someone that stays healthy and is tougher.



Sorry, not to sound all high n mighty but I had a strong feeling hed be a no show. I said it on here from day one hed be a bust and i hope id be wrong, but apparently not. He only showed up for 2 games his senior year, and he had a history of being lazy, that doesnt fly in the pros. That shouldnt fly anywhere. yea he is a physical speciman but there have been infamous players like that who were busts as well in the NFL. I wanted ANYONE other than Gholoston in that draft. he just struck me as the kind of guy that would dissapear and give up, and thats what hes done.

Ghost= look like Tarzan play like Jane, as classic of exapmle as they come.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:05 AM

Even thinking he would be bust I don't think anyone would have predicted he would have zero impact and not get a sack. I remember Hurricane not being a fan of his, but I don't think he thought he be this bad.
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Posted 24 October 2010 - 11:38 PM

No one in their right mind predicted he was a bust of this magnitude
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 10:15 AM

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:39 PM

I wrote like a 3 paragraph topic on why I thought that Gholston would crap out the day after the draft... but no I didnt think he'd be dead weight to this extent.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:09 PM

Normally when a player is taken that high in the draft the player can contribute at some level. When I think of Vern I think of Ryan Leaf. Kinda sad actually. He has all the tools with no idea how to use them. Bryan Thomas was considered a let down but has been very servicable his whole career.
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