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"Michael Jordan is the greatest scorer, bu I may go as far as saying that Lebron James may be the greatest player of all time".

Via: Twitter

Scottie Pippen is a figure head. Sit your ugly ass down and STFU

[Mr_Jet]

At the end of the day who cares who was the "best of all-time." I know it's hard for anybody between ages 45 to 25 to believe but there was basketball before Michael Jordan. There is no way people in that 45 to 25 age group can be objective. We grew up watching that Gatorade commercial with the catchy jingle about how everybody wanted to be "like Mike." We grew up to value a pair of shoes it cost less than $5 to make but cost over $200 to buy just because it had Jordan's logo on them. He is not THE best of all time. He doesn't have the most championships (Bill Russell) he doesn't have the most points (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar), he didn't average a triple double for an entire season (Oscar Robertson), and he doesn't have the most wins (probably Kareem too). Jordan was the best of his era (I'll say 1988-1998) but that's it. It's like I said before Jordan's era began when cable TV entered more and more homes and by the time his era was ending the internet was exploding. We just think he is the G.O.A.T. because we've seen the endless highlights of the shot over Craig Ehlo, Marv Albert talking about the spectacular move, and the push off and the "final" shot over Bryon Russell. We grew up with his posters on our walls and his jersey on our body so many of us are extremely biased towards him. But at the end of the day Jordan didn't win every game and he didn't make every shot just like a lot of great players before him and after him.

Michael Jordan also as I said in another thread benefited from rule changes that made things easier for him. Unlike Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor who had to deal with rule changes to make the game harder for them. Because of Chamberlain's dominance dunking was not allowed in the NBA for a period of time and not until the ABA showed that fans liked slam dunks did it become more acceptable in the NBA. Now imagine Jordan not being allowed to dunk. Imagine a SportsCenter without slam dunk highlights. David Stern knew like Paul Tagliabue knew more offense meant for a more entertaining product which translates into more TV money. That didn't matter as much before the 1980s in the NBA at least. You put Jordan in the 1960s and Elgin Baylor in the 1990s and people would be walking around in "Air Baylors." Jordan is ONE OF the greatest players of all time and the greatest player of his era, but that's it.

In regards to LeBron I'm one of those who think LeBron's game is more in the mold of Magic Johnson's rather than Michael Jordan's. Like Magic, LeBron has the ability to make his teammates better and put them in the right position at the right time to win. He can get a triple double on any given night like Magic could. He can rebound and pass like Magic could. The only difference is Magic wanted to play point guard and run the show from day one. LeBron like many of our generation grew up watching Jordan's dominance and wanted to be "like Mike," and so tried to pattern his game after Jordan's. LeBron is not better and not worse, just different.

[SecondHandJets]

Mr_Jet, on 28 May 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

At the end of the day who cares who was the "best of all-time." I know it's hard for anybody between ages 45 to 25 to believe but there was basketball before Michael Jordan. There is no way people in that 45 to 25 age group can be objective. We grew up watching that Gatorade commercial with the catchy jingle about how everybody wanted to be "like Mike." We grew up to value a pair of shoes it cost less than $5 to make but cost over $200 to buy just because it had Jordan's logo on them. He is not THE best of all time. He doesn't have the most championships (Bill Russell) he doesn't have the most points (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar), he didn't average a triple double for an entire season (Oscar Robertson), and he doesn't have the most wins (probably Kareem too). Jordan was the best of his era (I'll say 1988-1998) but that's it. It's like I said before Jordan's era began when cable TV entered more and more homes and by the time his era was ending the internet was exploding. We just think he is the G.O.A.T. because we've seen the endless highlights of the shot over Craig Ehlo, Marv Albert talking about the spectacular move, and the push off and the "final" shot over Bryon Russell. We grew up with his posters on our walls and his jersey on our body so many of us are extremely biased towards him. But at the end of the day Jordan didn't win every game and he didn't make every shot just like a lot of great players before him and after him.

Michael Jordan also as I said in another thread benefited from rule changes that made things easier for him. Unlike Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor who had to deal with rule changes to make the game harder for them. Because of Chamberlain's dominance dunking was not allowed in the NBA for a period of time and not until the ABA showed that fans liked slam dunks did it become more acceptable in the NBA. Now imagine Jordan not being allowed to dunk. Imagine a SportsCenter without slam dunk highlights. David Stern knew like Paul Tagliabue knew more offense meant for a more entertaining product which translates into more TV money. That didn't matter as much before the 1980s in the NBA at least. You put Jordan in the 1960s and Elgin Baylor in the 1990s and people would be walking around in "Air Baylors." Jordan is ONE OF the greatest players of all time and the greatest player of his era, but that's it.

In regards to LeBron I'm one of those who think LeBron's game is more in the mold of Magic Johnson's rather than Michael Jordan's. Like Magic, LeBron has the ability to make his teammates better and put them in the right position at the right time to win. He can get a triple double on any given night like Magic could. He can rebound and pass like Magic could. The only difference is Magic wanted to play point guard and run the show from day one. LeBron like many of our generation grew up watching Jordan's dominance and wanted to be "like Mike," and so tried to pattern his game after Jordan's. LeBron is not better and not worse, just different.

Have nice cold cup of Shut The Fukc Up. Jordan is the greatest.

What Pip meant, is that more than anyone since MJ, LBJ has a chance to be as dominant as MJ was during his era. What LBJ has going for him that MJ didn't is he's a physical freak. He's just so big and fast (especially for his position). Combine his body type with his talents and he's just impossible to stop. He's probably the 3rd one on the list of players who were blessed with a body that was too big and too strong for opponents. Right behind Shaq and Bill Russell and slightly ahead of Magic.

I think LBJ will forever have questions about his mental make up. He does not have that "I'm going to cut your heart out" mentality. Very few athletes are as competitive as MJ was and fewer still have that nasty streak. Kobe tried to manufacture it, but he needed team mates to carry the team for stretches during every playoff series. Shaq never had it or he could've become The Greatest of all time (instead, he just got fat). We'll see what LBJ has in store for us. He's still very young and he's on (obviously) a dynasty type team.

[Mr_Jet]

SecondHandJets, on 28 May 2011 - 09:15 AM, said:

Have nice cold cup of Shut The Fukc Up. Jordan is the greatest.

What Pip meant, is that more than anyone since MJ, LBJ has a chance to be as dominant as MJ was during his era. What LBJ has going for him that MJ didn't is he's a physical freak. He's just so big and fast (especially for his position). Combine his body type with his talents and he's just impossible to stop. He's probably the 3rd one on the list of players who were blessed with a body that was too big and too strong for opponents. Right behind Shaq and Bill Russell and slightly ahead of Magic.

I think LBJ will forever have questions about his mental make up. He does not have that "I'm going to cut your heart out" mentality. Very few athletes are as competitive as MJ was and fewer still have that nasty streak. Kobe tried to manufacture it, but he needed team mates to carry the team for stretches during every playoff series. Shaq never had it or he could've become The Greatest of all time (instead, he just got fat). We'll see what LBJ has in store for us. He's still very young and he's on (obviously) a dynasty type team.

You don't put cream in your coffee, you use Michael Jordan's cu/m instead.


Like I said Jordan didn't win the most championships or get the most points or MVPs. He was just the best player in the world from the late 80s to the late 90s. That's it. And even in his era Magic was a better passer, Larry was a better shooter, and Barkley was a better rebounder. Jordan was just the best scorer and the most exciting and most marketable player of the David Stern era.

Now go back to drinking your Gatorade, eating your Ball Park franks, and wearing your overpriced Air Jordans while MJ donates to President Obama's re-election campaign.

[SecondHandJets]

Mr_Jet, on 28 May 2011 - 11:18 PM, said:

You don't put cream in your coffee, you use Michael Jordan's cu/m instead.


Like I said Jordan didn't win the most championships or get the most points or MVPs. He was just the best player in the world from the late 80s to the late 90s. That's it. And even in his era Magic was a better passer, Larry was a better shooter, and Barkley was a better rebounder. Jordan was just the best scorer and the most exciting and most marketable player of the David Stern era.

Now go back to drinking your Gatorade, eat your Ball Park franks and wear your overpriced Air Jordans while MJ donates to President Obama's re-election campaign.

MJ wasn't the best passer. He wasn't the best shooter. He just happened to be the best on offense and the best on defense. His physical talents weren't on the same level as Magic, but his mentality was second to none. There never was and there'll never be another individual as perfectly flawed as MJ was. He continued to believe that no one believed in him even when he was the greatest ever. That's what made him get better each and every year.

I buy my Jordans on ebay and I don't drink coffee because it's black.

[Mr_Jet]

SecondHandJets, on 29 May 2011 - 10:21 AM, said:

MJ wasn't the best passer. He wasn't the best shooter. He just happened to be the best on offense and the best on defense. His physical talents weren't on the same level as Magic, but his mentality was second to none. There never was and there'll never be another individual as perfectly flawed as MJ was. He continued to believe that no one believed in him even when he was the greatest ever. That's what made him get better each and every year.

But you forgot to add this part to your post.

. . . In the beginning Michael Jordan created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Michael Jordan moved upon the face of the waters. And Michael Jordan said, Let there be light: and there was light. . .

Then at some point later on in the post you should tell us all about how Jeffrey Jordan dies on to the cross for all of our sins.

And ironically as I write this on a Sunday afternoon God...I mean Michael Jordan appears on my TV in a Hanes t-shirt commercial. He truly does work in mysterious ways.

[SecondHandJets]

Mr_Jet, on 29 May 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

But you forgot to add this part to your post.

. . . In the beginning Michael Jordan created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Michael Jordan moved upon the face of the waters. And Michael Jordan said, Let there be light: and there was light. . .

Then at some point later on in the post you should tell us all about how Jeffrey Jordan dies on to the cross for all of our sins.

And ironically as I write this on a Sunday afternoon God...I mean Michael Jordan appears on my TV in a Hanes t-shirt commercial. He truly does work in mysterious ways.

Comedy is not your thing. Stick to 1500 character paragraphs filled with blandness that you pick up through google searches.

[Mr_Jet]

SecondHandJets, on 30 May 2011 - 10:45 AM, said:

Comedy is not your thing. Stick to 1500 character paragraphs filled with blandness that you pick up through google searches.

You should be the last person to tell somebody that comedy isn't their thing considering you're about as funny as a Jay Leno monologue. And your "best material" you steal from Matt Parker and Trey Stone anyway.

[SecondHandJets]

Mr_Jet, on 30 May 2011 - 12:01 PM, said:

You should be the last person to tell somebody that comedy isn't their thing considering you're about as funny as a Jay Leno monologue. And your "best material" you steal from Matt Parker and Trey Stone anyway.

You make Damon Wayans sound funny.

[Mr_Jet]

SecondHandJets, on 30 May 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

You make Damon Wayans sound funny.

That was weak. See it's not easy when you don't have somebody to steal from.

[SecondHandJets]

Mr_Jet, on 30 May 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

That was weak. See it's not easy when you don't have somebody to steal from.

Go ahead Damon. Set up an punchline with another 15 sentences. We're all anxiously waiting to read your 2 pages of a joke.

[Mr_Jet]

SecondHandJets, on 30 May 2011 - 12:58 PM, said:

Go ahead Damon. Set up an punchline with another 15 sentences. We're all anxiously waiting to read your 2 pages of a joke.

The only one anxiously awaiting is you.

[HarlemHxC814]

I've said it before, but you two really need a reality show together...

[Amen]

All I'm saying is....


Scottie Pippen was right.

[santana]

LBJs career is still bullshit compared to MJs

i don't even know why this conversation comes up time and time again

MJ has a ncaa championship scoring titles mvps final mvps rings etc etc

lbj has size and speed to dunk and a solid jump shot

IMO its not even fucking close

shaq agrees with me fuck pippen

[Jetsfan0099]

[S-Dubb]

I love this commercial. One of the best all time IMO

[SecondHandJets]

TOPIC CLOSED.

[I-STILL-HATE-KOTITE]

Lebron plays just like Vince Carter in big playoff games. All the talent but they can't handle the moment.

[santana]

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Scottie Pippen had it all wrong when he recently compared LeBron James with Michael Jordan, said one former Chicago Bulls teammate.

"The irony to me is that LeBron is not Michael. LeBron is actually Scottie," former Bull and current television analyst Steve Kerr said Monday on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "He's so similar to Scottie in that defensively he was just a monster, could guard anybody, really more of a point forward than scoring guard. Scottie always loved to distribute the ball. That's really where LeBron's preference is.

"Phil Jackson used to call Scottie a 'sometimes shooter.' Sometimes they would go in, sometimes they wouldn't. That's how it is with LeBron. He's a great talent and a great player but you can see his flaws as as a basketball player. He doesn't have an offensive game that he can rely on: no low-post game, no mid-range jump shot so when the game really gets tough he has a hard time finding easy baskets and getting himself going. That's what Michael did in his sleep so that's why the comparison is wrong."

"Michael had three years at North Carolina with Dean Smith. That makes a big difference," Kerr said. "I think he was brought up at a time when there was probably better development at a young age in terms of coaching. I think LeBron is a product of the AAU system where you rely on your athleticism, you go and play 100 games a year but maybe you don't focus on your weaknesses and what you need to lock in on.

"As a result, fundamentally and technically LeBron has some flaws. He has to address those. If I were him I would spend all summer down on the low block shooting jump hooks and turnaround jump shots -- the entire summer."