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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
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NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
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Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
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Man Robs Bank To Get Medical Care In Jail

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 02:48 PM

Man Robs Bank to Get Medical Care in Jail
By Zachary Roth

http://news.yahoo.co...al-care-in-jail

Some people who need medical care but can't afford it go to the emergency room. Others just hope they'll get better. James Richard Verone robbed a bank.

Earlier this month, Verone (pictured), a 59-year-old convenience store clerk, walked into a Gaston, N.C., bank and handed the cashier a note demanding $1 and medical attention. Then he waited calmly for police to show up.

He's now in jail and has an appointment with a doctor this week.

Verone's problems started when he lost the job he'd held for 17 years as a Coca Cola deliveryman, amid the economic downturn. He found new work driving a truck, but it didn't last. Eventually, he took a part-time position at the convenience store.

But Verone's body wasn't up to it. The bending and lifting made his back ache. He had problems with his left foot, making him limp. He also suffered from carpal tunnel syndrome and arthritis.

Then he noticed a protrusion on his chest. "The pain was beyond the tolerance that I could accept," Verone told the Gaston Gazette. "I kind of hit a brick wall with everything."

Verone knew he needed help--and he didn't want to be a burden on his sister and brothers. He applied for food stamps, but they weren't enough either.
So he hatched a plan. On June 9, he woke up, showered, ironed his shirt. He mailed a letter to the Gazette, listing the return address as the Gaston
County Jail.

"When you receive this a bank robbery will have been committed by me," Verone wrote in the letter. "This robbery is being committed by me for one dollar. I am of sound mind but not so much sound body."

Then Verone hailed a cab to take him to the RBC Bank. Inside, he handed the teller his $1 robbery demand.

"I didn't have any fears," said Verone. "I told the teller that I would sit over here and wait for police."

The teller was so frightened that she had to be taken to the hospital to be checked out. Verone, meanwhile, was taken to jail, just as he'd planned it.

Because he only asked for $1, Verone was charged with larceny, not bank robbery. But he said that if his punishment isn't severe enough, he plans to tell the judge that he'll do it again. His $100,000 bond has been reduced to $2,000, but he says he doesn't plan to pay it.

In jail, Verone said he skips dinner to avoid too much contact with the other inmates. He's already seen some nurses and is scheduled to see a doctor on Friday. He said he's hoping to receive back and foot surgery, and get the protrusion on his chest treated. Then he plans to spend a few years in jail, before getting out in time to collect Social Security and move to the beach.

Verone also presented the view that if the United States had a health-care system which offered people more government support, he wouldn't have had to make the choice he did.

"If you don't have your health you don't have anything," Verone said.

The Affordable Care Act, President Obama's health-care overhaul passed by Congress last year, was designed to make it easier for Americans in situations like Verone's to get health insurance. But most of its provisions don't go into effect until 2014.

As it is, Verone said he thinks he chose the best of a bunch of bad options. "I picked jail."
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 03:05 PM

wow, its sad to read a story like that. the poor guy had to go to jail in order to get medical care.
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 04:17 PM

What's even more sad is every member of congress has health care coverage and it's guys like James Verone who's taxes paid for their coverage. We can pay for their's but we can't pay for each other's? We need to wake up.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 22 June 2011 - 01:10 PM

Back in the day I used to know a few guys who'd commit crimes and get busted so they can get their teeth fixed and what have you. Definitely f*cked up.
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Posted 22 June 2011 - 01:38 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 22 June 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:

Back in the day I used to know a few guys who'd commit crimes and get busted so they can get their teeth fixed and what have you. Definitely f*cked up.


Yep and what pisses me off is our neighbors to the north have free health care coverage for all their citizens.

I just don't understand why Americans don't realize that the more healthier we all are the more productive workforce we will have. I'd be perfectly willing to pay a little more in taxes so that my neighbor can go to the doctor when he is sick or injured. The faster he gets better the faster he gets back to work (and becomes a taxpayer again).

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 22 June 2011 - 04:46 PM

I read this article yesterday on Yahoo. My favorite part is that the dude is quoted as saying that he plans to spend a few years in jail so by the time he gets out, he's eligible for social security. That's hardcore.
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Posted 22 June 2011 - 04:55 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 22 June 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

I read this article yesterday on Yahoo. My favorite part is that the dude is quoted as saying that he plans to spend a few years in jail so by the time he gets out, he's eligible for social security. That's hardcore.


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Posted 22 June 2011 - 10:31 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 22 June 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

Yep and what pisses me off is our neighbors to the north have free health care coverage for all their citizens.

I just don't understand why Americans don't realize that the more healthier we all are the more productive workforce we will have. I'd be perfectly willing to pay a little more in taxes so that my neighbor can go to the doctor when he is sick or injured. The faster he gets better the faster he gets back to work (and becomes a taxpayer again).


But but but, it's socialism! Ooohh, potentially scary word!
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 02:20 AM

I just don't think it's fair to people who lead healthy lifestyles to have to pay for the health care of those who don't.

I mean, there's already people who want to regulate what your food can be cooked in, or what you can eat at all. What happens when you give your neighbor a financial interest in your health? You think he's gonna want more or less control over your life choices?

I work out and eat fairly well. Am I gonna get tax breaks as opposed to the dumb ass that smokes, drinks an insane amount, can't control what he eats and refuses to exercise?
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 09:53 AM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 23 June 2011 - 03:20 AM, said:

I work out and eat fairly well. Am I gonna get tax breaks as opposed to the dumb ass that smokes, drinks an insane amount, can't control what he eats and refuses to exercise?


Great point bro unfortunately the strong take care of the weak. That's how society works and that's what makes Westerns and or modernized societies better for an overall life and why people who were born in less fortunate countries flock over here or to England ect, ect.

It's just the compassion that comes with being human. It's labeled as inhumane to let another man suffer if one as the mind, fortitude and wealth to help someone who doesn't quite have it together. Also, was as being the smartest living organisms on this planet should know how to ration food, drink and moderation and avoid the dangers of heavy smoking and such. However what we make and do inflicts the same people who we make and do things for. Canned food in plastic, beverages loaded with sugar, stored in non biodegratable bottles that pose as a potential health risk to all that consume them and I'm just merely scratching the surface.

If we are going to continually poison, our own people then don't you think we should look after the weaker majority? I think so.
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 10:58 AM

"Reducing inequity is the highest form of human achievement"

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 11:44 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 23 June 2011 - 10:53 AM, said:

Great point bro unfortunately the strong take care of the weak. That's how society works and that's what makes Westerns and or modernized societies better for an overall life and why people who were born in less fortunate countries flock over here or to England ect, ect.

It's just the compassion that comes with being human. It's labeled as inhumane to let another man suffer if one as the mind, fortitude and wealth to help someone who doesn't quite have it together. Also, was as being the smartest living organisms on this planet should know how to ration food, drink and moderation and avoid the dangers of heavy smoking and such. However what we make and do inflicts the same people who we make and do things for. Canned food in plastic, beverages loaded with sugar, stored in non biodegratable bottles that pose as a potential health risk to all that consume them and I'm just merely scratching the surface.

If we are going to continually poison, our own people then don't you think we should look after the weaker majority? I think so.


I'm fine with certain instances of contributing to the greater good with the government's gun at my head. We need roads, schools, police, etc. But it's gotta stop somewhere. The social systems we have are abused enough as it is.

If you wanna help your fellow man, that's great. It's a virtuous endeavor and one that I would likely choose as well especially if I'm fortunate enough to be in a position to do so more. I just don;t think it's the place of the government to FORCE people to pay for other people's poor choices so often.

I'd prefer the ability yo help out my friends and family than to be forced to dump money to a bunch of people who will waste it with their piss poor choices.

None of those sugary drinks would exist if there wasn't a demand. I'm all for letting people make their own choices. Ya know, freedom? They just shouldn't be looking for handouts from others when their own choices have consequences.

I hardly ever drink soda. Pretty much the only time is when its pepsi with whiskey in it haha. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't be pissed if the government bans it or taxes it out of my budget. I appreciate having the option of making that choice. I don't want the government (and remember, "government" just means your neighbors) having a huge say in my daily life.
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 11:47 AM

View Postsantana, on 23 June 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

"Reducing inequity is the highest form of human achievement"

"From those to whom much is given, much is expected"


That's fine but the government shouldn't be forcing people to this belief.

To reduce inequity do you take your pay check every week and split it among the first 10 homeless people you find? Even stevens, look at all this achievement. No one can afford a house!
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 05:13 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 23 June 2011 - 12:44 PM, said:

I'm fine with certain instances of contributing to the greater good with the government's gun at my head. We need roads, schools, police, etc. But it's gotta stop somewhere. The social systems we have are abused enough as it is.

If you wanna help your fellow man, that's great. It's a virtuous endeavor and one that I would likely choose as well especially if I'm fortunate enough to be in a position to do so more. I just don;t think it's the place of the government to FORCE people to pay for other people's poor choices so often.

I'd prefer the ability yo help out my friends and family than to be forced to dump money to a bunch of people who will waste it with their piss poor choices.

None of those sugary drinks would exist if there wasn't a demand. I'm all for letting people make their own choices. Ya know, freedom? They just shouldn't be looking for handouts from others when their own choices have consequences.

I hardly ever drink soda. Pretty much the only time is when its pepsi with whiskey in it haha. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't be pissed if the government bans it or taxes it out of my budget. I appreciate having the option of making that choice. I don't want the government (and remember, "government" just means your neighbors) having a huge say in my daily life.



But you see you may be able to afford to eat healthier but not everybody can. When a bag of potato chips costs less than a bag of apples in this country, that's a problem. When a two liter of pop costs less than a half gallon of milk in this country, that's a problem. A family that makes less than $15,000 a year can barely pay their bills let alone buy enough of the foods we're supposed to have daily on the food pyramid (or whatever it is they just changed it to). Plus once the government starts talking about taking the soda machines out of schools and changing the menu to a more nutritious menu that's when certain people start crying about the government trying to control local school districts and those decisions should be left up to the parents in those districts. Then when people start crying about taxes and teacher's salaries and how we need to cut budgets, guess which part of the curriculum in schools is one of the first to go. Physical Education. How are people supposed to learn about the benefits to eating healthy and exercise, if they don't learn it at a young age in school? That's where it starts.


Anyway that's one part of the problem. Not everybody who is sick and needs health care is sick because of poor decisions they've made. How is a person with leukemia at fault for their illness? How is a kid who is too young to have spent a lifetime of eating sugary foods at fault for getting diabetes? How is a person who is badly injured by a drunk driver and needs months of medical care to recover at fault for their injuries? We can all eat healthy and exercise but that still doesn't mean we're unable to get sick or injured. Some health problems can happen because of genetics or just from getting some bad luck.

What is even worse is many people can't even afford go to the doctor for regular checkups. Some health problems can be caught much earlier than they are if a person were able to see a doctor much sooner. If a man with high blood pressure knew about it months (or years) before he has a massive heart attack, don't you think it would be better to make sure that man has coverage earlier rather than later? The cost for a doctor to take that man's blood pressure and give him a prescription for pills to lower his blood pressure will be much less in the long run, than it would be if that same man were rushed to the ER and have to have emergency heart surgery. Because if that man goes to the ER and has no health care coverage, you're still going to be paying for his health care anyway. That checkup would've cost you much less than that ER visit and the weeks of recovery afterwords if he survives. Many of our major health problems could be caught sooner if people were able to see a doctor before it becomes an emergency.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 05:24 PM

View PostC l u t c H 385, on 23 June 2011 - 12:47 PM, said:

That's fine but the government shouldn't be forcing people to this belief.

To reduce inequity do you take your pay check every week and split it among the first 10 homeless people you find? Even stevens, look at all this achievement. No one can afford a house!



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you shouldn't have to be forced just take it.. TAKE IT WILLINGLY
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