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azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (Yesterday, 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (Yesterday, 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 05:32 PM

There has never been a time when the Giants have not looked down their nose at the Jets. The men of Mara Tech are portrayed by a fawning media as holier than thou, a totally "class" organization.

The Jets? Heathens. Their only legendary player a rebel whose cause was to pose in panty hose. Nothing much has changed over the years including Gang Green's us-against-the-world mentality, which has been magnified the past two seasons by their mouthy coach Rex Ryan.


But something is happening here. It seems like while John Mara was busy negotiating with players and their reps during the NFL lockout the Giants organization had a lobotomy and received the Jets brain in a transplant.

Look what went down last week. While Ryan was calmly answering questions posed by his chief antagonist Mike (Sports Pope) Francesa, Giants GM Jerry Reese, a guy anointed as an even-keeled operator, was bugging, spinning to the max.

Reese was playing defense but full of swagger, saying: "We'll make the plays this time and we'll get into the playoffs and we'll make a run." Reese can't be accused of stealing that line from the Rex Reader. He didn't guarantee a Giants Super Bowl win.


Still, Reese sounded delusional when he said: "We had a game plan. We're sticking to our game plan." No matter this line is impossible to swallow. Even a sainted organization must circle the wagons when the chips are down.


There was some good news, a silver lining for the Giants. At a time when the Jets owned the ink, air, and Internet, the Giants were breaking big on the back pages again. Tom Coughlin was heard from, too. Remember, he's the guy the Giants had media trained. Coughlin spoke out, saying he was "upset" over the way Steve Smith bolted to Philly. The coach was probably upset because Smith showed up five minutes early for a meeting - with Andy Reid.

"It's like lining up for the race, you're in the lockeroom, and nobody tells you the race is going to be run," Coughlin said. Very clever. The media training worked.

At least the coach wasn't hiding behind the Twitter account of Giants public relations operative Pat (Tweety) Hanlon. Here's a guy whose PR strategy includes going on Twitter and ripping fans, perhaps even paying customers, who dared to tweet critical comments about the Giants.

@BarstoolScott tweeted: On paper they ARE worse. no matter who signs your checks."

Hanlon: We don't play on paper. You know what you can do w/that paper?

Hanlon referred to one guy as a "knucklehead." He also tweeted he "could give a s--- about the proclamations at the end of the Turnpike."

Imagine if Ryan or Mark Sanchez took to Twitter to rip fans? The media would crucify them. It would become a big issue, another reason to blast the loudmouth, out-of-control coach who once was killed by the media for giving the finger to drunken fans at an MMA event.


Hanlon? He figuratively shoots the bird to fans on Twitter and skates. After all, he is a Giant. Hanlon must find this all very funny. So did the media. They rolled over for him.

Giants brass didn't care either. In fact it promoted Hanlon to senior vice president of communications.


A very Jets-like move.

SPORTS POPE'S GREEN DAY
Mike Tannenbaum and Ryan must have used the old Leon Hess strategy on WFAN's Francesa. They probably softened the Pope up by kissing his ring prior to him granting an audience with the likes of Plaxico Burress, Darrelle Revis and Sanchez at Jets camp Thursday.

The Pontiff didn't exactly hardball guys he had previously knocked. The main event was his one-on-one with Ryan. His Holiness must be credited for trying to prove a point - that no one tees Ryan off more than he does.

In three different ways The Ethereal One tried asking the coach if "I or anyone else" have said something "that has really bothered you." Ryan answered the same way each time, saying when he came to the Jets he realized the heat would be constant.

Ryan revealed something most managers and coaches around here are reluctant to do. "I read almost everything written (about me and the Jets)," he said.


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Posted 14 August 2011 - 08:02 PM

if ryan reads everything he doesn't have much time to coach
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