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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Rex About The D "I wouldn't trade this defense for anybody’s in the league.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:34 AM

Is Rex right about the defense?
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"Will we end up being the best defense in football? I think so," Jets coach Rex Ryan said Tuesday. "I challenge everybody: Put your negatives comments out there and we'll see what happens in the end, because I think our defense is going to be outstanding.

"I wouldn't trade this defense for anybody’s in the league."

Some might mock Ryan, saying he's always predicting No. 1 rankings and Super Bowls, but there are concrete reasons for the optimism. Namely:

• Continuity. The Jets return 10 starters, a rarity in the musical chairs world of the NFL. Nine starters have been in Ryan's system for at least two years, meaning there should be fewer communication breakdowns than in past years.

Ryan and coordinator Mike Pettine employ what safety Jim Leonhard likes to call "a thinking man’s defense," predicated on pre-snap adjustments and on-the-fly changes. Cohesiveness is mandatory, especially in the secondary, which finally has some stability. The Jets have 10 defensive backs who have played in the system.

"We're confident we have everything in place to make a strong run again," said Leonhard, who is healthy after missing the last five games of 2010 to a broken leg. "This year we feel like we can open it up and do a lot of things."

• Darrelle Revis is here. A year ago, Revis missed the entire preseason because of his contract holdout and he wasn't in top shape when he finally signed. Predictably, he pulled a hamstring that hampered him for the first half of the season. Now, after a full training camp, there's no reason the All-Pro cornerback shouldn't return to his 2009 form.

Revis already is feeling it, saying in a recent television interview, "This year is kind of like a revenge thing. I'm coming back and I'm coming back strong."

With Revis locking down an opponent's No. 1 receiver, it allows Pettine to get more creative with his blitz packages.

• Calvin Pace will play opening day. Yes, that qualifies as news. For the Jets' best pass rusher, this will mark his first opening day since 2008. He missed the first four games of 2009 (banned-substance suspension) and the first four last season (broken foot), putting to serious dent in the pass rush.

In fact, the entire starting unit is relatively healthy, which bodes well for the Jets in the season opener against the Dallas Cowboys.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:35 AM

Rex Ryan: 'I wouldn’t trade this defense for anybody’s in the league'
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Rex Ryan wasn’t overly concerned that Eli Manning & Co. marched up and down the field against the Jets’ defense last night. Gang Green allowed 224 total yards in the first half, but allowed only a field goal before intermission. Ryan’s defense also had a pair of interceptions after it “got off to a slow start.”

“I wouldn’t trade this defense for anybody’s in the league,” Ryan said today. “You’re not going to be perfect, but will we end up being the best defense in football? I think so. Believe me, the least concern I have is about our defense. I think our defense is going to be outstanding. I’ve always said that. I challenge everybody: Put your negative comments out there and we’ll see what happens at the end.”

Ryan admitted that “trying to get the offense in a rhythm” is the biggest area that needs improvement heading into the season opener against the Cowboys on Sept. 11.

Fullback John Conner suffered a sprained left ankle on Monday night. Although he’s getting around in a walking boot, Rex Ryan anticipates that he’ll be ready for the season opener on Sept. 11 vs. the Cowboys.

"I’m hopeful he’ll be ready,” Ryan said. “He's an awfully tough kid. I assume he would be ready."

WR Logan Payne will undergo surgery after dislocating his left wrist last night. Ryan was unsure of his timetable for recovery. The Daily News first reported that Payne dislocated his wrist and was scheduled to undergo an MRI this morning.

Backup QB Mark Brunell (calf) won’t practice. The team will monitor Darrelle Revis, who is dealing with a minor right hip issue.

Ryan expects that Sione Pouha (knee) will be ready for the season opener against the Cowboys.

Ryan was impressed with rookie Jeremy Kerley, who took several snaps out of the Wildcat formation against the Giants.

“He’s got a little bit of that Brad Smith in him,” Ryan said.

Ryan confirmed a Daily News report that Nick Folk will be the starting kicker. The team released Nick Novak this morning. Ryan praised Novak for pushing Folk in an virtually even battle in camp and the preseason, but “clearly I feel Folk’s our guy,” the coach said.

Ryan also confirmed that the team will go with punter T.J. Conley after releasing Chris Bryan.

Outside linebacker Aaron Maybin still has some work to do to make the team. Ryan admitted today that the former first-round pick “is going to have to do more” to make the roster. Maybin played some snaps with the first team on Monday so coaches could evaluate him against the Giants’ first-team offensive line. He’ll get plenty of playing time in the preseason finale against the Eagles.

"He's going to have to show us he’s that pass rusher he has a chance to be,” Ryan said. “"I think he can play in this league. We'll see if he can play for us."

First-round pick Mo Wilkerson and the rest of the rookies are expected to play on Thursday, Ryan said.

Undrafted rookie WR Courtney Smith was released.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 12:54 PM

This defense is ready to fly, the question is, is the offense ready?
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Posted 31 August 2011 - 01:10 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 31 August 2011 - 01:54 PM, said:

This defense is ready to fly, the question is, is the offense ready?

I hope I am wrong but take away 3 plays against the Bengals, Plaxico has shown me absolutely nothing that makes me think he is close to Edwards (who I have mixed feelings about myself). With Mark Sanchez trying to make progress each year, he needs continuity at the WR and TE positions. I love Holmes but don't think he can carry the WR corps by himself and will draw a lot of attention from defenses. Keller needs to be involved often and early in games or he seems to get forgotten or loses focus or something. It doesn't take a brainchild of Brian Schottenheimer's caliber to know enough to get him 2-3 catches in the first quarter of games...

Oh sorry, I forgot; Schotty isn't a brainchild, he is an idiot (IMO)
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Posted 31 August 2011 - 10:01 PM

View Postjetfan4life12, on 31 August 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

I hope I am wrong but take away 3 plays against the Bengals, Plaxico has shown me absolutely nothing that makes me think he is close to Edwards (who I have mixed feelings about myself). With Mark Sanchez trying to make progress each year, he needs continuity at the WR and TE positions. I love Holmes but don't think he can carry the WR corps by himself and will draw a lot of attention from defenses. Keller needs to be involved often and early in games or he seems to get forgotten or loses focus or something. It doesn't take a brainchild of Brian Schottenheimer's caliber to know enough to get him 2-3 catches in the first quarter of games...

Oh sorry, I forgot; Schotty isn't a brainchild, he is an idiot (IMO)



With the offensive tallent we have, we should be able to have an idiot at an OC.......But he seems to be proving that wrong...
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:22 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 31 August 2011 - 01:54 PM, said:

This defense is ready to fly, the question is, is the offense ready?

This is what scares me. The defense has looked pretty good bending but not breaking but the offense just looks flat and almost like they have no idea what thyre doing.
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