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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 01:06 AM

do you know how many giants have called out coughlin? current like rolle and past like tiki and strahan
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:00 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2011 - 01:06 AM, said:

do you know how many giants have called out coughlin? current like rolle and past like tiki and strahan


Tiki Barber's a joke who is bitter that the team won a SB when he was busy running his mouth and pretending to be the next big journalist. At the end of the say, Coughlin is a good coach and has a ring.

As to Plax, I assume he had a poor father figure. If I was illegally carrying a gun in public, shot myself on accident, I wouldn't get mad that someone said it was "sad and disappointing."

Zero percent chance I am going to be a Burress fan, before this or after this, but I guess I'd be saying pretty well the same about Braylon now, so oh well...
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:00 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 September 2011 - 06:23 PM, said:

His way of getting back? Seriously? Acting immature because others did, doesn't justify anything.

The simple fact that some (most probably) athletes look at the every day average person (me and you) and think we hate our lives because we're not million dollar making, overpaid professional athletes is a f***ing joke. All he see's apparently is the fact that he served jail time and he's come back and nothings changed in his life. He's still making big money and doing his thing.

He's an arrogant, ignorant punk who obviously didn't learn a damn thing while he was away.

Combine that with Jetfan's post he just made and its blatant how big of a punk Plaxico well and truly is. Nothing's changed.


I see your point. I didn't take it like that tho. Step in his shoes for a second. The shooting himself, the grief he took because of it, being jailed for 2 years more grief he took. He's human man. We all aren't built from the same cloth. Not every athlete is going to act like Reggie White. He got tired of being attacked and responded. Generally when you respond your going to respond with something that's going to be felt by the receiving party. Plax low balled? yes but I didn't take like that.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:28 PM

I don't think Plax deserved what he got. Unlike Vick, he wasn't engaged in a criminal activity. Yes he had a loaded gun on him... but he also had a concealed weapons liscence (albeit from FL and it was expired). He was made an example of, 100%. I know that a lot of us perceive athletes as overpriviledged primaddonnas but we're talking about whisking a guy away from his family for 2 years for accidentally shooting himself in the leg. That's up there with charging someone with attempted murder for a failed suicide attempt.

Jayson Williams deserves to be in jail, not Plax.

Food for thought: Bassy Telfair was stopped in the BX in 2008 for speeding. The cops found a loaded .45 in the car. He plead guilty to criminal possession of a weapon and got 3 years probation.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:21 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 10 September 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think Plax deserved what he got. Unlike Vick, he wasn't engaged in a criminal activity. Yes he had a loaded gun on him... but he also had a concealed weapons liscence (albeit from FL and it was expired). He was made an example of, 100%. I know that a lot of us perceive athletes as overpriviledged primaddonnas but we're talking about whisking a guy away from his family for 2 years for accidentally shooting himself in the leg. That's up there with charging someone with attempted murder for a failed suicide attempt.

Jayson Williams deserves to be in jail, not Plax.

Food for thought: Bassy Telfair was stopped in the BX in 2008 for speeding. The cops found a loaded .45 in the car. He plead guilty to criminal possession of a weapon and got 3 years probation.


Last year, in New York City, nearly 80 percent of the people convicted of a third-degree charge still ended up behind bars, according to the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services. Of those people, 41 percent ended up serving more than one year in jail; 24 percent ended up serving one year in jail; 6 percent less than one year in jail, and 6 percent had a mixture of jail and probation 24 percent only had probation.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:59 PM

Also, Plax turned down a 3 month plea deal, in which he would have only served 2 months with a crap load of community service. It's still his fault he did time.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:51 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 10 September 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think Plax deserved what he got. Unlike Vick, he wasn't engaged in a criminal activity. Yes he had a loaded gun on him... but he also had a concealed weapons liscence (albeit from FL and it was expired). He was made an example of, 100%. I know that a lot of us perceive athletes as overpriviledged primaddonnas but we're talking about whisking a guy away from his family for 2 years for accidentally shooting himself in the leg. That's up there with charging someone with attempted murder for a failed suicide attempt.

Jayson Williams deserves to be in jail, not Plax.

Food for thought: Bassy Telfair was stopped in the BX in 2008 for speeding. The cops found a loaded .45 in the car. He plead guilty to criminal possession of a weapon and got 3 years probation.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:57 PM

I think it's funny how, in America, when someone gets the maximum sentence he or she is "being made an example of." The law allows Judges leeway in determining sentences to adjust punishment based on individual cases.

Plax doesn't get to say "but, but...I only hurt me!!!!" and have his crime dropped to Misdemeanor Jackassery-$100 fine, cash money homie. A gun accidentally being fired in a public area could potentially hurt, or kill, innocent bystanders. The issue isn't that only he was hurt, or that it was an expressly an accident. His decision to illegally carry a gun obviously put others at risk, and he was punished for it.

The fact that he doesn't keep his mouth shut about the incident and appreciate getting a second chance shows that he is a fool. Vick, it seems, appreciates what he has been given by the Eagles. Plaxico thinks he deserves something.

Oh, and having an out of date license is no excuse. An ex-Marine doesn't get to carry around his rifle or fire mortars from his back yard.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:42 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 10 September 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

I think it's funny how, in America, when someone gets the maximum sentence he or she is "being made an example of." The law allows Judges leeway in determining sentences to adjust punishment based on individual cases.

Plax doesn't get to say "but, but...I only hurt me!!!!" and have his crime dropped to Misdemeanor Jackassery-$100 fine, cash money homie. A gun accidentally being fired in a public area could potentially hurt, or kill, innocent bystanders. The issue isn't that only he was hurt, or that it was an expressly an accident. His decision to illegally carry a gun obviously put others at risk, and he was punished for it.

The fact that he doesn't keep his mouth shut about the incident and appreciate getting a second chance shows that he is a fool. Vick, it seems, appreciates what he has been given by the Eagles. Plaxico thinks he deserves something.

Oh, and having an out of date license is no excuse. An ex-Marine doesn't get to carry around his rifle or fire mortars from his back yard.


the problem is the law is contradictory. in your case your saying the action got punished not the result. however if you try to kill someone and don't suceed you get less of a sentence for attemptive murder then you do if you suceed. so you gte punsihed based on the results not the action itself. Same with a DUI you get punished different for driving drunk then you do if you drive drunk and kill someone. action is the same result is different. Plax fucked up by carrying an illegal weopen but had he had a valid gun licence he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble at all or at worse case some little fine for public disrution or somehting
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 08:34 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 10 September 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

Absolutely.


Did you not read what I posted about his punishment?

Seems to me the information doesn't back up the 'made an example of'

Don't bring a loaded gun and let it go off in a public place and you won't be arrested and 'made an example of' anyway.

It's hilarious how Plaxico plays the role of a victim in his situation.
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View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

the problem is the law is contradictory. in your case your saying the action got punished not the result. however if you try to kill someone and don't suceed you get less of a sentence for attemptive murder then you do if you suceed. so you gte punsihed based on the results not the action itself. Same with a DUI you get punished different for driving drunk then you do if you drive drunk and kill someone. action is the same result is different. Plax fucked up by carrying an illegal weopen but had he had a valid gun licence he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble at all or at worse case some little fine for public disrution or somehting


Exactly Right , plus the poltican chose to throw the book at him instead of treating him like any other American with bad papers.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:24 PM

View Postgmany3k, on 10 September 2011 - 11:06 PM, said:

Exactly Right , plus the poltican chose to throw the book at him instead of treating him like any other American with bad papers.


Again, did you not read the statistics I posted above? Or what Rhodes said when Plaxico turned down a lighter plea deal?

I'm confused.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:59 PM

View PostRhodes1991, on 10 September 2011 - 01:30 AM, said:

Plaxico may be an underwear stain, but it doesn't mean you have to even listen to what he says. It's not like anyone is turning to him for moral advice.....right? Just catch some TDs #17, that's all you are being paid to do.



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Posted 10 September 2011 - 11:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

the problem is the law is contradictory. in your case your saying the action got punished not the result. however if you try to kill someone and don't suceed you get less of a sentence for attemptive murder then you do if you suceed. so you gte punsihed based on the results not the action itself. Same with a DUI you get punished different for driving drunk then you do if you drive drunk and kill someone. action is the same result is different. Plax fucked up by carrying an illegal weopen but had he had a valid gun licence he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble at all or at worse case some little fine for public disrution or somehting


There is a difference there. Attempted Murder is an actual charge, and yes, it is "less" of one than an actual murder. But Burress was charged with a count of Reckless Endangerment (and two counts of Illegal Possession). As such, his sentencing is factoring in the fact that someone could have been killed. What you are talking about with the Murder and Attempted Murder is different because those are separate charges.

Here is a quote from his defense lawyer, in relation to their decision to accept a plea bargain:

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"unfortunately, there is no legal defense we can offer,"


His charges amounted to two felonies and a Class A Misdemeanor. These are crimes that can result in multiple sentences, and in this case, Plaxico served two years because he apparently thought going to court would get him worse. It isn't even like he was just flat out sentenced to them, he agreed to it.

Get over it people. Plaxico Burress is a criminal, he served time, and he is still an immature punk.
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 05:44 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 11 September 2011 - 12:57 AM, said:

I think it's funny how, in America, when someone gets the maximum sentence he or she is "being made an example of." The law allows Judges leeway in determining sentences to adjust punishment based on individual cases.

Plax doesn't get to say "but, but...I only hurt me!!!!" and have his crime dropped to Misdemeanor Jackassery-$100 fine, cash money homie. A gun accidentally being fired in a public area could potentially hurt, or kill, innocent bystanders. The issue isn't that only he was hurt, or that it was an expressly an accident. His decision to illegally carry a gun obviously put others at risk, and he was punished for it.

The fact that he doesn't keep his mouth shut about the incident and appreciate getting a second chance shows that he is a fool. Vick, it seems, appreciates what he has been given by the Eagles. Plaxico thinks he deserves something.

Oh, and having an out of date license is no excuse. An ex-Marine doesn't get to carry around his rifle or fire mortars from his back yard.


Agreed that he responded in an immature way. Given that this interview occurred shortly after he was released and prior to him signing for the Jets, hopefully it was just a single case of him letting off steam and that future comments will be far more humble and sensible. It would have been ideal for him to sit down with Vick and even Tony Dungy - even though him and Rex had a minor public spat last season - to help counsel him.

Who needs to carry a gun anyway? It would probably help things if it wasn't a right for people in the US to carry and bear arms, but that's a whole other debate...
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 11:04 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 10 September 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

There is a difference there. Attempted Murder is an actual charge, and yes, it is "less" of one than an actual murder. But Burress was charged with a count of Reckless Endangerment (and two counts of Illegal Possession). As such, his sentencing is factoring in the fact that someone could have been killed. What you are talking about with the Murder and Attempted Murder is different because those are separate charges.

Here is a quote from his defense lawyer, in relation to their decision to accept a plea bargain:



His charges amounted to two felonies and a Class A Misdemeanor. These are crimes that can result in multiple sentences, and in this case, Plaxico served two years because he apparently thought going to court would get him worse. It isn't even like he was just flat out sentenced to them, he agreed to it.

Get over it people. Plaxico Burress is a criminal, he served time, and he is still an immature punk.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 08:19 AM

Just a little food for thought for the people that are saying that the mayor made "an example of" Plax and that he got the book thrown at him........what the hell are you people smoking? I want some. I'm glad Plax is on our squad, but don't give me that BS that he got the book thrown at him. In NY there is a MANDATORY sentence of SEVEN years for a crime involving a gun where the gun is discharged. Plax was offered 3 MONTHS, turned it down and STILL got a deal that anyone not famous would give their left arm for. The only "example" that was made was that money talks if you're a professional athlete. If it was any of us, we would not have been offered a sweet-heart deal and you all know it.

That being said.......I want Plax to continue to do what he did last night. Lay a mother f#$ker out on the field & catch TD passes.
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Posted 16 September 2011 - 11:08 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 September 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

Yeah, you clearly did.

I'll quote it for you.

Burress' response to fans who took pleasure in his pain?

"What are you doing now?" he said. "You still mad at your job? You still angry about your life? 'Cause I'm back living my life and enjoying my family while you're still doing the same thing."

Those fans with shitty jobs who enjoy relaxing on Sundays and watching football before going off to a tough work week are the reason he makes so much money as a criminal. Maybe he should have a little more respect. I never had a problem with him, and I always believe that everyone deserves a second chance, but he just made himself VERY unlikable in my eyes.
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Posted 17 September 2011 - 05:37 PM

Whinig about jail...GTFO.
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