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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 01:06 AM

do you know how many giants have called out coughlin? current like rolle and past like tiki and strahan
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:00 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2011 - 01:06 AM, said:

do you know how many giants have called out coughlin? current like rolle and past like tiki and strahan


Tiki Barber's a joke who is bitter that the team won a SB when he was busy running his mouth and pretending to be the next big journalist. At the end of the say, Coughlin is a good coach and has a ring.

As to Plax, I assume he had a poor father figure. If I was illegally carrying a gun in public, shot myself on accident, I wouldn't get mad that someone said it was "sad and disappointing."

Zero percent chance I am going to be a Burress fan, before this or after this, but I guess I'd be saying pretty well the same about Braylon now, so oh well...
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:00 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 September 2011 - 06:23 PM, said:

His way of getting back? Seriously? Acting immature because others did, doesn't justify anything.

The simple fact that some (most probably) athletes look at the every day average person (me and you) and think we hate our lives because we're not million dollar making, overpaid professional athletes is a f***ing joke. All he see's apparently is the fact that he served jail time and he's come back and nothings changed in his life. He's still making big money and doing his thing.

He's an arrogant, ignorant punk who obviously didn't learn a damn thing while he was away.

Combine that with Jetfan's post he just made and its blatant how big of a punk Plaxico well and truly is. Nothing's changed.


I see your point. I didn't take it like that tho. Step in his shoes for a second. The shooting himself, the grief he took because of it, being jailed for 2 years more grief he took. He's human man. We all aren't built from the same cloth. Not every athlete is going to act like Reggie White. He got tired of being attacked and responded. Generally when you respond your going to respond with something that's going to be felt by the receiving party. Plax low balled? yes but I didn't take like that.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:28 PM

I don't think Plax deserved what he got. Unlike Vick, he wasn't engaged in a criminal activity. Yes he had a loaded gun on him... but he also had a concealed weapons liscence (albeit from FL and it was expired). He was made an example of, 100%. I know that a lot of us perceive athletes as overpriviledged primaddonnas but we're talking about whisking a guy away from his family for 2 years for accidentally shooting himself in the leg. That's up there with charging someone with attempted murder for a failed suicide attempt.

Jayson Williams deserves to be in jail, not Plax.

Food for thought: Bassy Telfair was stopped in the BX in 2008 for speeding. The cops found a loaded .45 in the car. He plead guilty to criminal possession of a weapon and got 3 years probation.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:21 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 10 September 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think Plax deserved what he got. Unlike Vick, he wasn't engaged in a criminal activity. Yes he had a loaded gun on him... but he also had a concealed weapons liscence (albeit from FL and it was expired). He was made an example of, 100%. I know that a lot of us perceive athletes as overpriviledged primaddonnas but we're talking about whisking a guy away from his family for 2 years for accidentally shooting himself in the leg. That's up there with charging someone with attempted murder for a failed suicide attempt.

Jayson Williams deserves to be in jail, not Plax.

Food for thought: Bassy Telfair was stopped in the BX in 2008 for speeding. The cops found a loaded .45 in the car. He plead guilty to criminal possession of a weapon and got 3 years probation.


Last year, in New York City, nearly 80 percent of the people convicted of a third-degree charge still ended up behind bars, according to the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services. Of those people, 41 percent ended up serving more than one year in jail; 24 percent ended up serving one year in jail; 6 percent less than one year in jail, and 6 percent had a mixture of jail and probation 24 percent only had probation.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:59 PM

Also, Plax turned down a 3 month plea deal, in which he would have only served 2 months with a crap load of community service. It's still his fault he did time.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:51 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 10 September 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

I don't think Plax deserved what he got. Unlike Vick, he wasn't engaged in a criminal activity. Yes he had a loaded gun on him... but he also had a concealed weapons liscence (albeit from FL and it was expired). He was made an example of, 100%. I know that a lot of us perceive athletes as overpriviledged primaddonnas but we're talking about whisking a guy away from his family for 2 years for accidentally shooting himself in the leg. That's up there with charging someone with attempted murder for a failed suicide attempt.

Jayson Williams deserves to be in jail, not Plax.

Food for thought: Bassy Telfair was stopped in the BX in 2008 for speeding. The cops found a loaded .45 in the car. He plead guilty to criminal possession of a weapon and got 3 years probation.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 06:57 PM

I think it's funny how, in America, when someone gets the maximum sentence he or she is "being made an example of." The law allows Judges leeway in determining sentences to adjust punishment based on individual cases.

Plax doesn't get to say "but, but...I only hurt me!!!!" and have his crime dropped to Misdemeanor Jackassery-$100 fine, cash money homie. A gun accidentally being fired in a public area could potentially hurt, or kill, innocent bystanders. The issue isn't that only he was hurt, or that it was an expressly an accident. His decision to illegally carry a gun obviously put others at risk, and he was punished for it.

The fact that he doesn't keep his mouth shut about the incident and appreciate getting a second chance shows that he is a fool. Vick, it seems, appreciates what he has been given by the Eagles. Plaxico thinks he deserves something.

Oh, and having an out of date license is no excuse. An ex-Marine doesn't get to carry around his rifle or fire mortars from his back yard.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:42 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 10 September 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

I think it's funny how, in America, when someone gets the maximum sentence he or she is "being made an example of." The law allows Judges leeway in determining sentences to adjust punishment based on individual cases.

Plax doesn't get to say "but, but...I only hurt me!!!!" and have his crime dropped to Misdemeanor Jackassery-$100 fine, cash money homie. A gun accidentally being fired in a public area could potentially hurt, or kill, innocent bystanders. The issue isn't that only he was hurt, or that it was an expressly an accident. His decision to illegally carry a gun obviously put others at risk, and he was punished for it.

The fact that he doesn't keep his mouth shut about the incident and appreciate getting a second chance shows that he is a fool. Vick, it seems, appreciates what he has been given by the Eagles. Plaxico thinks he deserves something.

Oh, and having an out of date license is no excuse. An ex-Marine doesn't get to carry around his rifle or fire mortars from his back yard.


the problem is the law is contradictory. in your case your saying the action got punished not the result. however if you try to kill someone and don't suceed you get less of a sentence for attemptive murder then you do if you suceed. so you gte punsihed based on the results not the action itself. Same with a DUI you get punished different for driving drunk then you do if you drive drunk and kill someone. action is the same result is different. Plax fucked up by carrying an illegal weopen but had he had a valid gun licence he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble at all or at worse case some little fine for public disrution or somehting
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 08:34 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 10 September 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

Absolutely.


Did you not read what I posted about his punishment?

Seems to me the information doesn't back up the 'made an example of'

Don't bring a loaded gun and let it go off in a public place and you won't be arrested and 'made an example of' anyway.

It's hilarious how Plaxico plays the role of a victim in his situation.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:06 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

the problem is the law is contradictory. in your case your saying the action got punished not the result. however if you try to kill someone and don't suceed you get less of a sentence for attemptive murder then you do if you suceed. so you gte punsihed based on the results not the action itself. Same with a DUI you get punished different for driving drunk then you do if you drive drunk and kill someone. action is the same result is different. Plax fucked up by carrying an illegal weopen but had he had a valid gun licence he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble at all or at worse case some little fine for public disrution or somehting


Exactly Right , plus the poltican chose to throw the book at him instead of treating him like any other American with bad papers.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:24 PM

View Postgmany3k, on 10 September 2011 - 11:06 PM, said:

Exactly Right , plus the poltican chose to throw the book at him instead of treating him like any other American with bad papers.


Again, did you not read the statistics I posted above? Or what Rhodes said when Plaxico turned down a lighter plea deal?

I'm confused.
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:59 PM

View PostRhodes1991, on 10 September 2011 - 01:30 AM, said:

Plaxico may be an underwear stain, but it doesn't mean you have to even listen to what he says. It's not like anyone is turning to him for moral advice.....right? Just catch some TDs #17, that's all you are being paid to do.



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Posted 10 September 2011 - 11:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

the problem is the law is contradictory. in your case your saying the action got punished not the result. however if you try to kill someone and don't suceed you get less of a sentence for attemptive murder then you do if you suceed. so you gte punsihed based on the results not the action itself. Same with a DUI you get punished different for driving drunk then you do if you drive drunk and kill someone. action is the same result is different. Plax fucked up by carrying an illegal weopen but had he had a valid gun licence he probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble at all or at worse case some little fine for public disrution or somehting


There is a difference there. Attempted Murder is an actual charge, and yes, it is "less" of one than an actual murder. But Burress was charged with a count of Reckless Endangerment (and two counts of Illegal Possession). As such, his sentencing is factoring in the fact that someone could have been killed. What you are talking about with the Murder and Attempted Murder is different because those are separate charges.

Here is a quote from his defense lawyer, in relation to their decision to accept a plea bargain:

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"unfortunately, there is no legal defense we can offer,"


His charges amounted to two felonies and a Class A Misdemeanor. These are crimes that can result in multiple sentences, and in this case, Plaxico served two years because he apparently thought going to court would get him worse. It isn't even like he was just flat out sentenced to them, he agreed to it.

Get over it people. Plaxico Burress is a criminal, he served time, and he is still an immature punk.
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 05:44 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 11 September 2011 - 12:57 AM, said:

I think it's funny how, in America, when someone gets the maximum sentence he or she is "being made an example of." The law allows Judges leeway in determining sentences to adjust punishment based on individual cases.

Plax doesn't get to say "but, but...I only hurt me!!!!" and have his crime dropped to Misdemeanor Jackassery-$100 fine, cash money homie. A gun accidentally being fired in a public area could potentially hurt, or kill, innocent bystanders. The issue isn't that only he was hurt, or that it was an expressly an accident. His decision to illegally carry a gun obviously put others at risk, and he was punished for it.

The fact that he doesn't keep his mouth shut about the incident and appreciate getting a second chance shows that he is a fool. Vick, it seems, appreciates what he has been given by the Eagles. Plaxico thinks he deserves something.

Oh, and having an out of date license is no excuse. An ex-Marine doesn't get to carry around his rifle or fire mortars from his back yard.


Agreed that he responded in an immature way. Given that this interview occurred shortly after he was released and prior to him signing for the Jets, hopefully it was just a single case of him letting off steam and that future comments will be far more humble and sensible. It would have been ideal for him to sit down with Vick and even Tony Dungy - even though him and Rex had a minor public spat last season - to help counsel him.

Who needs to carry a gun anyway? It would probably help things if it wasn't a right for people in the US to carry and bear arms, but that's a whole other debate...
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 11:04 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 10 September 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

There is a difference there. Attempted Murder is an actual charge, and yes, it is "less" of one than an actual murder. But Burress was charged with a count of Reckless Endangerment (and two counts of Illegal Possession). As such, his sentencing is factoring in the fact that someone could have been killed. What you are talking about with the Murder and Attempted Murder is different because those are separate charges.

Here is a quote from his defense lawyer, in relation to their decision to accept a plea bargain:



His charges amounted to two felonies and a Class A Misdemeanor. These are crimes that can result in multiple sentences, and in this case, Plaxico served two years because he apparently thought going to court would get him worse. It isn't even like he was just flat out sentenced to them, he agreed to it.

Get over it people. Plaxico Burress is a criminal, he served time, and he is still an immature punk.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 08:19 AM

Just a little food for thought for the people that are saying that the mayor made "an example of" Plax and that he got the book thrown at him........what the hell are you people smoking? I want some. I'm glad Plax is on our squad, but don't give me that BS that he got the book thrown at him. In NY there is a MANDATORY sentence of SEVEN years for a crime involving a gun where the gun is discharged. Plax was offered 3 MONTHS, turned it down and STILL got a deal that anyone not famous would give their left arm for. The only "example" that was made was that money talks if you're a professional athlete. If it was any of us, we would not have been offered a sweet-heart deal and you all know it.

That being said.......I want Plax to continue to do what he did last night. Lay a mother f#$ker out on the field & catch TD passes.
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Posted 16 September 2011 - 11:08 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 September 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

Yeah, you clearly did.

I'll quote it for you.

Burress' response to fans who took pleasure in his pain?

"What are you doing now?" he said. "You still mad at your job? You still angry about your life? 'Cause I'm back living my life and enjoying my family while you're still doing the same thing."

Those fans with shitty jobs who enjoy relaxing on Sundays and watching football before going off to a tough work week are the reason he makes so much money as a criminal. Maybe he should have a little more respect. I never had a problem with him, and I always believe that everyone deserves a second chance, but he just made himself VERY unlikable in my eyes.
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Posted 17 September 2011 - 05:37 PM

Whinig about jail...GTFO.
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