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ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
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This Is Why I Love Sanchez

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:11 AM

Last night, down a couple of scores in the 4th, you'd expect to be shitting bricks. I was nervous, but it was a good nervous. I wasn't panicked. I knew that if he had the time, Mark was going to drive the offense down the field. That's the big thing about him. His numbers won't wow you, but when the game is on the line, he's as good as anyone. I kept screaming "It's Tone Time" at the TV.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:18 AM

With time in the pocket he'll shed you. 88.1 passer rating, 336 with 2TD's and 1INT is pretty beast. I wonder how Matty Ice and Josh Freeman did? :hysterical:

Mark can throw a football folks. Give the kid some time to set his feet and he'll deliver the football.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:19 AM

He's not a complete QB yet. Giving the jets as a team. But Sanchez flop on a couple plays. That INT was horrible. Should never threw that pass. He needs to learn to throw the ball up to Plax not zip it in front of him. Plax is not going to out run most DBs. He's 6-5. Use the height. That block punt is what started the fire for the jets. Sanchez was average in my book that night. This was a team win
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:28 AM

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.

Had Schotty had his shit together Mark might have threw for 400+.

If you look on the pick, it initially looked like Lee was playing man, meaning Mark was expecting Lee to follow his man. Lee jammed Keller (I believe) then played in his zone. When I saw it, it was just a really good job by Lee. I knew exactly what Mark was thinking and why he threw it. He expected Lee to follow his man, he didn't, jammed and hovered in that same area (zone) and read Marks eyes. Just a really good defensive play. It was like Mark wasn't being reckless.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:39 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.


That's exactly the change we need. last year in 1st halfs he looked average too if not below average. We need complete games. Second half was pretty good from him. he does look more comfortable than last year.

Couple things that didnt' help him:
1. Our oline looked horrible. That can't help you settle down in the pocket and read defenses
2. Cowboys defense looked very confusing. Even watching from tv was difficult to tell who was coming on blitzes.
3. It's week 1. Still some kinks to work out
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:03 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Sanchez in the 1st half was very average. 2nd half he balled out. 336, 2TDs 1INT 88.1 passer rating is a damn good game. Not bad for a 3rd year QB.

Had Schotty had his shit together Mark might have threw for 400+.

If you look on the pick, it initially looked like Lee was playing man, meaning Mark was expecting Lee to follow his man. Lee jammed Keller (I believe) then played in his zone. When I saw it, it was just a really good job by Lee. I knew exactly what Mark was thinking and why he threw it. He expected Lee to follow his man, he didn't, jammed and hovered in that same area (zone) and read Marks eyes. Just a really good defensive play. It was like Mark was being reckless.


Plus, if Mark's pick was bad, Romo's was worse, which shows every good QB in this league is going to have the odd brain freeze. Mark was far better playing from behind than Ben Roethlisberger was yesterday, too. He just doesn't get flustered back there when having to mount a comeback, which - admittedly - he has had to do a lot given how poor the offense typically is in the first half!
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:15 AM

View Posttriple3s, on 12 September 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:

That's exactly the change we need. last year in 1st halfs he looked average too if not below average. We need complete games. Second half was pretty good from him. he does look more comfortable than last year.

Couple things that didnt' help him:
1. Our oline looked horrible. That can't help you settle down in the pocket and read defenses
2. Cowboys defense looked very confusing. Even watching from tv was difficult to tell who was coming on blitzes.
3. It's week 1. Still some kinks to work out


1. Yes, our O-Line did look overwhelmed. We couldnt run it either.

2. I like Sanchezs poise. I think he looked better, and he didnt throw a pic earlier to a wide open Burress when he saw the linebacker drop right into the passing lane. Still want to see hime throw the ball away on his fumble.

3. Shotty is f***ing horrible....I hate to say it, he is gonna cost us some games this year....AGAIN....Sanchez threw for over 200 yards, but a good OC would have torched a injury ridden Dallas Defense.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:20 AM

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:43 AM

View PostS-Dubb, on 12 September 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

With time in the pocket he'll shed you. 88.1 passer rating, 336 with 2TD's and 1INT is pretty beast. I wonder how Matty Ice and Josh Freeman did? :hysterical:

Mark can throw a football folks. Give the kid some time to set his feet and he'll deliver the football.

And last night he showed that with absolutely no run game and under constant pressure that he can make plays. Schitty came out with a pretty stupid game plan, I did not like him going spread and leaving Hunter 1 on 1 with Ware. Really I am not mad at Hunter, he did his best against a truly great pass rusher.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:46 AM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 11:20 AM, said:

What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.

Jenkins kept coming back in. And 330+ yards is good no matter who you are facing, the Cowboys secondary was banged up but they were bringing a lot of pressure.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:00 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 12 September 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

And last night he showed that with absolutely no run game and under constant pressure that he can make plays. Schitty came out with a pretty stupid game plan, I did not like him going spread and leaving Hunter 1 on 1 with Ware. Really I am not mad at Hunter, he did his best against a truly great pass rusher.


Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:11 AM

Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.


Back to sanchez. He was average. Special team won the game.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:31 AM

View Posttriple3s, on 12 September 2011 - 12:00 PM, said:

Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.

I didn't see that, I saw Ware was on him more often then not. Usually teams will double Ware, but the Jets like to play with 5 linemen which leads to some QB hits when they were doing a lot of blitzes and Ware was dominating.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:57 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.


Seriously!? I hate this crap, when was the last time you can remember a big name free agent RB being worth his new contract? Especially the RB position of all, which is so dependent on the system, offensive line, QB, and is so easily replaceable through the draft.

If Shonn Greene doesn't work out you draft another one...
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 01:08 PM

Reg is telling the hard truth . however everyone saw what had gone on in that game so they will get busy this week for sure . I also think ground and pound is primary and the passing game is a compliment for now. guys we not getting down field on blocks many were standing around watch dallas make plays. that blocked punt was a thing of beauty.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:45 PM

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What some of you are forgetting is that when Sanchez got better, he got better against the back up secondary for the boys. Scandrick was out. And so was the other CB when Plax laid him out. Those were not the starting CBs for the cowboys.


hmmmm that's a tough one to call. Scandrick sucks so I really don't it had anything to do with him being in or out. I just really think we made some really good second half adjustments. Holmes nor Plax caught any balls in the first half really. The pass rush needed to be slowed down so dropping back to pass was difficult. We shored up the pass rush a little better in the second half. No time for Mark early in the game to make plays with Ware all in his ass.

We started to throw double teams at Ware the second half and it fared better for Mark because he started to really get comfortable.

Ware is the baddest pass rusher in the league. He's a freak. Thank God we don't have to play guys of his calibre every week. Hello Jacksonville!!
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:47 PM

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Problem is, Hunter didn't really only get abused by Ware. he got abused by different players on many plays. and not just in the passing game either. Thats a huge concern. Plus its not that he got beat by Ware and company, its how BADLY it looked. If he's going to be our starter, he has to get way better.


I thought he was a lot better then that. He was getting beat like a donkey out there. Spencer, Ware, Oprah it didn't matter. I'm definitely concerned.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

[quote name='reg83ny' date='12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM' timestamp='1315843871' post='327772']
Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.
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Greene wasn't even given a chance to do anything last night Reg. He had a total of 10 rushing attempts with most of them coming at the DUMBEST of times. Look at the breakdown. Schitty barely called any run plays in the first half. No back is going to find success when you'r not even attempting to wear out the DL. Schitty got FAR away from the ground and pound that this team has been known for. There was no balance. If we could actually find a balance, it would be nice and I think Greene could produce. This team could be scary if there was a healthy balance.

Sanchez's numbers were average partially because of lousy play calling and the Defense knowing that we were passing before the ball was snapped.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:18 PM

[quote name='FlyHiJets' date='12 September 2011 - 01:39 PM' timestamp='1315859999' post='327795']

View Postreg83ny, on 12 September 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

Sanchez didn't win this game period. We don't have a running game with Greene. LT coming in opened the offense. Greene might end up being a dissapointment. I hate to look ahead this early but whenever Chris Johnson becomes free and we Know the Titans are cheap, The jets should throw the checkbook at him like they tried to do with Nnamdi.
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Greene wasn't even given a chance to do anything last night Reg. He had a total of 10 rushing attempts with most of them coming at the DUMBEST of times. Look at the breakdown. Schitty barely called any run plays in the first half. No back is going to find success when you'r not even attempting to wear out the DL. Schitty got FAR away from the ground and pound that this team has been known for. There was no balance. If we could actually find a balance, it would be nice and I think Greene could produce. This team could be scary if there was a healthy balance.

Sanchez's numbers were average partially because of lousy play calling and the Defense knowing that we were passing before the ball was snapped.


in all fairness dallas front 7 is beast and their secondary was banged up and beatable. throwing 45 times and rushing 15 was the right balance against them
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 05:04 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 12 September 2011 - 05:18 PM, said:

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in all fairness dallas front 7 is beast and their secondary was banged up and beatable. throwing 45 times and rushing 15 was the right balance against them


I agree that we should have passed more than rushed against a beat up secondary but 45-15 is just too lopsided. Greene never got the chance to get going so our run game went absolutely nowhere. What is missed in all of this is that our run D did a good job of not allowing 100 yards rushing against us again.
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